maakhiri1 Posted March 28, 2018 27 Mar 2018 REPORT from UN Security Council Published on 27 Mar 2018 —View Original SC/13264 Security Council 8215th Meeting (AM) The Security Council today extended the mandate of the United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM) until 31 March 2019, as previously set out in resolution 2158 (2014). Unanimously adopting resolution 2408 (2018), the Council underscored the importance of the Mission’s support to the Somali Government‑led political process as well as the importance of its support to the federal Government of Somalia on preparations for the delivery of inclusive, credible and transparent elections. Also by the terms of the text, the Council requested continued support for the Government’s efforts to implement the country’s National Strategy and Action Plan for Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism in order to strengthen Somalia’s capacity to prevent and counter terrorism. Strongly condemning recent attacks by the terrorist group Al‑Shabaab, including on 14 October 2017 and 23 February 2018, the Council expressed serious concern at the ongoing threat posed by the group, as well as the presence of affiliates linked to Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as Da’esh) and associated individuals, groups, undertakings and entities, and reiterated its determination to support efforts to reduce that threat. Welcoming the resolution’s adoption, the representative of Somalia said while there may be nuanced differences in how the Council members assessed the current situation, they were united in recognizing the important role that the United Nations would continue to play in promoting peace and stability in his country. At the same time, he expressed deep concern that UNSOM senior officials had made erroneous statements on political issues, and was troubled by the negative impacts such statements generated in the Council and in his country. Accordingly, he urged Mission leadership to refrain from “sensationalizing” political trends. The meeting began at 10:17 a.m. and ended at 10:25 a.m. Resolution The full text of resolution 2408 (2018) reads as follows: “The Security Council, “Recalling its previous resolutions and statements of its President on the situation in Somalia, “Reaffirming its respect for the sovereignty, territorial integrity, political independence and unity of Somalia, and underscoring the importance of working to prevent destabilizing effects of regional crises and disputes from spilling over into Somalia, “Strongly condemning recent attacks by the terrorist group Al‑Shabaab including the terrorist attack of 14 October 2017, which targeted civilians in Mogadishu killing in excess of 500 people, and the attacks of 23 February 2018, expressing serious concern at the ongoing threat posed by Al‑Shabaab, as well as the presence of affiliates linked to Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as Da’esh) and associated individuals, groups, undertakings and entities, and reiterating its determination to support efforts, including through a comprehensive approach, to reduce the threat posed by Al‑Shabaab in Somalia, in accordance with applicable international law, including international human rights law, international refugee law and international humanitarian law, “Paying tribute to the bravery and sacrifices made by the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) and Somali security forces in the fight against Al‑Shabaab, commending AMISOM and the Somalia security forces for the provision of security and recognizing that security provided by AMISOM remains critical at this stage, “Commending the role of the United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM) in supporting peace and reconciliation, conflict resolution, the State formation process, the electoral process, the national security architecture implementation, a realistic conditions‑based transition plan (Transition Plan) with clear target dates, and the promotion and protection of human rights and compliance with international humanitarian law in Somalia, “Expressing its full support for the Special Representative of the Secretary‑General and Head of UNSOM, Michael Keating, and the Special Representative of the Chairperson of the African Union Commission for Somalia and the Head of AMISOM, Francisco Caetano José Madeira, “Welcoming the progress made since the election of President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmajo on 8 February 2017, including the swift appointment of a Government, the increased representation of women in Parliament and Government, commitment to economic reforms, including those needed to support re‑engagement with the international financial institutions, formal approval of the drafting of a national development plan and the mobilization of a coordination architecture to support its implementation, agreement on the national security architecture, development of a Transition Plan and the political road map, “Underscoring the need to maintain momentum towards consolidating Somalia’s federal system in this regard, welcoming the commitments of the federal Government of Somalia to one person, one vote elections in 2020/2021, underscoring the importance of making progress on the political road map, agreement on revenue collection and resource sharing, the new policing model, the justice and correction model and formalizing the status of the federal member states as soon as possible, and further welcoming the commitment of the federal Government of Somalia and federal member states as set out in the 5 November 2017 consultative meeting to reach an agreement on outstanding constitutional issues in close consultation with the Parliament within six months, “Welcoming the commitment of the federal Government of Somalia and the federal member states to pursue inclusive political dialogue to support the peaceful resolution of disputes that threaten internal peace and security including the recent efforts in Gaalkacyo, Marka and the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD)‑led reconciliation agreement between the Galmudug administration with Ahlu Sunna Wal Jama’a that confirmed Dhusamareb as the administrative capital of Galmudug, and expressing concern over continuing tension between “Somaliland” and Puntland in Sool and Sanaag, “Underlining that a capable, accountable, acceptable and affordable security sector, with full respect for human rights and the rule of law, is a crucial part of long‑term peace in Somalia, noting that progress in improving Somalia’s security needs to be accelerated and prioritized, and stressing the importance of stabilization activities, development and political and economic reforms to a comprehensive approach to security, “Welcoming in this regard agreement on the Somalia national security architecture endorsed by the National Security Council on 8 May 2017, the Security Pact adopted by the federal Government of Somalia, federal member states and all international partners attending the London Somalia Conference on 11 May 2017, consistent with the transition of the primary responsibility for security to the Somali security forces, and the renewed commitment of the federal Government and federal member states at the Somalia Security Conference on 4 December 2017, “Welcoming the federal Government of Somalia’s development of a Transition Plan with clear target dates, geographical priorities and the operational readiness assessment, with a view to conducting a conditions‑based, gradual handover of security from AMISOM to the Somali security forces, including conducting joint operations with AMISOM in order to become the primary security provider in Somalia, and calling for its swift finalization and implementation, “Welcoming the federal Government of Somalia and the international community’s commitment to a comprehensive approach to security in Somalia, and recognizing the need for non‑military approaches as part of this approach in order to achieve long‑term human security for Somalis, “Welcoming the federal Government of Somalia’s active engagement with the universal periodic review process, encouraging full implementation of all accepted recommendations, condemning the continued violations and abuses of human rights and violations of international humanitarian law in Somalia, and underscoring the need to end impunity, uphold and fulfil human rights and hold accountable those responsible for crimes involving violations or abuses of human rights and violations of international humanitarian law, “Recognizing that the year ahead should see the swift implementation of critical agreements reached in 2017, particularly the outcomes from the December high‑level meetings in Mogadishu which agreed a mutual accountability framework setting out political, economic and security priorities for 2018, agreed to map a conditions‑based transition with clear target dates and an implementation plan for the national security architecture which together lay the political, development and economic milestones for the completion of the political road map, underscoring the importance of effective implementation and mutual accountability, and emphasizing UNSOM’s central role to support implementation, “Recalling the 10 December 2017 UN Protection of Civilians report and the Conclusions on children and armed conflict (document S/AC.51/2017/2), “Expressing grave concern at the credible and continued risk of famine in Somalia as a result of the severe drought in the context of ongoing conflict and environmental factors, welcoming the federal Government of Somalia’s response to the humanitarian crisis, and encouraging further cooperation with international and national humanitarian actors to relieve immediate need and build longer‑term resilience, including for internally displaced persons, “Recalling its presidential statement S/PRST/2011/15, recognizing the adverse effects of climate change, ecological changes and natural disasters among other factors on the stability of Somalia, including through drought, desertification, land degradation, and food insecurity, and emphasizing the need for adequate risk assessments and risk management strategies by Governments and the United Nations relating to these factors; “Welcoming the generous support of donors to the Somali authorities and the Humanitarian Response Plan, encouraging further contributions to humanitarian assistance efforts, and welcoming United Nations’ efforts to coordinate the drought response and support the Somali authorities, “UNSOM “1. Decides to extend until 31 March 2019 UNSOM’s mandate as set out in paragraph 1 of resolution 2158 (2014); “2. Requests UNSOM to implement its mandate at both the national and regional level, including through strengthening further and maintaining its presence in all federal member states including in Galmudug and its administrative capital Dhusamareb, subject to United Nations security requirements and as the security situation allows, in order to provide strategic policy advice on the Somali Government‑led inclusive political process, reconciliation, peacebuilding, State‑building, including the review of the provisional federal Constitution, their preparations for the 2020/2021 elections, security sector reform and implementation of the Transition Plan; “3. Underscores the importance of UNSOM’s support to the Somali Government‑led inclusive political process, including the provision of United Nations good offices functions to support the federal Government of Somalia’s peace and reconciliation process, in particular with regard to the consolidation of the State formation, mediation, prevention and resolution of conflicts, and constitutional review processes, resource and revenue sharing, improved accountability of Somali institutions especially on anti‑corruption issues, strengthening the rule of law, including the development of an effective federal political system, and a federal justice system, and implementation of the new policing model in line with the comprehensive approach to security; “4. Further underscores the importance of UNSOM’s support to the federal Government of Somalia on preparations for the delivery of an inclusive, credible and transparent one person, one vote elections in 2020/2021 with a focus on the National Independent Electoral Commission at national and sub‑national level to fulfil its constitutional mandate, in line with the Somali‑led Operational Strategic Plan for 2017‑2021, the goal of nationwide voter registration by 2019, and coordination of international electoral support to Somalia; “5. Encourages UNSOM to enhance its interaction with Somali civil society at the national and regional level, including women, youth including through the Youth Council and the Youth Caucus, business and religious leaders, and to help ensure that the views of civil society are incorporated into the various Somali‑led, inclusive political processes; “6. Requests UNSOM to provide strategic advice to accelerate implementation of the comprehensive approach to security, including facilitating more effective coordination of international partners’ efforts to support the Security Pact, priorities of the Transition Plan, national security architecture implementation and the New Partnership for Somalia; “7. Requests UNSOM, in coordination with international partners, to continue to support the federal Government of Somalia’s efforts to implement Somalia’s National Strategy and Action Plan for Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism in order to strengthen Somalia’s capacity to prevent and counter terrorism, consistent with its international obligations, relevant Security Council resolutions and implement the UN Global Counter‑Terrorism Strategy; “8. Requests UNSOM to support system‑wide implementation of the Human Rights Due Diligence Policy across all United Nations support to AMISOM and the Somali security sector; “9. Welcomes the strong relationship between UNSOM, the United Nations Support Office in Somalia (UNSOS), the United Nations country team and AMISOM, and underlines the importance of all entities continuing to strengthen the relationship further at all levels, including through the Senior Leadership Coordination Forum; “10. Requests UNSOM to continue to implement its mandate in an integrated manner, and welcomes the Secretary‑General’s efforts to strengthen strategic integration and decision‑making across the UN system within respective mandates, including with consideration of the role of women and youth; “Somalia “11. Welcomes the commitment of the federal Government of Somalia, in accordance with the rule of law, to continue to make progress on inclusive transparent and accountable State‑building and federalism through the next phase of the constitutional review process, including allocation of powers, resource and revenue sharing, the development of a political system, and Federal Justice and Corrections Model signed on 24 January 2018, further welcomes the commitment of the federal Government of Somalia and the federal member states to work closely together through the National Security Council mechanism, and with the Parliament on these issues, building on the existing work on the constitutional review, and encourages dialogue with civil society and the Somali public, including the integration of women and youth in this regard; “12. Emphasizes the importance of reconciliation, including inter-and intra‑clan reconciliation, across the country as the basis of a long‑term approach to stability, and urges the federal Government of Somalia and the federal member states to pursue reconciliation talks at local, regional and national level, including a resumption of the dialogue with “Somaliland”; “13. Welcomes the commitments of the federal Government of Somalia to one person, one vote elections in 2020/2021, the launch of the National Independent Electoral Commission strategic plan and the commitment to develop and approve an electoral law setting out the legislative framework by the end of 2018, recalls presidential statement S/PRST/2017/3 in which the Security Council called for active steps to lay the foundation for elections in four years, and stresses the importance in this regard of the federal Government of Somalia and federal member states reaching agreement on the system of representation, decisions on voter registration, institutional development of the National Independent Electoral Commission and development and adoption of the electoral law in 2018; “14. Reaffirms the important role of women and youth in the prevention and resolution of conflicts, and in peacebuilding, stresses the importance of their full, equal and effective participation in all efforts for the maintenance and promotion of peace and security, notes that women are not adequately represented in governmental organizations at regional and national level and urges the federal Government of Somalia and federal member states to continue to promote increased representation of women at all decision‑making levels in Somali institutions; “15. Welcomes the federal Government of Somalia and the federal member states’ commitment to security sector reform, in particular the historic political agreement Somalia’s leaders reached on 16 April 2017 to integrate regional and federal forces into a coherent national security architecture capable of gradually taking on lead responsibility for providing inclusive security, welcomes the integration of Puntland security forces into the Somali National Army, the establishment and meetings of the National Security Council and National Security Office, the completion of the national operational readiness assessment, as an essential element for the right‑sizing and reform of the Somali security forces, and the commitment to undertake regional operational readiness assessments as soon as possible; “16. Welcomes the development of a realistic conditions‑based Transition Plan with clear target dates agreed by the federal Government of Somalia, federal member states and international partners and formalized on 4 December 2017 at the Security Conference in Mogadishu; “17. Underlines the importance of swift implementation of the national security architecture in order to develop Somali‑led security institutions and forces, both military and civilian, that are capable, affordable, acceptable and accountable with the ability to provide security and protection to the people of Somalia, in particular to deliver effective security and protection for women, children and persons in vulnerable situations, as part of a comprehensive approach to security, and emphasizes the vital importance of the rule of law and civilian oversight of security forces complying with international humanitarian law and human rights law as applicable, in particular with respect to ending and preventing recruitment, re‑recruitment and the use of children in armed conflict; “18. Welcomes the launch of Somalia’s National Strategy and Action Plan for Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism, the development of federal member states action plans, and calls upon Somalia to become party to the international counter‑terrorism conventions and protocols; “19. Welcomes commitments by international partners to provide additional and more effective support, including more standardized and more coordinated delivery of mentoring, training, equipment, capacity‑building and remuneration of police and military forces consistent with the Security Pact agreed at the London Somalia Conference and in line with a realistic conditions‑based Transition Plan with clear target dates. “20. Calls on international partners to strengthen coordination in order to harmonize donor support to the Somali security sector, and requests UNSOM to continue to assist the federal Government of Somalia in coordinating international donor support to Somalia’s security sector in compliance with the Human Rights Due Diligence Policy, including through coordination and advice to the comprehensive approach to security structure; “21. Welcomes the progress made by the federal Government of Somalia to meet the requirements of the ongoing International Monetary Fund (IMF) staff‑monitored programme, encourages the federal Government of Somalia to continue to fulfil its commitments to sound, transparent and accountable financial management including revenue mobilization, resource allocation, budget execution, and anti‑corruption measures, as set out in the New Partnership for Somalia, and requests UNSOM to continue to work with partners to provide support and strategic policy advice to achieve this in order to lay the foundations for inclusive and transparent elections, bolster the Government’s ability to deliver services, attract investment, and help advance Somalia along the path towards normalization with international financial institutions and debt relief; “22. Expresses concern about all violations of international humanitarian law and violations and abuses of human rights including by Al‑Shabaab and affiliates linked to ISIL, also known as Da’esh, and associated individuals, groups, undertakings and entities, calls on all parties to comply immediately with their obligations under international law and to fulfil their obligations under international humanitarian law to take all feasible precautions to avoid or, in any event minimize civilian deaths and casualties; “23. Welcomes the establishment of the National Human Rights Commission, and encourages the federal Government of Somalia to approve the appointment of the Commissioners, and implement fully the Action Plan of its Human Rights Road Map, including by implementing legislation aimed at protecting human rights and investigating and prosecuting perpetrators of crimes involving violations or abuses of human rights, violations of international humanitarian law, and conflict‑related sexual and gender‑based violence; “24. Underlines the importance of respect for international humanitarian law and the protection of civilians, especially women and children, by all parties to the conflict in Somalia; “25. Reiterates its continued concern at the high number of refugees and internally displaced persons, including persons newly displaced by the drought, expressing its serious concern at the ongoing forced evictions of internally displaced persons in Somalia, stresses that any eviction should be consistent with relevant national and international frameworks, calls upon the federal Government of Somalia and all relevant actors to strive to provide concrete durable solutions for internal displacement, and further calls upon the federal Government of Somalia and all relevant actors to strive to create the conditions conducive to the voluntary, safe, dignified and sustainable return of refugees and internally displaced persons with the support of the international community; “26. Expresses grave concern at the worsening humanitarian crisis and renewed risk of famine in Somalia and its impact on the people of Somalia, commends the efforts of the United Nations humanitarian agencies and their humanitarian partners in preventing famine in 2017, encourages all partners and donors to maintain humanitarian efforts in 2018, condemns any misuse or obstruction of humanitarian assistance, reiterates its demand that all parties allow and facilitate full, safe, rapid and unhindered access for the timely delivery of aid to persons in need across Somalia in line with the humanitarian principles, including by dismantling illegal checkpoints and removing administrative hurdles, underlines the importance of proper accounting in international humanitarian support, and encourages national disaster management agencies in Somalia to scale up capacity with support from the United Nations to take a stronger coordination and leadership role; “27. Strongly condemns all violations and abuses committed against children in armed conflict in Somalia, calls upon the federal Government of Somalia to implement fully the Convention of the Rights of the Child 1989, and the Action Plans signed in 2012, the recently adopted Somali National Army command order on the protection of children’s rights before, during and after operations and the standard operation procedures on the handover of children, and underscores the need to strengthen the legal and operational framework for the protection of children, including by ratification of or accession to its Optional Protocols to the Convention on the Rights of the Child 1989; “28. Requests the Secretary‑General to keep the Security Council regularly informed on the implementation of this resolution, identify and report on progress towards achieving key political benchmarks, including through oral updates and no fewer than three written reports, with the first written report by 1 May 2018 and every 120 days thereafter; “29. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 28, 2018 That fast or did the SFG timed the grevance vs. UAE base just with this. They (UN) repeated the part about draught, but should have added few more points for members like USA and Canada. The forecast does not look good, although not terrible, but still the IDP numbers are higher than reported. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted March 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: That fast or did the SFG timed the grevance vs. UAE base just with this. They (UN) repeated the part about draught, but should have added few more points for members like USA and Canada. The forecast does not look good, although not terrible, but still the IDP numbers are higher than reported. Not sure, but alot is happening Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted March 28, 2018 what you make of this? a message for Farmaajo and Biihi. “12. Emphasizes the importance of reconciliation, including inter-and intra‑clan reconciliation, across the country as the basis of a long‑term approach to stability, and urges the federal Government of Somalia and the federal member states to pursue reconciliation talks at local, regional and national level, including a resumption of the dialogue with “Somaliland”; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 28, 2018 maakihiri, This is a repaet except the word resumption added. The reconciliation issue is a very dangerous one. Each UN folks especially the involved ones like US, Britain, France, China and among the smaller ones Ethiopia and Gulf members of UNSC have all diffferent views on who and who need reconciliation. The main problem now is that since the Somali in America have become successful (which is good), has access to senators, congressman, secretaries etc there is clan focused information feeding. Reconciliation came up mainly to address situation of 1991/92, but now is expanding to every issue. That is terrible. It will muddy the waters and not reconcile anything. Then again what happened in 1991/2 is holding some parts of the republic and not able to move forward, yet not able to talk about it without affecting what has been achieved. Somaliland issue, I think is now becoming an issue even for the big powers to address. The SFG needs to move fast negotiate and put to bed either way. Its now a generation of Somali society born and grown up in this status. It should not wait until other powers start stating positions or suggestions which some may not make Somalilanders happy and some may not make Somalia happy. Anytime you do not face your own issue means allowing others to influence. The intra-clan is I think you can guess is meant for the two Hs in Mogadishu. They have given every SFG a headache because they want to have a clan status each of them instead of sharing the one of the four and half they want two of the four and half and practically by holding SFG in Mogadishu they get it. They change chairs and become one friend of Turkey another Egypt, one friend Ethiopia another opposite and I am sure same with Uganda or Qatar or somebody else. For the federal system to work they both need to solve power share in the 1/4.5 no more. That has been big one. I am not sure if the reconciliation for 1991/2 will be constructive now. Maybe some people who had authority at the time, official or clan or sub clan position need to be given platform to bring out some of the happenings and ask forgivemness and move on or the whole government making clear and concise apology to Bay area for the happenings there at ending of the regime and beginning of the current conflicts the eggregious ones. Since US was partly involved before Ethiopia in Bay Bakool and both have some documentation of what they found, saw or was told that chapter needs also some closing and moving on. Its another issue that may have to be done after election, since its very wide and so many issues of 27 years. Unless the government can find intellectuals, elders (better than the ones we see in parliamnet) and most importantly financing its a job bigger than forming government. Except maybe Somalis from Djibouti Kilil NFD no foreigners I would say. Its a very big, heavy and deep issue/problem and timing difficult to choose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, maakhiri1 said: what you make of this? a message for Farmaajo and Biihi. “12. Emphasizes the importance of reconciliation, including inter-and intra‑clan reconciliation, across the country as the basis of a long‑term approach to stability, and urges the federal Government of Somalia and the federal member states to pursue reconciliation talks at local, regional and national level, including a resumption of the dialogue with “Somaliland”; That is the position of the International community. The IC are not stupid about the Somalia/Somaliland issue. They know exactly where things are between Hargeisa and Mogadishu. And that Mogadishu has no legitimacy in its claims to represent all of Somalia. The UN Security Council includes the UK, France, Ethiopia, Kuwait and Sweden among others. These are very strong Somaliland supporters and they won't allow a weak non-representative foreign protected pseudo gov't to try and affect goings on in Hargeisa. The best Cheeseman will get as a response is for the resumption of the talks. That is all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Suldaanka said: The UN Security Council includes the UK, France, Ethiopia, Kuwait and Sweden among others. These are very strong Somaliland supporters and they won't allow a weak non-representative foreign protected pseudo gov't to try and affect goings on in Hargeisa. Suldaanka, The policy and stand of Ethiopia about Somaliland/Somalia is this: No war between the two for two reasons: 1. will be same result after war what could be achieved peacefully. Eritrean experience is still fresh and will remain fresh in the Ethiopian psyche. In Ethiopian case chose to be landlocked than fight to the grave for all peoples. The choice is for the Somalis and Ethiopians role is to accept and support whatever you folks agree Independence, Confederation, federation... Unitary government as a solution is not possible as it was not possible in Ethiopia. It can be safely said is the same for Kuwait. Djibouti is also the same since if you folks go to war it has immediate effect on both Djibouti and Ethiopia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted March 28, 2018 “16. Welcomes the development of a realistic conditions‑based Transition Plan with clear target dates agreed by the federal Government of Somalia, federal member states and international partners and formalized on 4 December 2017 at the Security Conference in Mogadishu; This is an important one, in case election is not hold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted March 28, 2018 I don't want to read and I am not interested . March 31, 2019 must be the last day for this mission. In my book this is the end of the trusteeship of Somalia. Then and only then would Somalis manage their affairs. Real leaders will either build their capacity to make their nation or will crumble. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted March 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Suldaanka said: That is the position of the International community. The IC are not stupid about the Somalia/Somaliland issue. They know exactly where things are between Hargeisa and Mogadishu. And that Mogadishu has no legitimacy in its claims to represent all of Somalia. The UN Security Council includes the UK, France, Ethiopia, Kuwait and Sweden among others. These are very strong Somaliland supporters and they won't allow a weak non-representative foreign protected pseudo gov't to try and affect goings on in Hargeisa. The best Cheeseman will get as a response is for the resumption of the talks. That is all. Do not confuse with the GEO-POLITICS, none of these countries want to see Independent Somaliland. What can independent Somaliland? offer them? Nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted March 28, 2018 4 hours ago, galbeedi said: I don't want to read and I am not interested . March 31, 2019 must be the last day for this mission. In my book this is the end of the trusteeship of Somalia. Then and only then would Somalis manage their affairs. Real leaders will either build their capacity to make their nation or will crumble. Welcome back to reality @Galbeedi. Now we are on the same page. With regards to "Real Leaders"... for starters, consider the next few years under Cheeseman as wasted years. The time for Cheeseman to show that he can deliver is fast becoming short and shoter. By end of this year, if Cheeseman does not change course (which is highly unlikely), the IC will publicly try to take control and if that still doesn't get any results - then mark my words - Cheeseman will be gone. My time line for that just over 12 months time i.e. Jun to Sep 2019. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted March 28, 2018 5 hours ago, galbeedi said: I don't want to read and I am not interested . March 31, 2019 must be the last day for this mission. In my book this is the end of the trusteeship of Somalia. Then and only then would Somalis manage their affairs. Real leaders will either build their capacity to make their nation or will crumble. Its understandable your thoughts, but cannot give up. Even to kick out all foreign interference you need the Somalis to do it. Its a ctach 22. You need to kick out foreigners to solve the problems, but first you need to solve at least some of the problems to kick out foreigners. Egg or Chicken. The frastration is understandable. Do you know how much Somalis in other countries feel humiliated one of these TFG or SFG fails and back to square one. Its beyond imagination, but not much can be done at the moment except hoping that this version makes it to the goal line. You know what I think. One sentence. Get out of Mogadishu. I know you don't like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted March 28, 2018 We will stay MOgadishu and clean the house. Suldaanka, what I mean is this so called mandate must end. I my book it is the end of the occupation. Nations fall, but rise from disaster on their ability and their leadership , and with help from others. Four to five billion is spent every few years and nothing to show for it. According to some reports the UN spens $55 billion is Somalia since 1991. We want to see three things. 1-The end of occupation by the UN, Amisom and others. 2-Somali national currency. Dr, Bayle promised this to happen in March and no sight. 3-Lifting of the arms embargo. Unless these objectives are reached , the great game of subduing Somalia will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites