Old_Observer Posted May 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Oodweyne said: This is really a "crucial argument" the Somali peninsula would have to confront it soon. Or else we will be forever in constant-loop of always one harshly dry season away from total disaster. Well everybody worries of the Somali culture, the Somali charcter disappearing with the nomad economic base of it, but this attitusde is most dangerous. Only Russia and Canada plus some Euro Asean countries can afford to have nomads in this century. draught is main threat, but the population explosion is even a bigger threat for tomorrow. Two things will make you to be solidly and unflenchingly a supporter of settling 90% of the nomads in the next decade or so. 1. I do not have a link to it, but there is a clip interview with a Xalimo that in 5 years went from multi millionaire of camels and goats to someone living in camp and under USAID program. 2. Two individual nomads fought over a water well, each came with close families and then extended families. It became so big of a fight only the Liyu can manage. It took so many hours and hours of meetings and resolutions, by elders, government officials, prominent persons including from the university to resolve this incident completely. Imagine how many incidents happen every year and some of them are cross borders with other territories and countries. These two issues will convince Oodweyne right away to call the Somali next generation to be digital nomads, not just farmers or textile workers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted May 10, 2018 14 hours ago, Oodweyne said: This I agree with you, wholeheartedly. But still I am not sure how we can preserved our culture, which is deeply infused and embedded with a nomadic way of life whilst at the same time moving on from that mode of living (even with scarcity) into farming form of living and agrarian mode of production of livelihood. We must find the way to separate the nomadic cultural norms, or its normative "acculturation" (very ugly word) in which nomadic life is serially attached to it, from the livelihood in which our folks must now strike forward to since this nomadic form of economical production is not sustainable any longer for a various host of other reasons. Hence, if say, these nomadic communities move on into farming form of livelihood production, then they must find the means to keep their version of "nomadic culture" along the way. And I am not sure the two can be had together. Or can even go in hand-to-hand sort of being "synthesized" together in a "socially-aware" way, or the least "culturally-disruptive" (as it were) Which means it's either that nomadic culture with its problems and its delight (all had it together in the wilderness and even in the same year); and its way of seeing the world being consigned to the dustbin of history. And then becoming a settled and farming community for the sake of these community's livelihood form of production. Or it's going to be living ever so precariously with this mode of nomadic lifestyle and its livelihood mode, with all the hit-and-misses of a chance there is from it, given that they will be depending on the rain seasons for a living. This is really a "crucial argument" the Somali peninsula would have to confront it soon. Or else we will be forever in constant-loop of always one harshly dry season away from total disaster. 100% agree with you, while going forward the cultural identity must be protected, Else what is the use of new way of life, if you have no idea who you are. Polynesians did amazing things, almost impossible to be true by travelling 1000s of Miles by sea, when you look back, it is amazing how they mastered the art of navigation at sea before everyone else and forgot about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, maakhiri1 said: 100% agree with you, while going forward the cultural identity must be protected, Else what is the use of new way of life, if you have no idea who you are. maakhiri, That is everybody's concern especially the character of not being easily victimized, not being easily enslaved, the free and brave culture and character, but what is the solution. The amount of conflict among nomads is terrible and complete waste of life and then time and resource to reconcile and make some solutions. No land that can recover some years, to be protected and then next years protect another area. Simple example, in the old days even when nomads were less you needed to strictly single file camels when traveling. Now a lot of nomads don't care and are travelling and driving camels in 3-4 columns. Rest assured grass will not grow it will become road. Some nomads do not move animals until the treee leaves are just wiped clean and left dead wood treses hard to recover even with good rain..etc. There is no alternative now to settling a big portion of nomads, in some areas even forcing them, but you need to make lakes close by to new villages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted May 11, 2018 On 5/9/2018 at 5:50 AM, Che -Guevara said: There's no point to a culture that's stagnant or lacks imagination. One must evolve or be condemned to irrelevance. Our culture is not the cause of our lack of development: we’re merely trying to figure out the way forward from nearly a century of colonialism, post-colonialism and their myriad aftershocks. Tolstoy once said, “The two most powerful warriors are patience and time.”... warriors our post-independence generations lack, but have no choice but to accept it for what it is. Somalis shall persevere and overcome all the seemingly insurmountable hurdles(mostly of our own making) that prevent us from achieving a united, prosperous and functional modern nation— and state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites