disturbing news: Honor Killings.

[Jabhad]

Very good example of how uneducated the Muslims are about the true teachings of their religion. Although honor killings are relatively rare in Somalia compare to these places, they still do happen.

 

Man slays four daughters in honour killing

 

From Our Correspondent

 

BUREWALA: A man killed his four daughters by slitting their throats while they slept in their home at Qadria Colony Chak No 187/EB Gaggo Mandi on Friday night.

 

Nazir Ahmad son of Murad Ali, labourer, came to area police station to court arrest after the gruesome killing.

 

Nazir married his elder daughter Muqaddas, 22, about three years ago in Chak No 46/EB Arifwala. But her daughter’s marriage was on the brink of collapse due to tiff over domestic issues and she had come to her parent’s home.

 

During her stay at home, she developed illicit relations with a youth of the area and a few days earlier the girl eloped with the youth and returned but Nazir resented this act and plotted to kill the four daughters as he feared that other girls might follow her.

 

Last night, he intoxicated his wife and four daughters and tied them up with a rope.

 

First he slit the throat of Muqaddas and then killed three others daughters including Bano Rani, 10, Sumaira, 6, and Humaira, 4.

 

The accused after carrying out the grisly killing, spent the night by collecting woods for fire to warm himself.

 

When his wife Rehmat woke up in the morning, she raised hue and cry and people gathered.

 

Nazir confessed to the killing in his first statement at local police station.

 

He said that he killed his elder daughter for her wrongdoings and killed three others so that they should not follow their elder sister.

 

Police have registered anti-terrorism-cum-murder case against the accused under Section 302 PPC and 6/7 ATA on the statement of his wife and started investigation.

 

The accused was father of seven children four daughters and three sons.

 

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/dec2005-daily/25-12-2005/national/n10.htm

[Yeniceri]

I'm always amazed by how many different phrases all mean the same thing: murder. Things like "manslaughter" and "honor killing" - they all lead to death. Whether he killed his daughters to protect his family's "honor" or not, the id!ot committed murder, fair and square.

 

Nothing Islamic about it, though, as you mentioned.

[Allamagan]

Subxanallah! Sick people dheh!

[Caano Geel]

Originally posted by Allamagan:

Subxanallah! Sick people dheh!

indeed

[Chocolate and Honey]

sick f******er! should hunged on the spot, what is he doing in a jail?

[Khayr]

Salamz,

 

Mumia,

 

Inshallah you had good intentions to post this information and this is a dispecable, disgusting shaytanic act.

 

However, what good does this do for the IMAGE of Muslims worldwide in exposing the ROTTEN APPLES

of the Ummah to the WORLD at large.

It just feeds the negative sterotyping and type casting of muslims.

[Jafarel.]

Sick people indeed. Looks like we still living in the days of Jaahiliyah...

 

Where Religion (Islam) and Culture are in conflict, religion (Islam) must be upheld as it negates culture.

 

When will they learn???

[Urban]

Originally posted by chocolate & honey:

sick f******er!

im sure it's meant to be 'f***er' - with three *s only...

 

anyway, i've read countless stories about this type of killing, the strange thing was they were ALLWAYS committed by south asians! why? i've never heard about other muslim cultures doing the same... :confused:

[Chocolate and Honey]

Nah, I meant it the way i said it. Meaning, I doubled the curse on his cruelty and his dayuusnimo :mad: . Twice the hell fire .

[Jabhad]

Originally posted by Kheyr.

 

owever, what good does this do for the IMAGE of Muslims worldwide in exposing the ROTTEN APPLES

of the Ummah to the WORLD at large.

It just feeds the negative sterotyping and type casting of muslims.

The damage is already done. Big international news agencies such as the CNN and AP have already carried it. And this is not the first time such ugly crimes was commited by people who are claiming to be Muslims likes us. The worst thing we can do is ignore it and hope this evil crimes will go away somehow.

 

^^The above is Pakistani news website not a western or anti Muslim website.

[ZAKARIA77]

Very disturbing Wallahi (honor killing?) wats so honor for taking the lives of ur own girls?. Sick, weak,and useless soul he is. This type of heinous crime happens in that part of the world(south asia particulary pakistan)and it has nuthing to do with Islam but more with some deep premitive and backward cultures still practiced there.. Cultures which degrade girls/women status and reduce their role in society to be nuthing more than baby making machines. Thats why the slightest sin a girl commits or even a suspecion can cost her life....He should be dealt and get the punishment he deserves..

 

Dont the jordanians have similar so called honor killings?... Guess I have read article about it somewhere...Alla ka magan galney.

 

Ps: Not all the pakistan tolerate this type of things, but indeed happens in the the rural areas.

[Yeniceri]

Originally posted by Khayr:

However,

what good

does this do for the IMAGE of Muslims worldwide in exposing the ROTTEN APPLES

of the Ummah to the WORLD at large.

It just feeds the negative sterotyping and type casting of muslims.

What good does this story do for the "image" of the Muslim Ummah? Let me answer that by asking you a question: Are you more concerned for the "image" of the Ummah than their un-Islamic "actions"?

 

Exposing the truth was, is and will never be the wrong thing to do. People, Muslim or not, must know about atrocities such as this "honor killing" crap so that they can be better educated and better suited to defend against such illegal actions. But being quiet about this "honor killing" is akin to justifying it, for whatever purpose (protecting Muslims' "image" or not).

 

And the "image" of the Ummah has been stereotyped for decades, if not centuries. Maxay inoo dhinte? We still standing, ain't we?

[Khayr]

Originally posted by Yeniceri:

quote:Originally posted by Khayr:

However,

what good does this do for the IMAGE of Muslims worldwide in exposing the ROTTEN APPLES

of the Ummah to the WORLD at large.

It just feeds the negative sterotyping and type casting of muslims.

What good does this story do for the "image" of the Muslim Ummah? Let me answer that by asking you a question: Are you

more

concerned for the "image" of the Ummah than their un-Islamic "actions"?

 

Exposing the truth was, is and will never be the wrong thing to do. People, Muslim or not, must know about atrocities such as this "honor killing" crap so that they can be better educated and better suited to defend against such illegal actions. But being quite about this "honor killing" is akin to justifying it, for whatever purpose (protecting Muslims' "image" or not).

 

And the "image" of the Ummah has been stereotyped for decades, if not centuries.

Maxay inoo dhinte?

We still standing, ain't we?

On the contrary, we are falling growing more confused and disunited by the second with:

 

• no sense of HONOR

If you have honor, then you stay away from what and who is shameful and that which brings shame to you. e.g. if your sister got pregnant by her one night romance, you don't talk about that to people cause that is shameful news to you, your family, clan, somalis,muslim ummah etc.

 

• No sense of IDENTITY AS A MUHAMMEDAN UMMAH

-If a family member does something embarassing do you disassociate yourself from them i.e. the Act/Behavior are his alone, so family is not affected at all-can this be right at all?

 

-If some muslim murders another muslim, should that not worry you and sadden you? Would you love to hear that news spread to others? Would that ease the pain?

 

All that these stories do is make us more paranoid about muslims and in particular muslim brothers.

 

Yes, the actions are wrong but by giving them attention and spreading news of them, you are making it worse because you have now put negative images in people's minds and imagination. Who's to say that now that we have heard of this, someone won't imagine to replicate such shaytanic and henios acts-la qadra Allah (God NOT Willing it to happen).

 

I heard this story once...

 

One a sahabi committed Zina and came to Abu Bakr, upon which Abu Bakr said Don't tell me about such a thing...the sahabi went to Umar ibn Al Khattab, upon which Umar said to him "What did Abu Bakr say about that matter"...Abu Bakr didn't want to hear the shameful news, so Umar followed the same route...until that person took his story to the RASUL (salallahu calihe wasilm). At that point, the RASUL (salallahu calihe wasilm)had to apply the punishment.

 

Fi Amanillah

[Simply_I]

All that these stories do is make us more paranoid about muslims and in particular muslim brothers.

OH really??

[Yeniceri]

KHEYR:

 

Your comparisons don't make much sense. How can you compare illegitimate pregnancy to murder (i.e. "honor killing")? Keeping things like pregnancy under tabs to protect a family's honor is at least understandable, but hiding a MURDER is wrong in every sense of the word. What "honor" are you protecting by hiding a murderer? He mercilessly killed his children today, and if you hide him, he might kill you and your family tomorrow. So why hide him?

 

Find me the Hadith whereby the Messenger of Allah Muhammad (scw) hid murderers from public scrutiny and exposure. Then, you might have a sustainable debate.

 

Originally posted by Khayr:

No sense of IDENTITY AS A

MUHAMMEDAN

UMMAH

Come again...? I'm proudly a member of the Muslim Ummah, but what in the world is a "Muhammedan Ummah"?

 

"Muhammedan" is a derogatory term historically used by the staunchest anti-Islam people to deride the Holy Religion of its global, all-humanity nature by attributing its adherents' name to that of a single individual. The Messenger of Allah (scw) never referred to the believers of Islam as "Muhammedans" so where do you get the term from?