The Rebirth Of #Somaliland ( A memoir series)

[Suldaanka]

 

Founding fathers of the Somaliland National Movement (SNM) - the formation of an armed movement for the sole purpose of overthrowing long time Somali dictator by military means.

 

1. The Rebirth of Somaliland: History of Somaliland

2. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Process Of The Union And The Act Of Union

3. The Rebirth of Somaliland:  Northern Mistrusts And Discontents: Origins And Emergence Of Early Signs

4. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The 1961 Aborted Military Coup

5. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Formation Of The SNM And Liberation Struggle

 

 

[Suldaanka]

Absolutely, there are a lot of world powers that are literally sitting on the doors waiting to get in as soon as Somaliland gets its well deserved position among the nations of world. First of the rank that will move its military facilities are the British and Americans. The Americans can't stand the Chinese next door, and especially as Djibouti's IOG cozy up further with the Chinese both in terms of economic integration and military, the Americans will find themselves feeling like a sore thumb.

 

Anyway, I was reading the part about the 1960s Union. And it says in the agreement of the 1960s Union ( source ).  The name of the United Republic will be "Somali Republic". This was the case until the military take over 1969, when the dictator changed it to "Somalia". I believe that change itself nullified that Union altogether.

 

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Now we the signatories hereof being the duly authorized representatives of the  peoples of Somaliland and Somalia and having vested in us the power to make and enter into this Law of Union on behalf of our respective States and peoples do hereby solemnly and in the name of God the Compassionate and Merciful agree as follows:

 

1.                 (a)        The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall be the Somali Republic.
 (b)       The Capital of the Somali Republic shall be Mogadishu.

 

 

[maakhiri1]

1 hour ago, Suldaanka said:

Absolutely, there are a lot of world powers that are literally sitting on the doors waiting to get in as soon as Somaliland gets its well deserved position among the nations of world. First of the rank that will move its military facilities are the British and Americans. The Americans can't stand the Chinese next door, and especially as Djibouti's IOG cozy up further with the Chinese both in terms of economic integration and military, the Americans will find themselves feeling like a sore thumb.

 

Anyway, I was reading the part about the 1960s Union. And it says in the agreement of the 1960s Union ( source ).  The name of the United Republic will be "Somali Republic". This was the case until the military take over 1969, when the dictator changed it to "Somalia". I believe that change itself nullified that Union altogether.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Barre changed   officially country's name to  Somali Democratic Republic, and where SOMALIA came from, which was known  initially only Italian SOMALILAND, no idea, they kept using SOMALIA, till people forget the basics.

[maakhiri1]

Here stamps of ITALIA SOMALIA 

 

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/574279389964350944/?autologin=true

 

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=somalia+italia+stamp&rlz=1C1CHFX_enAU783AU783&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=M3ciEB8DqE6nKM%3A%2Ca_jrLshnDghHuM%2C_&usg=__Zq5dnZjHPogK2FA8IdtNnlXs9sY%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnvsnq9b_ZAhUGpZQKHd5ZD_gQ9QEIMTAB#imgrc=k3KkKVIzg8znpM:

[maakhiri1]

Article (a) in the constitution, is last  nail on the coffin for separation!

[Mourad1]

17 hours ago, Suldaanka said:

 

Founding fathers of the

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Somaliland National Movement

(SNM) - the formation of an armed movement for the sole purpose of overthrowing long time Somali dictator by military means.

 

1. The Rebirth of Somaliland: History of Somaliland

2. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Process Of The Union And The Act Of Union

3. The Rebirth of Somaliland:  Northern Mistrusts And Discontents: Origins And Emergence Of Early Signs

4. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The 1961 Aborted Military Coup

5. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Formation Of The SNM And Liberation Struggle

 

 

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I think that it is too early to start the process of rewriting history. Most Somalis still know it is "Somali National Movement". Moreover, this issue brings forward the striking pattern among many clan-centered organizations in Somali Peninsula, that of prioritizing clan unity over organization's mission. SNM would have taken a different a position in the mid-1990 talks and would have had a different international reaction to its declaration of independence in 1991. 

 

 

[Old_Observer]

 

 

Federation/Union Eritrea - Union Somaliland

Eritrea:

The British who by accident Eritrea fell on their lap, knew this place is not worth keeping. Maybe Maybe the British can keep Sudan happy by giving it more land western part and make their stooge (Remember they brought him by a coup in Ethiopia) king haileslassie giving him the eastern part will have port and a Tigray clans that are closer to him against the main Tigray clans that have been sore on his thumb. (1942 already the British had to bring 8,000 soldiers and planes from Asmara and Aden for haileslassie to survive the first Weyannie, that is when the name came up and started).

USA - Have already agreed behind the british with Haileslassie if they gave him Eritrea he would give them the Italian bases and communication facilities. Dulles was against this. He wanted Eritrea independent under America's influence.

USSR - Wanted to have Eritrea independent since would fall into their hands through the Italians communist party which had some branch in Eritrea, but the Russians have the Orthodox and Jewish influence at the highest so would not e end of the world if Eritrea is joined to Ethiopia like confederation.

 

Somaliland:

The British foreign office wanted to show respect to Somalis for future considerations, and serving British empire,  so Somalilanders had best influence on their future, with one exception. Since Eritreas case was not concluded and the new empires of USSR and USA have taken over the case, the British were not sure to get Haileslassie a port, but they had a port they can give him with little bribing of Somalilanders by land compensation. The Port was Zeila and a 10-20km wide land for access to it. Even the French were OK with this idea, since their preferred sector was the Afar.

Unfortunately King Haileslassie was advised by some foreign office friends to refuse this offer and he did so he was given only kilil 5 that was agreed 50 years before to be given back to Ethiopia when the British have no use for it.

 

The Union and immediate failure:

Eritrea:

The Amhara were so selfish and greedy and too untrusting as always of Tigray, so immediately took over evertything including some factories and followed policy we need ports and land not the people. Eritreans felt betrayed again as it happened by Menelik and started armed struggle 1961. Federation was disolved few months before.

 

Somalis:

Someone was so selfish and short sited, excluded all north and suspicious that the conflict was immediate. The northerners split some saying we can recover others saying no we better do something fast.

 

The difference between Somaliland and Eritrea here is there were a lot of small and big powers interested in Eritrea. On the contrary no body was interested in Somaliland except Somalilanders.

 

 

 

[Mourad1]

18 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

 

Mourad1,

 

I think I shall proceed to be "generous" in my reply to you. And in that sense, I shall say, that your argument, whatever you thought it was conveying when it was a mere "budding gist" in your thought process, seems to have lost few of its "structural underpinnings" by the time it hit the page. And it became a "written thought" for the public-at-large to examine it. Hence, sorry to say this but it's hard to make a head or tail about your argument.

 

Therefore, lets hope you shall give it a another whirl (as it were) and then tell us exactly what on earth are you getting at? As for what you "term" as a the "process of rewriting history" unless you are seeing ghost in here which no one else is privy to, I assure you, that, no one is "re-writing" anything in here. Much less said about doing it to history. So, again, tell us exactly what you see in here that is "re-writing" of history, and we in turn shall "invite" ourselves to the "privilege" of setting you straight. Go for it, mate.  

 

Fair enough. Let's proceed. 

 

It was a public secret that the SNM was a separatist organization at its core. However, even during its darkest hours, the movement maintained the facade of being opposed to MSB as its main objective.

 

I know in hindsight it is much easier to talk,  but by laying out its main objective from the start, it would have made the situation much easier. 

[Suldaanka]

28 minutes ago, Mourad1 said:

Fair enough. Let's proceed. 

 

It was a public secret that the SNM was a separatist organization at its core. However, even during its darkest hours, the movement maintained the facade of being opposed to MSB as its main objective.

 

I know in hindsight it is much easier to talk,  but by laying out its main objective from the start, it would have made the situation much easier. 

 

The SNM had no official position on the issue of independence. However, there were obviously the believe that the 1960s Union was not fair and needed to be reviewed. 

