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Naden Says, "Girls are outshining boys in many educational fronts and the results are showing at the college level."

 

 

So true, now do I hear affirmative actions for boys. Wait, they already have in some schools. I wonder if that is legal?

 

Seeker-I guess you gain some , lose some.

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Seeker, Your 8 year old sister is dieting? That's seriously disturbing.

 

About Rennaisance standards of beauty--most American women weight at least as much if not more than the Reubenesque models of the 17th century. But then those models were unrealistically heavy for women of the 17th century. I think beauty is simply whatever takes effort and money at any one point in time. That's why the Chinese bound little girls' feet, why Middle Easterners favor restrictive clothing, why being pale was fashionable in Europe (because it meant you didn't do any menial labor that would give you a tan), but now it's being tanned that's sexy (because you can afford a holiday in the sun).

 

Che's right. You gain some, you lose some. I just think the gains far outweight the losses overall.

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*****exposure of the flash***

" woman are seen as an object, not heard, her will is not hear own to control, more likely to be raped, dehumanised and not seen as a factor in this world". Am sorry do u even hear ureself what a load of rubbish i assure u the fact that woman are seen as an object is not down to the fact of adverts,its been happening through out the centuries, as for our will am sure i have mine and i am in sole possession of it, as for woman being beaten and raped am sorry does NO MEAN YES even if a woman is naked does not convey a man the right to rape a woman, man beat and rape woman for other sick issues not because those advert, if such is the case that there is a strong link between rape and naked woman what does that say about man? that they cant control themselvz there weak? sexual pervz? am sorry my take in those adverts is choice some woman will choose to express themselvz as they see fit isnt that what the woman libertine fought for? freedom of choice and expression, anyway why ist its always a man who will grace us with his views on woman and there proper conduct in society so we can fit in? i assure u i am not effected by those woman because i am a firm believer that everywoman is a sole guardian of her virtue and and she can choose when to forfeit them, i do have to remaind u that we are in a state where virtue is overrated but that does not mean woman like I and millions out there are dehumanised by those adverts to tell u the truth i make haste to buy those product does that mean a man is allowed to rape and beat me also? for one am looking forward to the xmas Diet cola advert with the sexy man and the CK boxers adverts does that mean i want to run and beat man, rape them or that dehumanises them NO. Woman have been made secondary class citizens not by those adverts but by the chains that have been forged upon us from the day the doctor declared that a daughter has been born.

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anyway why ist its always a man who will grace us with his views on woman and there proper conduct in society

LoooL@Cynic, Would you prefer if it was coming from 800 pound silver back.

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SeeKer   

Originally posted by cynical lady:

*****exposure of the flash***

" woman are seen as an object, not heard, her will is not hear own to control, more likely to be raped, dehumanised and not seen as a factor in this world". Am sorry do u even hear ureself what a load of rubbish i assure u the fact that woman are seen as an object is not down to the fact of adverts,its been happening through out the centuries, as for our will am sure i have mine and i am in sole possession of it, as for woman being beaten and raped am sorry does NO MEAN YES even if a woman is naked does not convey a man the right to rape a woman, man beat and rape woman for other sick issues not because those advert, if such is the case that there is a strong link between rape and naked woman what does that say about man? that they cant control themselvz there weak? sexual pervz? am sorry my take in those adverts is choice some woman will choose to express themselvz as they see fit isnt that what the woman libertine fought for? freedom of choice and expression, anyway why ist its always a man who will grace us with his views on woman and there proper conduct in society so we can fit in? i assure u i am not effected by those woman because i am a firm believer that everywoman is a sole guardian of her virtue and and she can choose when to forfeit them, i do have to remaind u that we are in a state where virtue is overrated but that does not mean woman like I and millions out there are dehumanised by those adverts to tell u the truth i make haste to buy those product does that mean a man is allowed to rape and beat me also? for one am looking forward to the xmas Diet cola advert with the sexy man and the CK boxers adverts does that mean i want to run and beat man, rape them or that dehumanises them NO. Woman have been made secondary class citizens not by those adverts but by the chains that have been forged upon us from the day the doctor declared that a daughter has been born.

I suggest you reread the beginning of the post and concentrate on the context I placed the hypersexualizing........to reiterate I said ,"in the ad world, a woman...." smile.gif

 

As for what you just wrote, I would say you have some deep seated issues with men ;)

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blah blah blah..! i guess we all assume that we this american family now!! when did we enter that ocean... aye!

 

but then again! i would love to see tall skinny blk xalimo with no chunk in the trunk! amiin...!

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I remember reading somewhere not long ago that most young girls in the UK aspire to becoming glamour girls because of the exposure and glamorizing of sl**ts get in the media.

 

I believe that ads, MTV and porn all contribute to the formation of disrespectful ideas about women and womanhood. A few years ago, during the Abu Guraib photo scandal,

Some very disturbing image of what was said to be the abuse faced by Iraqi female prisoners (use your imagination!) was doing the rounds on the net. This was obviously met with great anger from many of those who have seen it. However, it soon emerged that those weren't real photos but rather excerpts of porn videos. There’s actually whole genre that caters for such fetishes. What I question is, why would any one produce such inhumane films and call it entertainment and can a country that legalizes the production of such videos and call itself civilized?

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