Saalax Posted May 10, 2018 You guys are naive. The Bohol community will kill even the so-called army of Somaliland if they get a little hint that they are siding with the other community (not to mention we have our own battalions in the army stationed in Sool whom we will pull out in such scenario and they will fight alongside us). It will be like pouring more fuel to the fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted May 11, 2018 Keep clan names out of SOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted May 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Saalax said: You guys are naive. The Bohol community will kill even the so-called army of Somaliland if they get a little hint that they are siding with the other community (not to mention we have our own battalions in the army stationed in Sool whom we will pull out in such scenario and they will fight alongside us). It will be like pouring more fuel to the fire. So, what in your view, should be the solution to these recurring skirmishes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted May 11, 2018 In 1960s, Abdiqasim Salad Hassan BOY 's father Salad Boy and few of Other Cayr community leaders were under community arrest in Laasqoray, exciled ,by Somali gov, the aim was to resolve same issue we have here, continious inter clan fighting The community leaders of those fighting must be arrested. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted May 11, 2018 Skirmishes like this happen under any kind of government, in any province or country all over the world. Be it latin America, Euro asia, Asia, Africa and even in Europe. Villages going at each other. The initial thing can be over water well, river, forest..then becomes revenge killings then off proportion. Salaax, You seem to be bragging of the colonel, but if he did what you posted, he did wrong. All he could have said and done was "I have too many local boys in my unit who can get involved, I am staying in camp/baracks, bring other units" These people have to live in that land tomorrow, not by choice but by neighbor and brother which is gift of nature not your making. Stocking fire, bragging, may be easy on keyboard, but consequences are always bad. Do you know this colonel no matter how good in other ways, cannot be commander of boys from other communities, cannot be defence minister, cannot be a front commander..career closed is done. I am not exagerating. If an officer in kililka did what you described, he would rot in jail. You wear the uniform to serve and protect the people and constitution of kililka, and that includes even against your own village if need be and there is no other way to handle the situation. Any other attitude is anarchy and anarchy has never built society or nations anywhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Tillamook said: So, what in your view, should be the solution to these recurring skirmishes? The Jeegaan admin simply needs to leave the entire area since they do nothing but always try to side with the other side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 11, 2018 oodweyne smell the coffee. There is no government. As we speak Caare took his boys out of the army and set up base in Dararweyne. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted May 11, 2018 Is Muuse going to arrest Caarre? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Holac said: Is Muuse going to arrest Caarre? He doesn't dare. He isn't part of the army now anyway. He took his boys with him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 11, 2018 Nonsense. Bohol boys soldiers only belong to the clan. Somaliland is not a "nation". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted May 11, 2018 maybe it is time for Amisom deployed there, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted May 12, 2018 OOdweyne doesn't even understand how serious the issue is. The Jeegaan group supported by the army "swore six times " to adare to the agreement that was reached by the elders, and they broke the oath six times. It all started around 2014, when an oil exploration group showed up in Bohol without the consent of the people. The company called Genel was chased out by the locals. There might be some minerals and other resources in Bohol area and certain people want to remove the locals which is impossible. Also, it is the policy of BIIxi and company to make the perceived animosity between these community permanent.The Biixi clan of Sacad Muuse doesn't even have a real district in Somaliland to flex any tribal muscle. Even the so called Gabiley district with Wajaale, Kalbaydh and others are shared with Awdalites, Akisho, Madigaan and others. If things get ugly, they can not even leave 26 june district and north of Gabiley. There is another war brewing in Wajaale region after Biixi tried to take some farms belonging to the Dila and Jibraacin community. OOdweyne stop acting like Baghdad Bob of Iraq and try to address the real problems which has cost the lives of many people. Some us had seen this plot before. When the Biixi community could not take Ceel Berdaale by war or legal means, military men from the Biixi community put checkpoints in the highway at night and massacred the Awdal travelers. It was one of the major reasons the Awdal community rebelled against Siilaanyo after the election. They do these things for power and business. The more the institutions break down the more people would rely to their tribe. Ciidanka iyo dadkuba waa qabaa'il. Beel walbana ciidankeeda way qaadan haddii sidaan wax laga bedeli waayo. Most rebellions are started by a disgruntled officer. With 300 loyal men, no can catch this man or defeat him in the mountainous Sanaag. Stop the propaganda and find solutions. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted May 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Saalax said: The Jeegaan admin simply needs to leave the entire area since they do nothing but always try to side with the other side. I agree... the Jeegaan miscreants should leave the area and refrain from politicizing this issue. In fact, this dispute should have remained within the purview of the clan elders and Issims in the first place. After-all, this is nothing more than a familial disagreement which is very common in Somalia—and the whole reason why we Somalis have Issimo and Cuqaal is for this very purpose. But then again, trust Muuse Ooyaye and his Jeegan minions to complicate, politicize, and mismanagement the simplest of familial tiffs. Muuse Ooyaye should stop locking up and harassing clan elders. He should show clan elders the respect they deserve and allow them to fulfill their traditional duties of intervening in such petty tribal quarrels. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted May 12, 2018 Intii dhimatay allaha u naxariisto Mar haddii ciidankii ay qaranka ku sheegayeen isku qabiil yahay, way adag tahay inay geel jire isku qabiila xal waara dhex dhigaan sababtoo ah ciiddan sax ah, afka kama hadlo wuu gacan hadlaa wuxuuna ku dhaartaa inuu sharciga u dhinto. Qabiilku wuxuu u qaybsamaa jilib iyo jufo magaca qarrana ma qaadan karaan hadday si kasta maro cagaaran u huwadaan, waana magac ay si ba'an u bahdishay Snm meelna uguga dhacday. Xalka ugu dhaw aragtidayda waa in dawladaynta beentaa layska daayo, oo odayaasha shaqadooda loo daayo, aakhirka ayagaa heshiin marka geellu guro roobkuna yaraado, haddii kale dhaqaalo badan yaa ku bixi wuxuuna u noqon karaan shidaal dagaalka sii wada. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites