Biixi and Kaahin blundering hither and thither against each other in their own ineptitude.

[Tillamook]

 

First it was Buurmadow and now  Suldaan Maxamed is being jailed by Biixi & Co. 

It seems Somaliland has become a full fledged dictatorship overnight...tsk tsk tsk

[galbeedi]

Tilamook,

"Hither and thither",  I guess some of us need a dictionary to understand your title.

Buurmadow nabad buu ku baaqay ayaa lagu xidhay.

[galbeedi]

[galbeedi]

It looks fake, just like the last one.

 

 

[Tallaabo]

4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

It looks fake, just like the last one.

 

 

Somalis and their funny propaganda!!! 

[Old_Observer]

This is a politically debilitating sickness. It had paralyzed and lost credibility even for promising opposition in Ethiopia for past 20 years.

When you consider the culture and faith of the Somali people, this culture is very destructive.

The days of two nomads going opposite direction exchanging real information of what is ahead for each one of them, where one can find water, the nearest village....is falling apart. The age of facebook.

[Old_Observer]

21 hours ago, Ducale said:

Somaliland:  Liberated from the masiixi late dictator.  Created by Somali.

Puntland:  build on the suffering and massacres of somali. Created by Ethiopia. 

Ma iyagaaba isku meel jooga.

 

Puntland was the most advanced society of any Somali territory before europeans arrived. Not just a sultanate, had a kingdom with standing army, beaurocracy and navy. Fair and open tax collection and services.

All the above 130 years before the Tigray arrived. That history is why that part of Somalia was able to constitute regional government relatively easily.

Its is not fair or true to make Puntland creation of Ethiopia.

 

[Che -Guevara]

1 hour ago, Ducale said:

 

I expected nothing less.  Puntland broke the back of somalia with their support and actively assisting ethiopia in their genocides.  If somalia was the plantation puntland would be the house-niggro...."are we sick masser"?

You mean to tell us SNM launching attacks from Ethiopia and seeking their support was not house negro behavior, not to renditioning poor Somalis from Somali Galbeed?

[Che -Guevara]

14 minutes ago, Ducale said:

 SNM fought their war without foreign assistance (let alone ethiopia) and went on to build a nation from the ground up, with the cooperation of all  the clans in somaliland. The idea of peaceful reconciliation with reeraha kalee somaliland daga iyo wanaaga ku jira darisnimada was not an ethiopian import. 

LOL, You are joker. To say SNM didn't receive Ethiopia's support is simply silly. You mean to tell us SNM was operating within Somalia from one day? Or its leadership did relocated to the North soon after? They needed a base of operation, Ethiopia was it. They operated out of camps and they kicked out of out Ethiopia and relocated only after the Barre-Mengistue agreement. If you want to going to lie, at least, write something believable.

[Che -Guevara]

4 minutes ago, Ducale said:

 

 

No one is denying snm had a base in ethiopia. 

 

SNM did everything with Ethiopia's blessings, with bases, training, etc. You have a twisted sense of the word support means. As for Puntland, it came into being with out Ethiopia's support and SSDF, unfortunately, like all other "Somali" rebels, they launched attacks with the enemy's blessings.

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, Ducale said:

Hadalku shushub'bu kuugu dhacaa.

 

No one is denying snm had a base in ethiopia. 

But did they fight alongside the snm? No.

Did they (snm) act as guide for the ethios to commit genocide and untold suffering for clan interest? No. 

Who liberated the north? Not ethiopia. 

Who called for clan reconciliation? Not ethiopia. 

Who sacrificed and died for somaliland? Not ethiopia.

 

Whatever innocent blood was shed wrongfully and unjustly, was done by somali. Not ethiopians whos destruction of somalia opened an opportunity for me to build a nation. I did that all on my own.

Ducale,

From the Ethiopian side during Mengistu everything is documented. No need to go to propaganda and falsehoods.

Do you know that the most preferred of the rebels by Ethiopia was USC and Aidiid in particular?

Do you know that SSDF was most nationalist if that means against Ethiopia?

Do you know how many years A. Yusuf spent in Mengistu jail because he told Ethiopians to remove their flag from territory he thought was Somalian side of the border?

As for 2006 Every single one of the clans, warlords, MPs had agreed they need outside military help. Yemen, Djibouti, Sudan and Ethiopia were selected for cultural affinity, neutrality, and volunteering to use their own money that way there is no UN or AU to interfere for other countries.

If Mogadishu can live happily with Uganda, but not Yemen, Djibouti or Sudan that is their choice. Ethiopia was not going to go further than bordering regions.

Based on that Yemen was first country to reactivate its embassy even when Mogadishu was not secured.

 

[Old_Observer]

23 minutes ago, Ducale said:

 

OO

 

Lots of Somali were imprisoned by Ethiopia including the first Somaliland president.

Nationalism based on a selfish subclan interest is not nationalism. 

One cannot claim to be fighting for somalinimo defined and based on their own clan interest. 

It's the story that keep repeating itself.

 

PS...you need differentiate when Ethiopia is mentioned as the object hatred, and when it's been used to demonstrate a point that highlight certain hypocrisy.

 

I understand where you are coming from and your point you want to make. Its all about Somalis outside of Ethiopia.

What I don't like and is becoming common among Somalis is that, before highlighting the wrong per se and per its own merit, there is a habit of labelling as UAE stooge, Ethiopia stooge, Qatar Stooge, Uganda Stooge, Kenya stooge...

Nothing serious can be addressed until Somalis start blaming or praising each other by the very issues that confronts all wherever we are. Not to the extent in Somalia and others, but there is a small number of Somalis in kililka who copied this culture and say that kililka is Tigray and they happen to be water carriers for the anti Somali part of  Oromo.

[Old_Observer]

3 hours ago, Ducale said:

We are somali. Everything will be addressed in that chaos of blaming and labelling. Cause nothing serious can really be addressed with the Tigaray elephant in the room. 

 

And now you will have the Oromo elephant in the room. lol

I hear you as you said its everywhere even America its all catch phrases and labelling.