The Nomad: From top class to near bottom class in 3 centuries. What a shock?

[Old_Observer]

Until the 16-17 century the Nomad was among the highest class of all classes around the world. The banker class among the most despised is now most respected, most feared class. The Nomad is now a curiosity and of interest to those who think of surviving a nuclear war and the likes.

The Nomad was completely mobile, his home, his wife, his children, his food everything was mobile. Sometimes his whole clan empire was mobile. The safest and sure way to survive even calamities where the farmer a much lower class than the Nomad was sitting duck to every braveheart.

Then as population grew and grew, the Nomad started see risks and started submitting to some Ugas, Garaad, Sultan, Boqor..to protect his grazing lands. Then started the downfall. The Ugas or Garaad doesn't have to do any work, but gets a camel a year from every nomad. If he wanted to increase his wealth the Garaad simply took the next lands by cheating and false promises, aranged intermarriages, or failing all that simply war.

From Russia to Somalia, the Nomad is simply lost trying to be nomad culture living in high rises (prisons of municipality rules for everything). There is no way the Nomad can fully be comfortable and continue the culture in the metropolitan way of life where everything is up side down and inside out.

Imagine a Nomad who considers children as his insurance for old age and also gurantee of his continuity forced to accept LBGTPTGS...

Imagine a nomad who considers humiliation to be told by someone other than family to do anything has to listen and obey Abdi Iley on where to live, what to do in life, send his children both male and female to school, having woman as minister or commander of armies/police...funny for us, but real shocking.

 

Russia and to some degree Canada will sustain Nomads for longer, they have land and some protection, where as among the Somali and Ethiopia the Nomad is a disappearing class.

 

The politics in Northern Somalia and Ethiopia is more of settled farmer led, but in many parts of Ethiopia and Somalia the Nomad still has influence.

[Old_Observer]

This happens to all classes in human history, but to see in one generation such change is unique, usually these things take centuries.

 

Examples of shock to individuals, but reflection of society.

A Somali Nomad class being arrested by a woman from a hunter gatherer class. The shock on the face is sad but priceless

An Amhara who lived 3 generations in Oromia, being arrested in Oromia and demanding that he be sopken in Amharic at an Oromia police station. sad but priceless.

These two as soon as out of the prison, only dream and effort is bring down the system by any means. Angry, dispondent, negative and going back even on things they had accepted.

 

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

I think you just described the White, Protestant, Anglo-Saxon man. There are not there yet but they are already developing victim mentality as America becomes majority-minority nation and power and resources are beginning to change hands.

Of course, the first bad guys are the Jews, followed by the blacks who are taking the precious white women.

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said:

I think you just described the White, Protestant, Anglo-Saxon man

Not really. You see the shocked Somali was shocked by fellow Somali, but different class in the past and even to the present. The Shock of the Amhara was frm the place and name of Oromos in the past when he was growing up.

The White protestant Anglo saxon is still highest group, but can see the issues you pointed for the long term. It will still take a century or more, before the Anglo Saxon joins the Franks or Portuguese.

 

 

[Old_Observer]

24 minutes ago, Ducale said:

OO, are you saying Ethiopia is one of those "unique countries"  that achieved or on their way to achieving that change within a generation? The TPLF (precipitated) brought about a change that was bound to happen. 

No my friend, far from it.

Abdi Iley before he publicly spoke of the intermarriage between Somalis of different classes or jobs in the past, he discussed it with two groups of people:

The elders. He asked the elders are these discriminated folks Somalis? They had no option but to say yes and confirm. Next he asked them is there a law written or unwritten that should prevent Somalis from intermixing? Will you support me if I took certain steps in combating this discrimination within Somalis? Here they separated. Some said is good idea you stick your neck we will support you. Some said its good idea, but I can only promise you I will never criticize you, but will never speak publicly supporting you.

Religious leaders: Is there anything in Islam that would prevent intermarriage among same Ethnic, same language and all Moslems? They said No. Will you support me in encouraging Somalis to be tolerant to each others past prejudices? Most said yes even publicly speaking.

 

You are right its about time, but is not common for a politician to have courage to do for first time publicly and to a degree very smoothly something that would make any average politician hide.

 

As for Tigray they have similar other issues, but not to this degree. Since they come from Society which for most part is settled farmers they have been through this long time ago, but do not marry to iron workers for example, but intermarriage between Moslem and Christian is quite tolerated with them.

When Al Turabi of Sudan stuck his name delaring that any peoples of the book can intermarry. There is nothing prohibiting it in any of the books, he was looked at as alien.

[galbeedi]

On ‎2018‎-‎04‎-‎28 at 11:17 AM, Old_Observer said:

The politics in Northern Somalia and Ethiopia is more of settled farmer led, but in many parts of Ethiopia and Somalia the Nomad still has influence.

This picture might answer your wrong analysis of the north.

 

[galbeedi]

He is probably buying camels and land.

 

[Old_Observer]

44 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

This picture might answer your wrong analysis of the north.

 

Thanks galbeedi,

The sight of the camels is beautiful have saved the video. Will cut out the politicians later.

He was maybe an attempt milking for political advertisment.

 

[galbeedi]

 Traditionally, Muuse Biixi's family are  farmers and traders, yet he want to look like a tough nomad.