Ra'iisal Wasaaraha Itoobiya oo ka hadlay qadiyada Sayid Max'ed Cabdulle Xasan,kuna tilmaamey Halyey

[Duufaan]

 

[Duufaan]

Now, the Sayid is going to be hero in Hargeysa too. They never go against what their master says. I am afraid now they may fire and arrest the poor man who wrote the book.

[Che -Guevara]

Slow appropriation of Somali history and we are busy fighting over nonsense.  Note, he also mentions Omar Samatar as Somali-Ethio and what next SYL?

[maakhiri1]

yeah now Statue will be erected downtown Hargaisa.

Omar Samarar is Somali hero, we should write more about him.

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, Duufaan said:

Now, the Sayid is going to be hero in Hargeysa too. They never go against what their master says. I am afraid now they may fire and arrest the poor man who wrote the book.

I understand you may be trying to use this as attcking some Somalis or Ethiopians, but it is the wrong use of history. Don't forget that Abiy is prime minister of country shaped in its current version by king Minelik. Illey and the kilil have no intension of forcing every Somali or Ethiopian into taking the Sayid as a hero, its just that otheres need to tolerate when others honour a hero for some.

PM Abiy cannot ask that of king Menelik all over Ethiopia. There is a monument for his cruelty of cutting hands of men and breasts of women.

Some Somalis or Ethiopians may want to erect monuments for the Sayid's cruelty and triviality as well. Are you going to accept it with the same zeal?

Balance is important in political history. The Sayid is hero in his anti-colonial struggle, but with his own methods might have hurt even the anti colonial struggle itself. He might have left the Somali people with seeds of disunity.

[Che -Guevara]

4 hours ago, Ducale said:

He doesn't really know what the demented Mullah was.

A rapist.... who just kidnapped young girls then call them his wives.

A bisexual..... who made poem about another man's g'us and how big.

A devilish sociopath..... who slaughtered livestock and babies in the same manner and gleefully. 

 

This Oromo, or to call him by his proper tittle..... Tigaray Poodle is nothing more than a symbolic gesture for his  pagan tribes. 

Okay, I understand your take on Sayid since you have a general contempt or hate towards D clans but what has Oromo done to you? And don't say they killed Somalis as Woyanes have killed many more Somalis.

[Saalax]

So is this new PM pro D block.

[Che -Guevara]

15 minutes ago, Ducale said:

But it became a habit of bitter qabiilist to hide under that name in order to camouflage their deep-seated hatred for certain ahlu-bayt clan.

At-least, be original in your accusation. For somalinimo thing, you seem to have developed a habit deflecting things like your fellow Tigray OO. We are not talking about soomaalinimo, not that I need to justify to a secessionist.

Just your irrational hate or maybe it is fear of Oromo and love for Tigray.  You sound like a Russian.

[Che -Guevara]

5 minutes ago, Saalax said:

So is this new PM pro D block.

may that's how this moron sees it

[Che -Guevara]

You are paranoid (siege mentality) and getting worse, seeing Ds everywhere, seek help! You have been on this forum for a short time, D afkaaga kama bixin from one day. I think we know who has hate in his heart. Seek help!

 And no, you are no Tigray, you are nothing more than a groupie. 

 

[Old_Observer]

7 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

At-least, be original in your accusation. For somalinimo thing, you seem to have developed a habit deflecting things like your fellow Tigray OO. We are not talking about soomaalinimo, not that I need to justify to a secessionist.

Just your irrational hate or maybe it is fear of Oromo and love for Tigray.  You sound like a Russian.

Che,

Why not for a change argue on an issue on its own merits? It clouds your thought if you start with a label. Example:

king Minelik for Amhara/Shiwa is smeone close to a saint. Yet the Oromo have a monument where Minelik cut women's breasts and mens hands. Afar-Tigray consider him a coward who signed every order the Europeans gave him including borders for today's Ethiopia. He was also a coward who signed off on Nile river for the British empire. The Afar Sultan was defeated, captured and imprisoned in Jima by being attacked Italians at front anf Minelik from back sandwitched.

You see how contraversial personalities can get in one country?

The Sayid comes from kilil. You only want to see his fight against colonialism, but on the other side he also weakened the fight against colonialism and also left people very disunited to an extent he did not leave options, but for some to side with Minelik. It should be a reminder for both positive and negative aspects.

If labeling helps you simplify issues, please continue, but remember that human beings are more complicated than boxes.

[Che -Guevara]

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Daraawiishti hadii ay soo xarootay waa mahad Allah.  Niman soomaalinimadu ku dheertahay oo jihaadkii sayidka sii wada. Somaliland bah dalkooda ah xaq na ku leh iney taageeran oo Mawlana Muuse Biixi Cabdi xukuumadisa iyo dalka iyo dadka iyo diinta, in nafta loo huro kaga haboon than waisting time on fat boy Gaass. 

 

Allaw Dhawr.

https://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/94414-reer-sool-intii-ugu-danbaysay-rajo-ka-qabtay-maamulka-puntland-ka-tashanaysa/

 

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He doesn't really know what the demented Mullah was.

A rapist.... who just kidnapped young girls then call them his wives.

A bisexual..... who made poem about another man's g'us and how big.

A devilish sociopath..... who slaughtered livestock and babies in the same manner and gleefully. 

https://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/95249-raiisal-wasaaraha-itoobiya-oo-ka-hadlay-qadiyada-sayid-maxed-cabdulle-xasankuna-tilmaamey-halyey/

Who you are is better captured by your own words, a hypocrite who says anything and has no core principles.  And you really to stop  invoking God's name.

[Suldaanka]

The Ethiopians can claim Ina Cabdulle Xassan for all they want. In fact, Mohamed Cabdulle Xassan's eldest son served as a minister for King Haile Selase's gov't. One of the ironies encountered by Somaliland's first delegation to Addis Abeba in early 1960s, was when they encountered the bigges opposition for the attempted negotiations for the return of the Reserve Area to Somaliland, was not from King Haile Selase himself but his minister Ina Cabdule Xassan's son who was sitting besides the Emperor.

Hence, It is only natural for the Ethiopians to also say the father was a Ethiopian nationalist. 

[Old_Observer]

24 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

The Ethiopians can claim Ina Cabdulle Xassan for all they want. In fact, Mohamed Cabdulle Xassan's eldest son served as a minister for King Haile Selase's gov't. One of the ironies encountered by Somaliland's first delegation to Addis Abeba in early 1960s, was when they encountered the bigges opposition for the attempted negotiations for the return of the Reserve Area to Somaliland, was not from King Haile Selase himself but his minister Ina Cabdule Xassan's son who was sitting besides the Emperor.

Hence, It is only natural for the Ethiopians to also say the father was a Ethiopian nationalist. 

For him there is no doubt, being Ethiopian. Even Ahmed Gurey was Ethiopian too, since he worked for the Hareri Sultan which included Ceylac/Zeila where they departed from. The British offered Haileslassie to take Zeila when winding down the empire, but he did not take it, since he was afraid will not get Eritrea if he takes Zeila.

Being Ethnic Somali does not prevent one from being national of this or that country.

[Che -Guevara]

Yes, Gurey and Sayid who fought Xabeshi colonial highlanders and their white Christian backers are Ethiopians, and soon  OO will tell us, Tillaamok is Ethiopian