Peaceful protest rally against cartoons in Toronto

[Haneefah]

Salam, I was just forwarded this news and thought I should share with you folks. I urge those of you in the GTA (or even from farther away, if you have the means) to attend this peaceful demonstration Insha'Allah and show your support for the Prophet (saw).

 

 

AGAINST OFFENSIVE DANISH CARTOONS RECENTLY

PUBLISHED IN THE EUROPEAN NEWS PAPERS

 

HELD AT: QUEEENS PARK

FEBRUARY 19TH at 2:00PM

 

“The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves†(Holy Quran 33: 6)

 

"None of you has perfect faith until I am more beloved to him than his parents, his children and all the people"(Riydhus Saliheen)

 

DO YOU LOVE THE PROPHET (PBUH)?

DO YOU WISH TO DEFEND HIS HONOUR?

THEN COME OUT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS ON FEBRUARY 19th AT THIS PEACEFUL PROTEST!

 

“The publication of the caricatures is clearly an

insensitivity towards the perception and beliefs of a religious group†(The Toronto Star)

 

ORGANIZED BY: UNITED FRONT CANADA

 

(Supported by more than seventy five interfaith organizations)

 

For update on location and further details

Visit: www.unitedfrontcanada.com

 

We are also looking for volunteers to help organize the rally, please contact us:

volunteers@unitedfrontcanada.com

 

1. Abdul Qayyum Mufti:(416) 908-5600

2. Syed Naqvi:(416) 414-4620

3. Asghar Imam:(647) 866-5917

 

Special Instructions for participants:

Bring placards of universal message of Islam “peace & love for all humanityâ€; Bring books & material of Prophet’s teaching for Dawah; Make sure it’s a peaceful protest; No offensive slogans/placards against anyone; No burning of flags etc.; No damage to property or any kind; Every action should be within the lawful limits; Violators would be responsible themselves for their actions.; Organizers / helpers are not responsible for participants’ actions

[Baashi]

That's the way to go. Abraar go do your civic duty and do it in a peaceful manner. Hopefully Checkmate, Tuujiye, MMA, and the whole SOL Toronto gang will show up without ulo iyo dhagaxyo Politicians are watching how we react. Large numbers of potential voters can tip the ballance of power at the local level.

[xiinfaniin]

I second that. For those who leave in Canada this is an opporunity to register your disapproval with how the prophet is depicted by the racists in little Denmark.

 

go and fire from all your four cyclinders, i say.

[Haneefah]

Baashoow, you'd be surprised to know how Torontonians are becoming dormant by the day. Most often, dadkayaga reer tuuloyinka ah ayaa intey utagaan barakiciya oo yidhaa war heedhahaya sida isu dhaama

 

Originally posted by Baashi:

Politicians are watching how we react. Large numbers of potential voters can tip the ballance of power at the local level.

Indeed. We really need to think ahead, think smart, and avoid acting on an impulse by all means. Also, I strongly believe we, the Canadian Muslims, have a great chance of entering the political realm of this country and aiming for higher positions through which our positive efforts would not only be manifested nationally for the Muslim ummah, but also have the potential of influencing Muslims internationally. Thus, visionary individuals with elevated spirituality and superb interpersonal and strategic thinking skills is what the ummah is in need of now...and Insha'Allah we shall see more of them emerge in the near future.

 

 

Generally, Canadians have been taking a very balanced position on this issue and they are supporting the Muslims in expressing their discontent.

 

The following are recent statements by the Foreign Affairs Minister, Peter MacKay, regarding the issue.

 

“The publication of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed has caused offence to Muslims and non-Muslims around the world and in Canada.

 

“Freedom of expression is a legally enshrined principle in Canada, but it must be exercised responsibly. We commend those Canadians who have acted appropriately.

 

“However, we condemn the violent protests that have occurred in some parts of the world, and find the attacks on foreign diplomatic missions particularly deplorable.

 

“This sensitive issue highlights the need for a better understanding of Islam and of Muslim communities. Respect for cultural diversity and freedom of religion is a fundamental principle in Canada. The Government of Canada will continue to promote a better understanding of Islam internationally, in partnership with Muslim communities.â€

[Haneefah]

Here's a message to the world by the very famous and inspirational speaker Mr. Amr Khalid, it's rather lengthy but quite worth the read.

 

In the name of Allah, the All-Merciful, the Ever-Merciful. All praise be to Allah and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

 

This is my message to the Muslim Nation, the Muslim youth, the Western civilization, and the whole world. I present this message through Amrkhaled.net to reach the Life-Makers youth and the youth of the forum. I ask them to deliver it exactly as I have said it to the Muslim Nation, the Muslim and Arab youth, the West through all their contacts there and surely to the whole world.

 

My first message is to the Muslim Nation and the Muslim youth:

 

Allah (TWT)[1] says what can be translated as, “Say, “In case your fathers, and your sons, and your brethren, and your spouses, and your kinsmen, and riches that you have scored (Literally: committed) and commerce whose slackening you are apprehensive of, and dwellings you are satisfied with, in case these are more beloved to you than Allah and His Messenger and striving in His way, then await till Allah comes up with His Command; and Allah does not guide the immoral people†(TMQ[2], 9:24). If any of these eight things is dearer to you than Allah, the Messenger of Allah (SAWS)[3] and striving in the way of Allah and His Prophet; if your sons are dearer to you than the Messenger of Allah; if your money is dearer to you than the Messenger of Allah; if your country is dearer to you then the Messenger of Allah; if your wife is dearer to you than the Messenger of Allah, then expect the dreadful anger of Allah (TWT) to be near.

 

To you I emphasize that dignifying and loving Allah’s Prophet is a divine precept in the same way that loving Allah (TWT) is. Again listen, “Say, “In case your fathers, and your sons, and your brethren… in case these are more beloved to you than Allah and His Messenger …†observe the status of loving Allah’s Messenger (SAWS).

 

Why should there be all that love? There is another ayah[4] in the Qur’an in which Allah says what can be translated as, “Indeed there has already come to you a Messenger from (among) yourselves. Mighty (i.e., burdensome) to him is whatever distresses you. Most eager is he for your (welfare), to the believers (he is) constantly compassionate, constantly merciful.†(TMQ, 9:128). It is because he is such that we love him in this way. Accordingly the relationship between us and him is just like the ayah in which Allah describes what can be translated as, “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and (the ones) who are with him are strict against the steadfast disbelievers, constantly merciful among themselves. You see them constantly bowing themselves, (and) constantly prostrating themselves, seeking Grace from Allah and all-blessed Satisfaction…â€(TMQ, 48:29). In order to ensure that such a relationship remains like that for ever, in an ayah in surat[5] Al-Hujuraat, which continuously rings in our ears, Allah (TWT) states what can be translated as, “And know that among you is the Messenger of Allah…â€(TMQ, 49:7). The Messenger of Allah is among us?! Who is this ayah addressing? The sahaba[6] at time of the sahaba? No, this ayah is everlasting and effective everywhere and forever. O youth, O mothers, O ladies… Everyone must “know†that in the year 2006, in the year 2010, in the coming century, in the past century: during any age or time, know that among you is the Messenger of Allah. He is among you with his shari’ah[7], he is among you with his sunnah[8] and he is among you with his mercy. He is among you with his path, among you with his way and among you with the light and guidance he left behind. He is among you with his love to you. He is among you with the fact that each time anyone prays for him (conveying him peace and blessings), Allah returns his soul back to him so that he can answer us. He is among us with the fact that all our deeds are presented to him every Thursday, so whatever good there is he thanks Allah for it, and whatever evil there is, he asks Allah to forgive us for it.

 

Again, the four ayahs I mentioned order us to love him because, “… Mighty (i.e., burdensome) to him is whatever distresses you. Most eager is he for your (welfare), to the believers (he is) constantly compassionate, constantly mercifulâ€. So the relationship between us and him is, “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and (the ones) who are with him are strict against the steadfast disbelievers, constantly merciful among themselves…â€. Allah continues to remind us of this relationship by saying, “And know that among you is the Messenger of Allah…â€. All prayers and blessings of Allah be upon Muhammad (SAWS).

 

My message to the Muslim Nation and Muslim youth is, loving Allah’s Messenger, dignifying Allah’s messenger, defending Allah’s messenger and living on the path of Allah’s messenger is a duty and a responsibility that we will be asked about on the Day of Judgment. O youth, there is a responsibility resting on our shoulders. O Life-Makers, there is a responsibility resting on our shoulders. O ladies, there is a responsibility resting on our shoulders that dignifying Allah’s Messenger is a trust that we will present to him on the Day of Judgment when we meet him at the hawd[9]. We will go to him (SAWS) and tell him we are your ummah[10], we have fulfilled our duty. Perhaps we may have been wrongdoers, perhaps we sinned and perhaps we did not always work perfectly to reform and revive your ummah but we could not but dignify you and make the whole world dignify you. This is a responsibility that we return to you on the Day of Judgment that you may use to intercede for us and allow us to drink from your hawd while patting us happily. You (SAWS) would then say to us, yes, you made mistakes and committed sins, but dignifying me was so dear to you. Then you would make us drink from your hawd.

 

This is a trust. My message to the ummah is that we can never betray that trust whatever happens; it is the trust of dignifying the Prophet (SAWS) and making the world dignify Allah’s Messenger (SAWS). This is in addition to loving him and living on his sunnah and on his path. This is my message to the Muslim Nation. We will never neglect dignifying our Prophet, our beloved and our role model (SAWS).

 

Now this is my message to the West:

 

There exists a cultural vagueness in the West. This vagueness results from the presence of two different concepts. The first is a great Western concept that we respect, appraise, and need. That concept is freedom of speech. This is a great humane and civilized concept. On the other hand, there is the great Islamic concept of dignifying Allah’s Messenger (SAWS). The problem arises due to the lack of understanding of the Islamic Civilization and the Western Civilization regarding these two concepts. The non-Muslims cannot value the rank of dignifying the Prophet (SAWS). On the other hand, due to the below-average quality of practical application of freedom of speech, Muslims have a vague understanding of the concept of respecting freedom of speech.

 

Accordingly, what is required now? We do not want to refuse the concept of freedom of speech, absolutely not. However, the West should alter the freedom of speech so that it does not collide with the very important Islamic value of dignifying the Prophet (SAWS). Here lies the vagueness and ambiguity. The West understands very well the freedom of speech (which we appreciate) but it does not understand Islamic values, such as dignifying the Prophet (SAWS) and other Islamic sanctities. This is where the Western cultural vagueness lies.

 

I clearly say to the West, you have a problem. You cannot comprehend how much the Muslims love Prophet Muhammad (SAWS). You are still unable to understand this point. If you had really encompassed its significance, you would never have accepted what happened. The West, in general, governments and people, does not apprehend that Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) is dearer to us than our parents, dearer to me than my father and dearer than my mother. I am sure that any Muslim woman listening to me now, be her religious or not, will swear on that fact. Just ask, what does Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) mean to you? It is not even necessary to do that because it is so evident, but you may conduct surveys for yourselves, and you will realize how true what I am saying is. Ask any youth, be he heedless or pious; ask any Muslim anywhere, in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Yemen or in Egypt. Ask any Muslim in any village ...regardless of how religious he is, be he an obedient Muslim or not, a drug user or not, successful in his life or a failure, old or young, ask them, what does Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) mean to you?

 

O West, I affirm that Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) is dearer to all Muslims than their own parents. O West, Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) is dearer to us, Muslims, than our children and grandchildren. O West, Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) is dearer to us than our money, dearer to us than our own selves. He is dearer to us than our own countries. O Egyptian, who is dearer to you, Egypt or Allah’s Prophet? O Saudi, who is dearer to you, Saudi Arabia or Allah’s Prophet? O Yemeni, O Moroccan, O Algerian, who is dearer to you, your country or Allah’s Messenger (SAWS)? O West, comprehend that meaning, Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) is dearer to Muslims than their children and their own selves.

 

We can never forget the hadith that I repeatedly mentioned during the episodes of “On the Path of the Belovedâ€. O West, listen to this hadith[11] as it forms part of the sentimental make-up of the Islamic personality:

 

“We were with the Prophet and he was holding the hand of Omar Ibnul-Khattab. Omar said to him, ‘O Allah's Messenger! You are dearer to me than everything except my own self.’ The Prophet said, ‘No, by Him in Whose Hand my soul is, (you will not have complete faith) till I am dearer to you than your own self.’ Then Omar said to him, ‘However, now, by Allah, you are dearer to me than my own self.’ The Prophet said, ‘Now, O Omar, (now you are a believer).’â€[12]

 

Being a true believer is conditioned with loving Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) more than our own selves.

 

O West, this is our notion and this is our love for Prophet Muhammad (SAWS).

 

I know that the West resists racism as they realize very well what it means. I also know that they stand up against any anti-Semitic assaults as they recognize the serious consequences of such acts. Yet, true contradiction lies in respecting Semitism and resisting racialism on the one hand, while humiliating the most valued figure for Muslims, the Prophet (SAWS), on the other.

 

Six months ago, a famous journalist of the BBC attacked Arabs describing them as a worthless nation. In spite of being a renowned figure with a daily program in Britain, his slandering was rejected by the British as racist and he was fired from the BBC. At that time, I was preparing a program on family matters, and knowing that he had articles and shows tackling this subject, I wanted to refer to them. To my surprise, none of his works were available due to his intolerant views against Arabs. There is no way to compare the Prophet (SAWS) to the Arabic nation, as slandering them is of a diminutive nature when compared to offending the Prophet (SAWS). My message to the West then is that freedom of speech, which we indeed respect, honor, and actually need, should be modified so that it does not clash with the highly revered Muslim value of dignifying the Prophet (SAWS). The West respects monarchies, Semitism, all races, and different ethnicities, and its respect to the Prophet (SAWS) and to sacred Muslim values should be no less.

 

Thus, my message to the Muslim ummah is that we should not forsake dignifying the Prophet (SAWS) under any circumstance. On the other hand, my message to the West is that the value of freedom of speech should be adapted to Muslim values.

 

My third message is to the whole world. This offense does not aim at the Prophet (SAWS) alone, but rather to one billion, two hundred thousand Muslims; or rather to all humanity. To explain this further to everyone, whether Muslim or not, I believe that Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) is the greatest personality that existed on earth. There is no doubt that his model of reform was most successful so far and whoever denies this fact is indeed most ungrateful. Slandering him is actually slandering humanity. Great men that existed throughout history were qualified as such due to a certain trait in their characters. Gandhi for example, was a great politician, Shakespeare a great dramatist, Voltaire a great writer, Napoleon a great military leader and so on. They were all great in one aspect or the other, while the Prophet (SAWS) was great in every aspect of his life. He was so great morally that he never hit or humiliated a soul, never beat a woman, never betrayed or lied, never went back on his word or avenged himself. He was always called 'the truthful and honest one' before bearing the message of Islam, and after becoming a prophet, the values and principles of the Qur’an were the model for his behavior. He was also great in his political insight. After the Battle of the Trench, for example, he knew that it was a turning point that would not be followed by a defeat. Moreover, he was great in his submissiveness to Allah as he bowed when praying, saying,

 

“O Allah, it is for Thee that I bowed. I affirm my faith in Thee and I submit to Thee, and submit humbly before Thee my hearing, my eyesight, my marrow, my bone, my sinew.â€[13]

 

He (SAWS) also used to stand (in prayer) until both his feet swelled. When asked why (he offered such an unbearable prayer) he said,

 

“Should I not be a thankful slave?†[14]

 

He was great in the way he believed in freedom of opinion. In the Battle of Badr, he changed the location of the battlefield upon the advice of a soldier. He also agreed to dig the trench around Madinah according to Salman al-Faresy’s suggestion, and changed the fighting plan of the Battle of Uhud to respect the opinion of some of his companions. This is how he respected freedom of speech 1400 years ago!

 

He was great at forgiving others. On the day of the Conquest of Makkah, his companions were rejoicing saying, “Today is the day of a great battle and today Quraysh will be humiliated by Allahâ€. Conversely, the prophet's (SAWS) response was that today is the day of mercy in which Allah will bestow honor on Quraysh.

 

He was great in his voluntary renunciation of worldly luxuries when he could have been the richest man on earth had he wished to be. He was also great in the way he dealt with young people motivating them to exercise. For example, he once passed by some of the young companions of the tribe of Aslam practicing archery and he said to them,

 

“O offspring of Ishmael! Practice archery as your father was a great archer. I am with (on the side of) the son of so-and-so-.†Hearing that, one of the two teams stopped throwing. The Prophet (SAWS) asked them, “Why are you not throwing?†They replied, “O Allah's Apostle! How shall we throw when you are with the opposite team?†He said, “Throw, for I am with you all.â€[15]

 

His enemies were never able to slander him due to any bad trait. He lived with them for 40 years before the divine message and another 13 years after it, and never were they able to smear him with a single bad trait that marred his character, or doubt his outstanding abilities. They even testified that he had never lied in his life. That is how great he was and that is how humiliating him smears every American, Indian, Pakistani etc.; everyone, whether Muslim or not. It is an insult to all humankind when such a great man is insulted.

 

He was great in his mercy. When he was persecuted by the people of At-Ta’ef and stoned until his feet kept bleeding, the angel of the mountains asked for his permission to destroy them. Yet his response was to supplicate Allah to guide them and to save them. Furthermore, in the Battle of Uhud, he was injured, overcome by his enemies, had his front teeth broken, and fell into a pit with blood gushing from his wounds. Nevertheless, when his companions asked him to curse them and to invoke Allah to punish them, he declined stressing the fact that he was sent as a mercy to all of humankind. He even invoked Allah to guide them to the right path and to excuse them for their ignorance.

 

He was merciful even with animals narrating that,

 

“A man saw a dog eating mud from (the severity of) thirst. So, that man took a shoe (and filled it) with water and kept on pouring the water for the dog till it quenched its thirst. So Allah approved of his deed and made him enter Paradise.â€[16]

 

Similarly, he (SAWS) said,

 

“A woman was tortured and was put in Hell because of a cat which she had kept locked till it died of hunger.â€[17]

 

This is our Prophet and this is how great he was. Unlike that of other great human figures in history, the Prophet’s greatness is lasting throughout the generations.

 

He believed in co-existence. He trusted the Jews and gave them all the rights of citizenship in Madinah, guaranteeing that no one would harm them, take any of their money, force them to convert, or intercede with their freedom to worship. He was also great in co-existence when he was against using the Muslims loyal to him in Makkah to create tension among the people of Quraysh, even during the war between Makkah and Madinah. At the time of the Hudaybeya treaty, he could have waged war against Quraysh but resorted to peace instead. He could have turned it into a bloodbath, but he chose peace and forced it on his enemies.

 

The human race should be proud that Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) existed one day, whether they were Muslims, Hindu, Jews, Christians, believers of any kind, or even non-believers. He is a turning point in the course of humanity. This is Muhammad (SAWS) and this is how humanity was humiliated the day he was. People around the world are demanding an international law that protects the dignity of this great Prophet.

 

That was my message to Muslims, to the West, and to the whole world.

 

One final question remains here, which is, what is it that we want? We do not need speeches. It took me some time to deliver this speech, as I believe that speeches alone cannot solve this problem. We do not even want superficial apologies that are not as deep as our wounds. We do need effective actions that denote Western respect for the Prophet (SAWS). We will not stop our protests until our Prophet regains the dignity he duly deserves as our great leader. Thus empty words and shallow apologies are not enough, actions must be taken. Until then, I need everyone to convey this message to their families and friends. I want it to be translated by Dar al-Tarjama to all languages and to be distributed everywhere to reach the West. This speech will be broadcast on Iqraa’ channel soon and I want as many people as possible to watch it. Meanwhile we should do our best to let the people know about our Prophet (SAWS). ‘On the Path of the Beloved’ for example, a program about the Prophet’s life, is being replayed now on Iqraa’ every Tuesday and Friday. Dr Tarek Suweidan, A’aed al-Qarny, Al-Habib Aly al-Jifry and Dr. Al-Buty are all renowned modern Muslims scholars who have speeches and articles about the life of the Prophet. Please do your best to make good use of their works as well as the tapes of ‘On the Path of the Beloved’ to enlighten the whole world about the Prophet (SAWS), until this predicament is unraveled and until Muslim requests are answered with real actions. Thus, what I am asking everyone to do is to distribute this message everywhere and to let everyone know about who the Prophet (SAWS) is. Our duty is double fold, we need to distribute this speech and make it available everywhere, and we need to introduce the Prophet (SAWS) and tell his story to everyone, among Muslims and non-Muslims. This speech is to be continued and I am indeed not done yet with this issue. Thank you. May peace and Allah’s blessing and mercy be upon you all, and let us get to work.

 

Amr Khaled

 

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[Haneefah]

Bismillah Masha'Allah, the protest today was amazing. I went there along with my older brothers and subhanallah, it was quite moving and tear-inducing; to see thousands of Muslim brothers and sisters gathered and showing their love for the prophet (saw) and to feel that intense Islamic atmosphere was a great experience. Though the weather was bitter cold and somewhat unbearable, it mattered not and it stopped no one (from the very young to the elderly).

 

I personally kept thinking about the rightly guided sahabas (may Allah be pleased with them) and the great lengths they used to go to protect our beloved Rasul (SAW) and to profess their utmost love and respect for him--how blessed were they to have been granted those opportunities.

 

Insha'Allah, our message (and that of Muslims around the whole world) was received well and hopefully it will make a difference.

[Khayr]

Originally posted by Abraar:

Bismillah Masha'Allah, the protest today was amazing. I went there along with my older brothers and subhanallah, it was quite moving and tear-inducing; to see thousands of Muslim brothers and sisters gathered and showing their love for the prophet (saw) and to feel that intense Islamic atmosphere was a great experience. Though the weather was bitter cold and somewhat unbearable, it mattered not and it stopped no one (from the very young to the elderly).

 

I personally kept thinking about the rightly guided sahabas (may Allah be pleased with them) and the great lengths they used to go to protect our beloved Rasul (SAW) and to profess their utmost love and respect for him--how blessed were they to have been granted those opportunities.

 

Insha'Allah, our message (and that of Muslims around the whole world) was received well and hopefully it will make a difference.

MashaAllah,

 

Does the GOOD of the UMMAH every get MUCH MEDIA coverage? Had someone burned a flag, would the coverage been different? We don't see these gatherings on the news-they are not emphasized and what is-is the NEGATIVES!

 

I recall in the seerah about how the Sahaba went about protecting the Rasul (sallahu caliyhe wasilm), putting their lives before all him, putting their children's lives before him (mothers sending all their boys)...etc.

 

I think at times, how do some of the muslims who view this Cartoon subject to be 'frivilous/trivial' or not worthy of 'Too much' attention, expect to get to Jannah. The Rasul (sallahu calihe wasilm) should never, ever.....ever....be a 'drag' in our lifes. His Honor is our Duty as Muslims and we protect it THROUGH character, through words, through our actions etc....

 

I just can't think of a Bigger issue that the Muslim Ummah has faced in our life time.

[Naden]

I wasn't going to add any more to this topic but since the brother has a direct question to people who don't find this cartoon issue to be forefront in the struggle of the ummah, I will address it.

 

I recall in the seerah about how the Sahaba went about protecting the Rasul (sallahu caliyhe wasilm)

The prophet (pbuh) was under direct and physical threat, to curb his message and slaughter his followers. If you refer to surat al-anbiya'a, you will find the struggles of prophets before him documented. Their struggles against non-believers are similar and he was triumphant. Look at us, we are more than a billion strong. Did he fulfill his destiny and bring the word of his lord against calamitous obstacles? Yes. What state is his ummah in? You answer that question. Is it his responsibility? No. Is it yours and mine and every other muslims? Answer that one too.

 

I think at times, how do some of the muslims who view this Cartoon subject to be 'frivilous/trivial' or not worthy of 'Too much' attention, expect to get to Jannah.

 

This is what it is all about? A chance to collect brownie points to endear yourselves to God when judgement comes. Maybe it will work.

 

This subject of cartoons is not only a trivial one but a serious distraction from the political and economic belittlement of the muslim ummah. Get this through your small, collective, and self-serving indignities. Think back to your school days in elementary school. Picture this: a snivelling child in tattered clothes (his parents are dirt poor), his bag spills its contents at every turn and his lunch is a laughable mess that he must endure with kids laughing and pointing. Got that in your heads. Now think about all the kicks, punches, and sneers he gets. Teachers don't give a damn, his poor distracted parents would never show up to complain. This is where we are. I've already spoken about the real threats to muslims in every region so I won't again.

 

The Rasul (sallahu calihe wasilm) should never, ever.....ever....be a 'drag' in our lifes. His Honor is our Duty as Muslims and we protect it THROUGH character, through words, through our actions etc....

His honour? To whom? Why is his honour in the eyes of non-believers so important? His message, the message of God means more, you would think. But wait, we muslims tend to worry so much about our image in the eyes of western/white folks so this is just a hissy fit to get into their good graces again. A more important question as an ummah, I would think, than a couple of cartoons would be how our Kuwaiti brothers and sisters allowed armies to assemble and murder 100,000 muslims or SA continued to supply oil to those doing the murdering.

 

Get off your lame beds and ask the more difficult questions, brownie points are for sissies.

 

I just can't think of a Bigger issue that the Muslim Ummah has faced in our life time.

That is your limitation, brother. Oh no wait, that is your choice.

[Pi]

Man, I never violently nodded my head in agreement before. Well said, Naden. The undenibably reasonable way you advance your points reminds me of another Nomad.

[Lame Radar]

I second that commotion, wow! I thought I was the only one wondering where the punchline was :confused:

 

Bravo Naden

[Naden]

Thank you, folks:).

 

If I find the complete text of his speech in 2003, I will post parts of Dr. Mahathir Mohamed speech at the OIC where he admonishes muslims to pay close attention to our economic state and lift ourselves from this second class human status.

 

 

Originally posted by Pi:

Man, I never violently nodded my head in agreement before. Well said, Naden.

Bravo Naden

[Khayr]

This subject of cartoons is not only a trivial one but a serious distraction from the political and economic belittlement of the muslim ummah. Get this through your small, collective, and self-serving indignities.

 

 

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I just can't think of a Bigger issue that the Muslim Ummah has faced in our life time.

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That is your limitation, brother. Oh no wait, that is your choice.

Naden,

 

Check out some of these muslims and see if they thought that it is a 'TRIVIAL' subject!

 

Enjoy!

 

 

Thousands came out in Turkey on the weekend

 

 

In Syria

 

 

In Karachi, last week

 

 

 

In NYC

 

The proof is in the pictures and many more that you can find on the net.

 

 

Oh I forgot on think,

 

Layzie G.,

 

The issue hasn't been forgotton yet, sorry it keeps popping up on sol and all over the world!

[Naden]

Brother Khayr, I was hoping you would come back with a more substantiative support for your arguments but I am disappointed and frankly a bit bored.

 

You want my reaction to these pictures? Here it goes: OH WOW, how many muslims can put on clothes (colour-matched and all), put together posters, and march in a group? Mashallah, we sure made our prophet(pbuh) proud!!!!!!!

 

Proof of exactly what is in the pictures?

 

I still think this is a trivial issue even a laughable one and I am leaving this topic now but will happily return if you present another argument.

 

 

Originally posted by Khayr:

quote:

This subject of cartoons is not only a trivial one but a serious distraction from the political and economic belittlement of the muslim ummah. Get this through your small, collective, and self-serving indignities.

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I just can't think of a Bigger issue that the Muslim Ummah has faced in our life time.

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That is your limitation, brother. Oh no wait, that is your choice.

Naden,

 

Check out some of these muslims and see if they thought that it is a 'TRIVIAL' subject!

 

Enjoy!

 

The proof is in the pictures and many more that you can find on the net.

Oh I forgot on think,

 

Layzie G.,

The issue hasn't been forgotton yet, sorry it keeps popping up on sol and all over the world!

[Khayr]

Originally posted by naden:

Brother Khayr, I was hoping you would come back with a more substantiative support for your arguments but I am disappointed and frankly a bit bored.

 

You want my reaction to these pictures? Here it goes: OH WOW, how many muslims can put on clothes (colour-matched and all), put together posters, and march in a group? Mashallah, we sure made our prophet(pbuh) proud!!!!!!!

 

Proof of exactly what is in the pictures?

 

I still think this is a trivial issue even a laughable one and I am leaving this topic now but will happily return if you present another argument.

 

 

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Originally posted by Khayr:

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This subject of cartoons is not only a trivial one but a serious distraction from the political and economic belittlement of the muslim ummah. Get this through your small, collective, and self-serving indignities.

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I just can't think of a Bigger issue that the Muslim Ummah has faced in our life time.

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That is your limitation, brother. Oh no wait, that is your choice.

Naden,

 

Check out some of these muslims and see if they thought that it is a 'TRIVIAL' subject!

 

Enjoy!

 

The proof is in the pictures and many more that you can find on the net.

Oh I forgot on think,

 

Layzie G.,

The issue hasn't been forgotton yet, sorry it keeps popping up on sol and all over the world!

Naden,

 

Just remember this, inshallah and that is that

arguing for what is TRUTH/HAQQ is not about WINNING an ARGUMENT or Appeasing someone.

Winning the Argument is not the Objective but rather stating what needs to be stated because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO AND SAY (no matter how unpopular it might be).

 

 

Now how does the say going-

 

A PICTURE TELLS A THOUSAND WORDS! :cool:

[Lidia]

I've been thinking about this cartoon incident lately. We've all seen the pictures on TV. Embassies firebombed, call for violence and the boycotting of Danish foods. All because of an opinion cartoon in a newspaper. One Islamic leader said that it is unacceptable to insult any prophet of god, including Jesus. However, I can't tell if there's been a religious figure/prophet so cartooned as Jesus has been. So, according to the Islamic leader/Imam, it sounds like all the Muslims should come to the defence of all prophets, including Jesus. But I have not heard event a hint of dissent by our Muslim community about Jesus getting made fun of. So, my question is where is the defence? I guess, what I’m trying to say is that, I'm puzzled that when an Imam, a religious teacher, says all prophets are sacred...no one has stepped up publicly (that I have seen) to defend the others at any time in the past. I find this lack of continuity a puzzling paradox that doesn't make sense. So, my question to you is, where was the public support when the other prophets received the same ridicule?