Ms DD Posted March 12, 2007 ^^Oh the horror of being called a liberal! Xiinfiinin There is a man who understand where i was coming from. We still do have hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caano Geel Posted March 12, 2007 Originally posted by xiinfaniin: so you think exposing young children to homosexuality would instill tolerance in them? I think it's inappropriate--to say the least! Dude, we're not talking about a visit to your local gays-r-us for a tutorial.. so i hardly see how reading a story is damaging. Further when has hiding it actually made a difference. And what exactly is inappropriate about some one else living their life in isolation of yours? .. And don't come back with quotes, you or I don't create people nor judge them in the end Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalaf Posted March 12, 2007 Subxaana malika qudus @ tolerance shit....hang em high........me and my eldest sister 18 went to public schools, much worse now...my two younger sisters are in islamic schools ....haram alayk to be in these kufar schools..... daytime tv, movies thanks to jewish media have fags and they "beautify" dis haraam as Quran says, no tv in our house, Islam islam islam only and we will move to muslim lands inshallah........my freshmen english class last year i dropped...the professor was a fagget, the paper he used as an example was about him and how he "came out of closet"...naclatul alayak fagget i dont want hear dat shit....i work at IT lab i see dem all time and also catch cats watching porn dis world is going to hell......to the muslims if u dont hate this in your heart and talk about "tolerance" acceptance of differences then can u call urself true muslims? u have disease in your hearts walaa..... Edit: cambraa walaalshiis "liberal"? there is no such thing as liberal muslim, u either a Muslim or not....if u agree to the ways of kufar and dont hate their ways as muslim, then u are not of the sunnah of the nabi scw period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caano Geel Posted March 12, 2007 khalaf, wlaahi you made me crack up laughing .. yep, you hang them first, and let us know when you create the 'disease free land' so i can avoid it btw working in IT i see, did you know that Alan Turing the father of the machine whose 60hz glow your starring at was gay? lordy how can you touch the keyboard now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted March 12, 2007 State schools impart secular values. Muslims parents send their children knowing that they will be exposed to many unIslamic teachings and values. It's upto you to either take your child out of these schools or to counter the miseducation that they recieve. Your parents must have done well because there are Muslims who not only tolerate but defend gay rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalaf Posted March 12, 2007 ^^^Brah i am Muslim, there are many things in society that are against my creed that i have no power to change....but i hate it with a passion, including this disease in which u want to "tolerate" btw bet the jews are behind this na mean.....but it seems u and others here dont hate it n will "accept" it....marka can u call yourself a muslim if u dont hate these ills? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caano Geel Posted March 12, 2007 kimiya Alxamdulilah They did well. i'm proud of them, and they are of me and I will also defend your rights. Its sad that you see your rights as human being to be a special case Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caano Geel Posted March 12, 2007 Khalaf: have you ever actually met a jew? and how come you typing at that invention of the gays again .. doesn't it make you feel dirty .. i think you should go and cleanse your self right away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted March 12, 2007 Originally posted by Caano Geel: quote:Originally posted by xiinfaniin: so you think exposing young children to homosexuality would instill tolerance in them? I think it's inappropriate--to say the least! Dude, we're not talking about a visit to your local gays-r-us for a tutorial.. so i hardly see how reading a story is damaging. Further when has hiding it actually made a difference. And what exactly is inappropriate about some one else living their life in isolation of yours? .. And don't come back with quotes, you or I don't create people nor judge them in the end You’re missing the point yaa camel-rider! To oppose introducing extreme concepts of sexual styles to young children in their tender age is not akin to objecting other people’s decision to live their life in isolation! Second, hiding such practices, I can argue, is always healthier than exposing them to the society even if you’re confident that you can refute and expose their wickedness. But it’s quite amazing how you happen to be on the wrong side of the fence and yet seem to be content with your folly adeer. Here you are arguing (blame you are inarticulacy if it’s not so) for young children being exposed to homosexuality! [edit]Cambarro, i think cg is not serious here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalaf Posted March 12, 2007 ^^Answer my question sxb, can u call yourself a muslim if u dont mind these harams?.......i have nothing against jews as ppl, my favorite teacher HS math teacher was jewish n a cool cat.....but i know they control all the media and the media is what shapes ppl minds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted March 12, 2007 cambaro sister we are in a country where there is so many Kufars where they have no morals. They dont want to draw the line as to whats a family? now they want to convence everyone two men/two women can adapt kids and become a nuclear family? how absurd is that? so I wouldnt be surprised that they want younger kids to be brainwashed and see homosexual as something acceptable, given they have to work hard to implement their disgusting morals on the younger generations. which is why I would advice never raise yr kids down here, you are simply taking a chance. May allah guide us. wa salaam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted March 12, 2007 Originally posted by Caano Geel: kimiya Alxamdulilah They did well. i'm proud of them, and they are of me and I will also defend your rights also. Its sad that you see your rights as human being to be a special case LOL! I can annoyingly scream for my own rights, which includes my opinions on homosexuality. I don't need the defense of others. Coincidentally, I've had gay colleagues, they were very aware of my religious views and accepted it. Whereas, I maintain what isn't my business, isn't my concern attitude. They are free to do whatever their free will and the law of the land allows them to do. As long as they keep it out of my face and faith. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted March 12, 2007 Children are exposed to stories in order to teach them a variety of things and to help model their behaviour. Appropriate actions, basic morals(ie. kindness, honesty), working hard at what you desire etc etc. This particular story is designed to teach that the prince choosing another man is appropriate and right. Given the differences in religion and cultural mores of the diverse society we live in - that is not an appropriate lesson to be teaching young children. This a question of appropriateness rather than a denial of gay rights or gay existence. The other comment of simply remove your kids from the school strikes me as half assed - am I, as a parent, not a relevant constituentcy that a school should listen to my concerns and objections? Additionally, public schools are meant to serve the public - and Muslims and others of faith are part of the public. Why should their concerns give way to this clear gay indoctrination? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caano Geel Posted March 12, 2007 xiin saaxiib, please tell me how saying i've closed my eyes and its not there makes a difference or even better where its made a difference. Its a story book, where jack has two mothers.. my child knows jacks has two mothers, so i'm meant to infer that my child will want to be in same sex relationship? xiin " you happen to be on the wrong side of the fence" I'm sure you meant it as a pun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted March 12, 2007 caano geel the whole point is the fact that your child at such a young age is being exposed to the notion that "homosexuality" is NORMAL. your child is attaining a wrong definition for the concept family?? so yes in the long run your child might actually want to be in the same sex relationship, after all he/she doesnt even know what family is??? salaams p.s. I think the solution would be either send your child to Islamic school, and make sure u are always available to set them right. Or, raise them in muslim country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites