Yusuf Garaad's memoir on his trip to Hargeisa during the height of civil war 1988

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Hargeysa - Taxnaha 89 - 90 - Qaybta Toddobaad

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Ku dhowaad dhammaan dhismayaasha magaalada saqafku waa maqan yahay. Midkii saqaf leh waxaa ka muuqda dalool weyn ama kuwo yaryar oo badan ama labadaba.

 

Gidaarrada intooda badani wey dumeen oo waxay noqdeen dhagxaan badan oo dhulka daadsan. Qaar kale in baa taagan.  Midka aan dumin waxaa ku xardhan rasaas aad mooddo in lagu naqshadeeyay.

 

Berbera waxaan dareemeyay jawi cakiran. Laakiin Hargeysa waa goob dagaal. Si dhab ah ayaad lafaaga ugu baqeysaa oo nafta ayaa diideysa.

 

Halkan ka akhri: Hargeysa - Taxnaha 89 - 90 - Qaybta Toddobaad

[maakhiri1]

late 1990 or 1988?

If it was not USC, the regime would have been still in power, in late 1990 SNM were completely destroyed as reported here and from  many other sources.

 

By the time Migadishu collapsed, not a single major town in current SL were in the hands of SNM! how? Go figure.

 

Please be truthful and stop rewriting history to suit you now.

[Barwaaqo]

Hadaan SNM jiri lahayn USC ma dhalateen! Sida warbixinta ku cad magaalooyinka waa la dumiyey , maxastii waa qaxday, intii wadkoodu galay way dhimatay, SNM na sida warbixinta ku cad magaaladda dushoodda ayey fadhiyeen. Daaquudkii SNM baa u dacaraysay inuu sii joogo.  Taageerayaashiisii sida adiga oo kale waa kuwa meelahaa ka qaaq leh , SNM waa ya dhulkeedii ka talinaysa. 

[Barwaaqo]

 

 

[Suldaanka]

1 hour ago, maakhiri1 said:

late 1990 or 1988?

If it was not USC, the regime would have been still in power, in late 1990 SNM were completely destroyed as reported here and from  many other sources.

 

By the time Migadishu collapsed, not a single major town in current SL were in the hands of SNM! how? Go figure.

 

Please be truthful and stop rewriting history to suit you now.

The USC was the brainchild of the SNM. In fact, the SNM provided the kick start funding, arms and military trainers. 

it is all about whose side that has won. The Government side was not just the gov't itself, it included a host of allied groups from Somali Aabo, to ONLF, SSDF and USP groups. 

Everyone acknowledges the Somalia Army was destroyed almost completely by the SNM. Yes, it caused a very heavy lost on the part of the SNM but that did not stop it from keeping almost 95% of the territory on its hands outside the heavily fortified army garrisons - yes they were no city or town, it was reduced to army garrison cut off from each other and only receiving supplied only from the air. 

And of course, it is part of the strategy, if the opponent had brought all his eggs to the North, and the Southern side of the country was almost complete free - it was a very smart strategy to arm and train the USC. 

This strategy is backed by the almost domino like collapse of the regime which just waiting for a knock-out punch. 

 

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One other thing, in 1990 Mohamed Siyad Barre asked the former President of Djibouti to mediate between SNM and his regime. 

The SNM's gave to Djibouti leader a precondition that Siyad Barre steps down and a new Gov't installed led by opposition forces. 

Of course, it was a condition too hard for the dictator to accept so the talks broke down. Within months, he was fleeing Villa Somalia. 

 

[cadnaan1]

Siyad barre lost because of he lost the support of the army, majority of them defected the army and financial problems.none of these amateurs jabhad USC snm ssdf could've defeated him.

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5 minutes ago, cadnaan1 said:

Siyad barre lost because of he lost the support of the army, majority of them defected the army and financial problems.none of these amateurs jabhad USC snm ssdf could've defeated him.

The writing was on the wall for the regime that it was the beginning of the end as late as 1986 when the SNM brazenly freed close to 500 political prisoners from jail. And again, freed a high level SNM military leader from the jaws of death - the day before he was supposed to be executed before public gallery. 

These string of loses, including the propaganda war which was causing the regime a lot of grief, prompted the regime to start normalising relationship with Addis Abeba - signing away the claims to Somali region of Ethiopia. 

On the day that Siyad Barre was signing the agreement in Hawasa town in Ethiopia, along with General Morgan, a call was received informing the dictator that Burao was taken by the SNM and all the regime's military slaughtered no one escaped.  

And they say the rest is history.

[gooni]

Snm guusheedu waa burburkii soomaaliya waxayna ku badaleen  xoriyaddii snm kalasoo noqotay koonfurta, May-90kii, bay u asteeyeen xuska heesaha.

Wiilashaan yar-yar Intay mujaahid beena ag fadhiyaan lagama dhaadhicin karo taariikhdaan marqaanbaa lagu qoray wax jira ma'ahan

Dalkiina iyo dadkiinu waa isku mid beel geed waabatay aqoonsi haku sugina maskaxdiina fogeeya raad arooryaad dib looma raaco, sokeeye is dilay taariikh noqon mayso.

Yuusuf garaad aragtidayda waa nin wariye fog ah oo waayo soo joogay  balse shakhsiyad mudane wasiir loogu yeero ma gaarin 4.5 dhibkay soo kordhisay bayna ka mid tahay.

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1 hour ago, gooni said:

Snm guusheedu waa burburkii soomaaliya waxayna ku badaleen  xoriyaddii snm kalasoo noqotay koonfurta, May-90kii, bay u asteeyeen xuska heesaha.

Gooni,

Dagaalkii Somali isku heshay, dadkii beenta loogu sheekayn jiray ayaa ku fashilmay. Dad badan ayaa maanta waxay dadka la so horfadhiistan aanay jirin oo la odhanayaa orod oo afka laydha ka qarso.  

Gobonimo iyo Geesinimo waa wax dhiiga ku jira suuqa lagama soo iibsado. Waqooyiga gobonimo iyo geesinimo ugu imo. Dhamaan dadkii Afwayne dabka isugu dhiibay inta geed wayn la so wada fadhiistay ayaa waa halkii Daahir Rayaale la yidhi "Wixii daanta yaal daad haqaado, Wixii Daantan taalna dabayli ha qaado" Xalay dhalay laga so qaaday wixii dhib iyo xanuun ahaa ee dadka reer Somaliland soo kala gaadhay.

Cashar fiican ka baro.  

[maakhiri1]

On 25/03/2018 at 9:55 AM, cadnaan1 said:

Siyad barre lost because of he lost the support of the army, majority of them defected the army and financial problems.none of these amateurs jabhad USC snm ssdf could've defeated him.

absolutel true, the regime was extremely financialy starved, and has been getting weak and demoralised since the defeat of 1977/78 war by Soviet Union/Cuba.

[maakhiri1]

4 hours ago, gooni said:

Snm guusheedu waa burburkii soomaaliya waxayna ku badaleen  xoriyaddii snm kalasoo noqotay koonfurta, May-90kii, bay u asteeyeen xuska heesaha.

Wiilashaan yar-yar Intay mujaahid beena ag fadhiyaan lagama dhaadhicin karo taariikhdaan marqaanbaa lagu qoray wax jira ma'ahan

Dalkiina iyo dadkiinu waa isku mid beel geed waabatay aqoonsi haku sugina maskaxdiina fogeeya raad arooryaad dib looma raaco, sokeeye is dilay taariikh noqon mayso.

Yuusuf garaad aragtidayda waa nin wariye fog ah oo waayo soo joogay  balse shakhsiyad mudane wasiir loogu yeero ma gaarin 4.5 dhibkay soo kordhisay bayna ka mid tahay.

Yusuf Garaad  runtii waa nin aqoonyahan ah, journalist weyn laakin shaati aan kisii ahayn bay ahayd markii wasaarada arimaha debeda loo dhiibey waana ku fashilmey sida uu isba qirtey 

[Old_Observer]

To my knowledge, from what I understand what I read:

USC was a cobbled up in a hurry afraid that SSDF and SNM will replace late Barre regime. The Ethiopians first contact with those leaders for USC shows this:

Ethiopians hated SSDF and were suspicious and not preferring of SNM.

Barre end came as maakhiri pointed out the war of 1977/78. There were a lot of military men that thought the war should have been done under kilil people and by kilil people, not the republic and when lose came was catastrophic. Economy is gone, no deep pocket supporter, people from euphorea of victory down to invasion of ones country.

Empires or countries all of them major war is beginning of bankruptsy if you do not win for sure, and even if you win like Britain 2nd world war you can still loose.

 

[gooni]

Suldaan

saxib waa sax geesinimo gobonimo deeq wax walba way leeyihiin balse cigaal shiidaad waxa laga hayaa beriguu sahamiyay doog iyo tigaad qurxoon waan soo arkay lakiinse xiid dhalay yaan loogu adkaysanayn (shinbiraha nooc ka mida oo qaylo dheer).

Su'aasha aan ku waydiinayo waxay tahay mar haddaad sheegatay suldaankii beesha.

Mar haddii taliskii aad la dirirteen  tagay, somaaliduna isku mid tahay dhan walbaba, sababta, qaar wixii dhex maray snm xalay dhalay looga dhigay kuwa kalana, daxal aan la mayri karin ka dhigay?

Geesiga laguu sheegayo ma'ahan ninka dagaalama sida snm kuugu sheegtay waa ninka samra yaqaan meesha dantu ku jirto.

 

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Gooni,

Awoowe, lama garanwaayin laakin wixii laga fursanwaayay ayaa la yeelay. Taa macnaheedu waa, qofka shakhsiga ah waa khamaari karaa naftiisa, laakin dumarka iyo caruurta wax lagu khamaaro ka wayn. Mustaqbalka maatida reer Somaliland mar danbe in gacan shisheeye oo gayin loo gacan galiyo waa go'aan dadkan gaadheen (Social contract). 

Boowe, sodonkii sano ee naga tagay ayaan wali qoomamayna oo aduunka kale na dhaafay, maanta cadaanka reer Yurub ayaan ciyaarta la dheeli lahayn hadii aanan il-duufin 1960kii.  

Mid aan kuu yara bidhaamiyo, dadka Djibouti dega, dhaqan ahaan waa dad wali degan oo aad ka dareemaysid sida dadkaasi u dhaqmaayo inay yihiin dad aan qax iyo hoog iyo baa'ba soo marin. Halka Hargeisa dadkeedi dhaqankii ay lahaanjireen wax badan iska bedalay oo hoogii iyo jabkii umadda loo gaystay raad badan kaga tagay. 

Waxa umaddu hada cagta saartay in dib loo so kabo oo dhanka diinta, dhanka caafimadka maskaxda iyo dhanka dhaqanka iyo dhan walba nolosha dib yagleel loogu sameeyo si dadka loogu celiyo "mental state" qaxoontiga iyo hoogii ka hor. 

Midnimo iyo Mogadishu labaduba waxay maskaxda umadda uga dhiganyihiin dib u dhac iyo hagardaamo laga soo gudbay.