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Pro-Gay books for 5 year olds?

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".. except for the Intersex folks ofcourse that is nature.. "

Does that mean nature is only that which has a physical manifestation that *you* can see?

 

 

ppz -- lets not forget that you dont have to buy books you dont like.

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Originally posted by Cambarro:

There is no place in schools for this kind of social engineering/brainwashing...Let us not ignore the centre point.

ummm ...

 

... I rate the UK as one of the most open of societies in the world for homosexuals, yet obviously people behind the scenes want more.

Do not also think that it also tries to be an open society for musilms, blacks, africans, somalis, hindus, east europeans, west europeans, latin americans, west africans, budhists, atheists, chinese, tall people, short people ...

 

since we're all strangers, if classify to the n'th degree, why should sexuality be any used to discriminate in this world?

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Pujah   

Every author or business ie publisher has certain audience in mind when releasing new books and you are probably not their target audience. As a practicing Muslim you have a choice in the type of books you let your children read, in what type of friends they keep (at least while they are moldable), you have a choice in the kind of cartoon they watch. So why worry about things that you have control over?

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Ms DD   

CG

I wasnt talking about general discrimination. Even though i personally think that homosexuality is a detriment to society. But this isnt what we are discussing here. We are discussing children books which will be made available in primary schools.

 

Puuja

 

I am against the kids being taught these matters at schools. We are not talking about books where the parents have to go out and purchase. If you are buying the books, you have the control, but if the schools decides to teach your kids these stuff, then i am very much against it. But I am aware that you can ask the school not to let your kids read these books. I recall in my Sex education class back when i was in high school, we watched a pornographic video and parents never knew anything about it, till i came home and told them.

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NGONGE   

^^^ There is a bit of exaggeration there, surely. How could you ‘teach’ five-year-olds about homosexuality when you have not even started them on proper maths and English!

 

I think you underestimate these children by the way. Besides, they already learn about Christianity, Judaism and a dozen other faiths. They’re not less Muslim for it.

The books you mention, I imagine, are merely storybooks. And, as I’m sure you know, the beauty of stories is in the fact that THEY ARE NOT REAL. I think all this is an overreaction on your part.

 

ps

pornographic video? Come on now :D

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Ms DD   

^^ what do you call when man and woman get naked and doing the deed? That was what i watched in year 8.

 

I am not exxagerating. Imagine a 5 yr old who has read the books, thinking it is alright to fall in love either men or women. These fairy tale books represents something to kids. I loved hearing the stories of Cinderalla, Snow White and 7 dwarves, Repunzel etc I always dreamt that one day my prince charming would come and sweep oof my feet :D Lovely dream..i know...but reality is different (Hope my hubby aint reading this smile.gif )

I would be very shocked if your daughter/son dreams of Princess charming/prince charming sweeping off her feet.

 

Is it me or most somalis have become too liberal?

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cambaro:

"Is it me or most somalis have become too liberal?"

Where are the liberals naqasta. let me at them ...

 

anyhow, what your talking about as said is age old, people have been this and that forever, i still don't see how a child knowing that some people prefer their own sex makes a difference to what they choose.

If it did, then there would be no homosexuality in all the countries were its suppressed penally and kept underground

 

p.s.

wrt. to sex-ed. where would you rather they learnt? From their friends? - at this point think back to how your teenage friends discussed sex. Sister, i don't think teenagers are as innocent as u're thinking.

 

pps.

I spoke to princey and he sends a grunt, a wink, smile and a hip rustle, and said he tell you to keep your feet on the ground, he's stuck in a traffic jam and will be along shorty with his broom

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Zafir   

^Don’t let Taliban and Khayr Catch you throwing words like that yaa JB, they have given the word “conservative” a whole new meaning. :D

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Ms DD   

lool Johnny..Get with the time ..i dheh!

 

CG..Tell my prince charming..he is late by 5 yrs. he missed the boat smile.gif That is what you get when your only means of transport is a horse!

 

 

Where is Taliban when you need him? He would put you guys in your place!

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^^

i will NOT infer that Taliban is out from his absence

 

p.s.

princey is upset he said you promised like when you were 8...

 

Sister that is just mean... keep the poor boy hanging for like how many years and then when he's about to arrive you're otherwise occupied ..

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Ms DD   

^^ What do you mean boy? I have specifically asked for a man. I hope he has return to sender address.

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CG, so you think exposing young children to homosexuality would instill tolerance in them?

 

I think it's inappropriate--to say the least!

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NGONGE   

I would be very shocked if your daughter/son dreams of Princess charming/prince charming sweeping off her feet.

 

Is it me or most somalis have become too liberal?

Believe it or not, my kids think Cinderella is untidy and her prince very nosey (I don’t read them those stories without mocking the whole fairytale, can’t help myself). Snow White is greedy and her Seven Dwarfs already have names to describe how rubbish they are.

 

It really is no big deal, sister. You’re blowing it out of all proportions. The school teaches, you guide.

 

Ps

Liberal and conservative are terms thrown about willy-nilly. In my eyes, apart from some occasional lapses, you come across as being liberal. In fact, other than a couple of die-hard extremists (not even conservative, and they know not what they do or say anyway) I’m yet to come across someone on this website that I would call very conservative. You’re all liberal in varying degrees. :D

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