 

Any hope for revival of the 1960s union was dashed when, shortly after the overthrow of the dictator, the Mogadishu leaders declared their own government without consulting or involvment of the SNM leaders. Mogadishu folks were more interested in looting and pillaging the state organs rather than help revive the country from the brinks. 

 

That was the straw that broke any hope of a Unity's back. And as they say the rest is history. 

 

[Suldaanka]

On 25/02/2018 at 12:42 AM, Suldaanka said:

1. The Rebirth of Somaliland: History of Somaliland

2. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Process Of The Union And The Act Of Union

3. The Rebirth of Somaliland:  Northern Mistrusts And Discontents: Origins And Emergence Of Early Signs

4. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The 1961 Aborted Military Coup

5. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Formation Of The SNM And Liberation Struggle

 

 

Newly added parts.

6. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The SNM Liberation Struggle And Tactical Operations

7. The Rebirth of Somaliland: Operation Birjeex (SNM Rescue Unit)

8. The Rebirth of Somaliland: The Epoch Of Military Dictatorship And The Repression Of The North

[Mourad1]

8 hours ago, Suldaanka said:

 

The SNM had no official position on the issue of independence. However, there were obviously the believe that the 1960s Union was not fair and needed to be reviewed. 

 

Any hope for revival of the 1960s union was dashed when, shortly after the overthrow of the dictator, the Mogadishu leaders declared their own government without consulting or involvment of the SNM leaders. Mogadishu folks were more interested in looting and pillaging the state organs rather than help revive the country from the brinks. 

 

That was the straw that broke any hope of a Unity's back. And as they say the rest is history. 

 

Suldaanka, thanks for clarifying SNM's position on independence. Let me ask you this question: What do you think that caused for the movement never to have an official position on independence, fully aware of the fact that many of its members opposed 1960  Unity. 

[Tallaabo]

10 hours ago, Mourad1 said:

Suldaanka, thanks for clarifying SNM's position on independence. Let me ask you this question: What do you think that caused for the movement never to have an official position on independence, fully aware of the fact that many of its members opposed 1960  Unity. 

As a result of the genocide of the beesha dhexe by Siyaad's army, the suffering civilians were very confused and bitter but I believe that the SNM's intention was never about secession of Somaliland. Instead they wanted to replace Siyaad Barre's dictatorship with another SNM-Caydiid tyranny. However a political wizard called Cali Mahdi (God bless him) pulled the rug under their feet but also inadvertently paved the way for the break up of the uneasy union. I believe if a government of national unity which represented every clan immediately replaced Siyaad Barre's administration and relentlessly pursued all the war criminals to face justice, neither the secession of Somaliland nor the chaos in the south would have taken place and today the Somali society would very different. 

[Suldaanka]

10 hours ago, Mourad1 said:

Suldaanka, thanks for clarifying SNM's position on independence. Let me ask you this question: What do you think that caused for the movement never to have an official position on independence, fully aware of the fact that many of its members opposed 1960  Unity. 

 

I guess addressing the most immediate danger facing the people  was the primary focus.  You have to remember, taking arms against the dictatorship was a not a choice, it was a forced necessity.  

 

Hence, the independence causes  would have been a distraction rather than a help to the effort to remove the dictator from power. 

 

 

[Suldaanka]

Afwayne oo nigis yar oo Talyaani u galiyay wali gashan.

 

[Duufaan]

This is selected history. The modern Somalia history started the Berlin meeting in 1887 and different treaties signed by tribes in the north and south, followed by independent movement and the collapse of the Somali state where we are today. Anything else is nonsense until the state establish itself

The British never wanted Somaliland to be an independent country. It was preparing for while to unite north and south Somalia.  QAYBE  was the technocrat who was mostly involved and prepared the final draft of the independence declaration. He died a few years ago in Hargeisa but left a lot of documents. 

When SYL refused the British option to reunite all the 5 Somalia after war world II and chose a UN true sheep in the south Somali. The British started preparing to leave north Somali but wanted to reunite the two Somali. It was not only a public opinion at that time.

North Somalia never declared independent,   June 26, 1960, the Somalia flag has risen in Hargeysa and replaced the British one.  So in fact south united the north  July 1, 1960.