Fabregas Posted September 11, 2008 Written by: Hamzah Moin I look forward to going to Juma prayers every Friday. It’s a chance for me to meet all my friends who are cooped in the library studying for some odd Engineering exam or they are too busy in a science lab, cheating off their peers. Yes, Juma is a time where we all cram together in one room and listen to an inspiring khutbah. Unfortunately the khutbahs can range from outstanding to just plain “what-the-hell-was-that?”. The Khateebs are also very colourful at times. Here are the different types of Khateebs you might see. The Broken English Khateeb Well it’s not really Arabic, and it’s not really English. Basically it’s a *******ization of both languages. The only thing anyone will understand is the “Assalamu Alaikum” at the beginning and the occasional grunts and screams. The Under-FBI-Watch Khateeb This Khateeb is the most extreme. One too many conspiracy theories and questionable topics in khutbah (ie. Jews are better pilots than Muslims, Christmas promotes hatred etc.) You’ll notice that a Khateeb is under FBI watch by seeing a lot more “white converts who wear black suits” in the crowd. Coincidentally, all these converts have shades on. The black suits remain at these khutbahs until the Khateeb speaks about friendlier topics (ie. Love everybody, Love animals etc.) The Angry Khateeb It appears this Khateeb woke up on the wrong side of the bed in the morning. Perhaps he stubbed his toe on the way to Juma or he spilt coffee on his thobe? Perhaps he entered the mosque with his left foot or filled up his lota with scorching hot water? It is unknown what makes an angry khateeb so angry but it’s most likely due to a sequence of regrettable events. The angry khateeb also likes to point at things when giving his talk. Basically he’ll point at random people in the crowd and proceed to scream at the top of his lungs. Once he pointed at me and screamed that if I don’t watch my wife too closely or if I commit adultery then I’ll go to hell or something. Now I’m not married so my first reaction was to blush and I was flattered that he thought I was a married man. Another quizzical thing about this was that I was only 12 years old when this incident happened. Gosh, getting married young is quite the controversial subject. The Marry-Your-Kids-Early Khateeb This particular Khateeb has a fascination to have the youth married off at an early age. He looks at school calendars and checks which days are school holidays and volunteers to make khutbahs on that day. He talks about how pornography is haram and that marrying the youth is the best thing for this ummah. Now getting married right out of high school is a bit extreme for me but this khateeb says that if you got hormones, you gotta get them in control. The only halal way to control them is to marry that cute girl in your biology class or that handsome boy you see in the cafeteria at lunch. No time to get to know them…get married NOW! The We-Suck-Today-But-Our-Past-Was-Awesome Khateeb This is the standard Khateeb. He highlights obvious points about how today we are lacking and our past was awesome. No…better than awesome. Outstandingly astonishing. But today we’re in the pits. The Khateeb will go on and on about how much we suck and describe that the main reason we’re going downhill is because our kids aren’t married or because of America holding Islam down or something. This Khateeb will also talk about how Muslims invented all sorts of gizmos and gadgets. It’ll all start off with algebra and chemistry but it’ll move on to other things like microwaves, automobiles, the wheel… I guess we invented the entire world and more. The Khateeb will then finish off how we will one day take over Rome and Islam will be glorious as the conquest of Rome is one of the signs of the Day of Judgment. Obviously it’ll happen but the FBI agents in the crowd just raise their eyebrows. The Coliseum is ours suckas. The Jewophobic Khateeb These khateebs are the most dangerous to put on school holidays but our ingenious mosques still do it. Basically these khateebs will go on and on about how Jews are treacherous and how all of them are secretly plotting to kill us or make a lot of money…possibly both. Jews probably bullied this poor Khateeb when he was younger. The Jewish bullies most likely gave the Khateeb a wedgie in junior high school. The khutbah will then turn into something like a zoo where the Khateeb starts describing Jews as monkeys, cows, pidgeons, hens and every other animal you can think of. The animal part is the only educational part for young toddlers. Otherwise keep them away from the membaar. The Ebert-and-Roeper Khateeb These Khateebs are somewhat modern and actually watch some of the movies that are currently out in theatres. Naturally, these movies have an anti-Islam agenda and have filth that our Muslim youth shouldn’t watch. Make sure you marry the youth early. The Khateeb will proceed to give a thumbs down to every movie currently out in theatres because there’s too many kissing scenes and curse words. Let the Khateeb watch movies but YOU shouldn’t watch movies. The We’re-Not-Terrorists Khateeb In case you forgot, this Khateeb will remind you that Islam is a peaceful religion and we aren’t terrorists. I think we need reminders like this every other week because we have short-term memory. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes… it sure is great to inspire our youth with people like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted September 11, 2008 oh dear lord..thank you. The angry khateeb also likes to point at things when giving his talk. Basically he’ll point at random people in the crowd and proceed to scream at the top of his lungs. Once he pointed at me and screamed that if I don’t watch my wife too closely or if I commit adultery then I’ll go to hell or something. I had an angry khateeb [female] tell me I'll rot in 'ell. My crime..? I knelt down for prayers whilst standing on my tipy toes. Kuwiinan she said, [pointing at me and few others] faraha ku taagan, ee salaada sharfayn.. :mad: :rolleyes: WTF! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted September 11, 2008 ^^One imam once said it is haram to sit any other way than crossed legged only to take it back the following week to say it is ok only on Fridays BG, you forgot the 'read dua out of a book for 5 mins' khateeb/khutba. Something I got used when working in London. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Som@li Posted September 11, 2008 knelt down for prayers whilst standing on my tipy toes and why would you do that? last night, after prayer, this guy from the mosque stood up and shouted,all those who didn't park properly, their salaath will not be accepted. :confused: Someone from the neighbor may have complained, as their driveway was blocked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nephissa Posted September 12, 2008 ^ It just feels more comfortable that way I suppose. Originally posted by Norf 1: ^^One imam once said it is haram to sit any other way than crossed legged only to take it back the following week to say it is ok only on Fridays as in cross legged Indian style sitting? waxa la rabay inu idin yiraa, gacnahana waa car kii dhulka dhigaa markuu kacaayo! . Odey dhaaxee wallee muxuu fuuto gadoomi lahaay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted September 12, 2008 ^^ Indian style mooyaan'e nin lugu dhaadheeri sidaa uma fadhiisan karo. Saf dhan baan iska xidhan lahaa hadii kale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted September 12, 2008 @Nephthys, maybe you look like a rabshoolad? @Norf, I think you are referring to the Pakistani/Hanafi khateebs who just read a khutbatul hajjah and short dua every single week? And you forgot the khutba about giving charity to the needy and at the end the general secretary or someother cleaningly shaven old man stands up saying, " brothers we need 2 million to build an extention to the masjid, all we need is 5 bounde every week, all will build a house for you in jannah, jazakallahu khayran". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted September 13, 2008 Originally posted by Dabshid: quote: knelt down for prayers whilst standing on my tipy toes and why would you do that? last night, after prayer, this guy from the mosque stood up and shouted,all those who didn't park properly, their salaath will not be accepted. :confused: Someone from the neighbor may have complained, as their driveway was blocked. I see this is an international problem with the Muslims when it comes to parking at the Masjid. My Masjid has this same problem. People are careless to where they park their cars. The Imaam and the Masjid management are out of words from telling people to park their cars accordingly. They will park their cars right afront of the entrance, restricted fire zone, afront of another car..goes on. They never ever learn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted September 13, 2008 We forgot to mention the Khateebs that give "The never-ending" Khutbahs. I seen couple of guys that actually stood up in the middle of the Khutbah to the tell the Imaam we have places to go. I hate when that happens..I just put my head down. Big haram. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted September 13, 2008 ^ understandable. Imagine you have one hour lunch break and you go to the local mosque and find yourself in this never-ending khutbah, One hour later still on. I can understand these guys but yes its xaram interrupting Khutbah and yell out at the imam, instead they should have gone to a corner and pray duhur and go silently. I have once done that, not feeling OK about that but I was forced to. Illaahay hanoo dambi dhaafo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted September 13, 2008 ^^The long speech/ bayan given in most hanafi- pakistan mousques is not part of the "khutba"; hence you see people only walk in for the last five minutes, when the Imam does a quick dua in Arabic, which is normally the same every week of the year. They took the fiqhi position that it is obligatory that the khutba must be done in Arabic, so they give a general bayan( alot of the time in Urdu), but only the last short dua is technically part of the the "khutba" itself. That's why you even see some people talking during their general bayan and those running late just turn up when the Arabic khutbatul-hajja and dua starts. They also give two Adhans during their juma, if you might have noticed. On the other hand, the Salafis ulema and others hold the position that the Khutba can be done in the language of the people. The Imams gives a lecture, but the Arabic dua and khutbatul is contained within as well. I believe White-Chapel Masjid does that in this format, these days, while most local Mosques run by hanafis does it in the former. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Resistance Posted September 13, 2008 So many Masjids are becoming conformist these days, adhering to health and safety, fire exists etc. so what happens if the fire alarms goes off while we are in prayers, will the masjids get a fine for not evacuating occordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted September 14, 2008 ^ I guess if anyone is hurt their family will have no other option but to sue the masjid. Some mosques have too much money in their bank accounts. They collect it every friday prayer or maybe after every prayer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites