Abtigiis Posted April 22, 2010 Originally posted by Gheelle.T: AT&T mid familkaga ah oo aad guriga ka cayrisay hadduu yiraa gaal baad ahayd, sheekhu muu dhagaysan? By the way Raamsade dead body will be cremated and will need no janaazah, he has it in his will Why did you choose him over JB though? Just curious! Because if Johnny B dies, I will be among the family members who will bring his body to the mosque si loogu tukado. I will definitely not be one of those who will write to the admin about his posts here. Fiqi tolkii.... Raamsade haduu bilaa Tol yahay, who is to blame? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted April 22, 2010 ^kolka imaanka waad u qarini xaqiiqda JB sow maha? By the way I ddnt know that JB was a 'family member' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted April 22, 2010 ^ You learn something new each day on SOL. I don't know, JB comes across as positively clanless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted April 22, 2010 ^ma aragtay? maybe A&T's sixth sense working perfectly in addition to his already five senses or he is a good mind reader Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted April 22, 2010 JB aka Johny Bombaano waa laguu yaqaan lool@clanless Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted April 22, 2010 Johnny B 0.5 ayaanu isugu nimaadnaa. Aniga iyo isaguba waxaan nahay qabaa'iladda la haybsooco. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted April 22, 2010 ^Isagaan ka sugaynaa inuu caddeeyo 0.5 hadduu ku jiro! Adiga reer abtigaa 0.5 see ku aqbaleen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny B Posted April 22, 2010 True, that AT&T would of per automatic be among the family members who'd want me to be on the Muslim side of the "dead" ( qabuuraha in dhanka Muslimiinta la'iiga duugo ),not becouse he cares about what a self-promoting Imam would say, but becouse incase there is a war between the dead muslims and the dead christians or jews, i must find myself on the "tolka" side, which happens to be the Muslim side, and under no circumstance would i let Richard Corfield take revenge on Sayidka, be he(Richard), an Atheist or mother Goose beleiver. True too that, "Faqi tolkii...", so Nuune too would show upp on my funeral and read his somewhat wet "fataha" on my dead body despite him knowing my stance regading what was claimed to be a universal truth in 7th century's Arabia. The good thing about my blood and "toll" is we adore justice in all it's forms & shapes, so to keep an eye on God's justice, Me, Caano geel and few others will report to the "toll" how Justice is being served in hell, as my brethen in paradise will be busy drinking and doing "hooris". As for the topic, i think the Imam did make a good point, if the deceased did really not beleive in Islam, his personal wishs should be respected. After all Faith is a personal matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted April 22, 2010 ^^ War I will make sure inaan dhagaha kaaga eedaamo before you die intaasna faataxaan kuu raacin iyo alamtara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted April 30, 2010 Press Statement Concerning Our Deseased Father As-Salam 'Alaykum To: All the Islamic centers, and Muslim Organizations in North America, CAIR, Golaha Imaamyada Masaajidda ee W/America, Masjid Noor, Masjid Rachma, ISNA, ICNA, SAGC By Fathia Mohamed Yusuf April 30, 2010 ________________________ Our father, Mohamed Yusuf Bashir, a Muslim and Somali American passed away on April 7th, 2010. He had a long battle with complications due to multiple strokes. My late father was transported to Ohio from Lewiston Maine, to spend the last days of his life with his immediate family. After our father passed away he was transported to Rutherford Funeral home. Because of the passing of another Muslim, our father could not be buried until April 8th after Assar prayer. We arrived at the Ibn Taymiya Mosque in Columbus, Ohio, unaware of the events that would unfold this day. After Assar prayer, the Imam of the mosque Sheik Adam S Abdullahi took the microphone and shared some disturbing information. This is what he said 1. The Imam said that our father changed his name to a non-Islamic American name, although it is important to know that the Imam never met my father nor did he speak with any family member for clarification. 2. He also said the deceased never prayed. Again he made this without speaking with the mourning family members who were present at the mosque at the time. Whether or not my father prayed or not prayed is not the issue. The truth is that as an Imam, he should not be making such decisions without any clarification from the family. The duty of an Imam is not to pass judgment only Allah has the right to pass such judgment. An Imams’ duty is to comfort and soothe the deceased person’s family and to pray for forgiveness. 3. The Imam stated that the deceased never fasted. (This again is another false statement only Allah could know the answer to this. Our father was a diabetic with a list of 26 medications that he took on a daily basic) 4. The further stated that the deceased never took the Shahada. The congregation was very saddened to hear this and got very angry, and we the family were very disappointed to hear such blatant fabrication. He could have simply spoken with the family members for any clarification. A person in that position should not at all according to Sharia law refuse the Janaazah prayer for the deceased without clear evidence. Because of these reasons he said WE WILL NOT pray Janaazah. Imam Aden also said that our father could not be buried in an Islamic cemetery and that a man such as our father does not deserve to reap the rewards that are received through Janaazah prayer. 5. At no point was any of the information provided over the microphone by Imam Aden, to the congregation was ever verified by the family members or friends. Our family was disrespected in a time of grief and our deceased father was slandered in a Mosque. After slandering our deceased father, the Imam asked for witnesses to prove our father proclaimed Islam by saying SHAHADA. At this point at least 5 t o 10 friends and family members stood up, many others were so shocked by the imam’s words that they were frozen on the prayer floor. Even after the imam saw that there were many witnesses to my father’s faith, he continued to question them in an accusatory manner and said he will not pray for the deceased. As a result of this, pandemonium broke out in the Mosque. Different matters were raised as potential reason why Imam Aden behaved as he did. The idea of tribal clashes and misleading gossip was mentioned. However, the true issue is what happened in the Mosque on April 8th after Assar prayer was un-Islamic and unacceptable. 6. After the Imam was confronted by the community on the matter, the Imam claimed a man posing to be a family member, approached him and fed him with false information. Again this imam never bothered to verify the information with family members, including my mother or any of my siblings who attended at the mosque. Consequently our fathers Janaazah prayer turned into a Mosque riot. The Imam’s justification for his action later was to say that he called an Imam at Maine mosque to ask whether he used to attend, and I wonder if this Imam recognizes me from his own mosque. In conclusion we would cordially and respectfully request a full public apology from this man. Additionally, we request that this man receive counsel from all of the Sheik’s and Imams’ that sit on the Fiqh counsel in Columbus, Ohio. We also want the man that told such horrible things about our father, the man portraying to be a Sheik/Imam apologize to the family and publicly announce why he had such ill will towards the deceased. Sincerely, Fathia Mohamed Yusuf For further information on this issue, please contact Yusuf Family at Email: fathiayusuf@hotmail.com 614-546-7698 Columbus, OH- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chocolate and Honey Posted April 30, 2010 Oh! This is sad! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted April 30, 2010 Shows Imams too are human. Unfortunate incident but time to move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted April 30, 2010 ^^^Agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warrior of Light Posted May 1, 2010 As a fellow Muslim in Columbus, I would like to pass my sympathy to the deceased family. I hope the Imam will acknowledge his mistake and apologise to your family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abaay Heylay Posted May 3, 2010 If he was a muslim, may Allah s.w.a have mercy on his soul and if he was not a non-muslim, I am sorry for the loss to the family and may Allah make it a lesson for all of them and guide them through this. Sh. Adan is a good sheikh and in this case I am sure many shiekhs would have done the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites