Holac Posted March 29, 2018 To build on Oodweyne's culture talk, let us ask each other this question: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 29, 2018 Culture is not stagnant! Think of Constantine the Great and Christianity in the midst of Pagan Roman empire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted March 29, 2018 But why did ours change so fast? Usually, true cultural shift takes generations to manifest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted March 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Holac said: To build on Oodweyne's culture talk, let us ask each other this question: The simple answer is - the civil war. Political upheaval and insecurity are the catalyst for the rapid change of everything. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted March 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Oodweyne said: Spot on. And that is the short version of a long treaties (or wordy argument) I was about to write to answer that question. And it seems you have actually saved for me the energy I was going to waste on that precise question in which you have pithily put an appropriate answer to it. I know you were in the UK when the faqash onslaught was ragging in our homeland, but if you ask anyone living in the refugee camps of Dulcad and Darroor at that time they will tell you the Saudi educated wadaado appeared in the scene as soon as the refugees set up their flimsy tents for shelter. But I must thank them for giving our suffering and distraught people the moral support they desperately needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted March 29, 2018 Well said Tallaabo and Oodweyne. What is truly painful is that after introducing strict Wahabism to the poor Somalis, the Saudis are slowly getting away from the practice, leaving our people holding on to practice that many agree is destructive to true Islam. This announcement is from Feb 18, 2018. Saudi cleric says women need not wear abaya robe in public Saudi women should not have to wear the loose-fitting abaya robe to shroud their bodies in public, a senior cleric said, in the latest sign of a far-reaching liberalisation drive. “More than 90% of pious Muslim women in the Muslim world do not wear abayas,” said Sheikh Abdullah al-Mutlaq, a member of the council of senior scholars – the kingdom’s highest religious body. “So we should not force people to wear abayas,” he told a television programme broadcast on Friday. Saudi Arabia, which has some of the world’s tightest restrictions on women, requires them to wear the garment by law. The government has not said whether it will change the law, but this is the first such comment from a senior religious figure. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has recently introduced a series of reforms in favour of women as the kingdom prepares for a post-oil era. Saudi Arabia last month allowed women to enter a football stadium for the first time to watch a game. The move came four months after the kingdom announced an end to a long-standing ban on women driving – a major change to the country’s ultra-conservative social order. But women still face a number of restrictions. Under Saudi Arabia’s existing guardianship system, a male family member – normally the father, husband or brother – must grant permission for a woman’s study, travel and a host of other activities. Sheikh Mutlaq’s comment sparked a host of reactions on social media, including from other clerics who backed his statement. One Saudi Twitter user commented: “Chastity and morality should not be tied to a piece of cloth.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted March 29, 2018 Here is the Crown Prince even hinting that Hijab is not necessary as long as women are "decent" dressed. The young royal told CBS This Morning’s Norah O’Donnell that women should be free to choose their interpretation of decent attire, and that this should not be limited to the black abaya. “The laws are very clear. It’s stipulated in the laws of Sharia that women wear decent respectful clothing like men. This, however, does not particularly specify a black abaya or a black head cover. The decision is entirely left for women to decide what type of decent and respectful attire she chooses to wear.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites