The meeting delayed the dam is going: Egypt feels outplayed, outflanked

[Old_Observer]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/egypt-accepts-delay-of-ethiopia-dam-meeting-as-protests-rage/2018/02/18/8202ed66-1492-11e8-930c-45838ad0d77a_story.html?utm_term=.570461bd86f9

 

 

Egypt cannot comprehend why the DAM construction  is going 24/7, but meeting cannot.

 

Egyptians wanted World Bank mediation NO

Egyptians wanted Sudan excluded NO

Egyptians wanted French companies analysis speed up NO

 

And now no meeting either.

galbeedi,

Egypt and your Oromo have to thumb on desk, you just have been outplayed for now, tomorrow is another day.

Tallamook,

Here we go. Why Ethiopians not in a hurry for PM. Possibility of PM returning is open. Parliament might reject his resignation. Wouldn't that be funny joke on Egyptians. The Tigray are 17 Egypt 0 in last 150 years. Amhara best friends of Egypt in a sandwitch not to be eaten. Oromo new client ddeer in headlights

 

[maakhiri1]

or Egypt is waiting and will deal whoever wins in Ethiopia!

[Holac]

Why would any Ethiopian government (Oromo or otherwise) cancel a future cash cow for the government? 

 

 

 

[Old_Observer]

The second agreement emperor minelik signed was with the British empire 1892:

 

1. Not to do any work on Nile

2. Prevent any ethiopian king or governor doing any work on Nile

 

The Egyptians filed this document at UN in 1945 the day they became member. Meles invalidated it since Menelik had no crown authority to do that without concurrence of the king of Gojjam where Tana and Nile are.

They had an argument with Mubarek, that is when Mubarek threatened a project called Tana Beles 430MW and Meles told him come and stop it.

 

 

 

 

[Holac]

OO, what would an Oromo or Amhara PM gain out of stopping a project that would create income for the central government? The construction money is already spent so there is not much spending-cut to be gained by halting GERD at its advanced stage. 

 

You not giving us the details?  

 

[Old_Observer]

14 minutes ago, Holac said:

OO, what would an Oromo or Amhara PM gain out of stopping a project that would create income for the central government? The construction money is already spent so there is not much spending-cut to be gained by halting GERD at its advanced stage. 

 

You not giving us the details?  

 

The problem now is not construction of GERD that is done, few corners left and Egypt will not stop it, but if Egypt succeeds in chaos, the next PM can agree to fill the dam in 7 years which means 7 years 4.8 billion just waiting sitting there.

The main problem now is filling it. That is when the Nile maybe reduced temporarily.

 

Sudan has said fill it as fast as possible.

If Ethiopia has its way it will fill enough to start generatin in 2 years and the complete fill in 3 years.

 

Example: Mengistu from Zimbabwe (through his daughter since he is not allowed to involve in anything about Ethiopia) issued a statement and video stating that "GERD is Weyannie conspiracy to start war with Egypt"

Weyannie answer was " We are not hurting Egypt, no reason for war. We are also not cowards like you and see our people starve. The Egyptians also know us as much as you do with your 1/2 million army in north"

 

Mengistu would be ready to fill the dam in 10 years as long as Egypt helps him overthrow Weyannie. And children of mengistu are many and would not hesitate.

 

 

 

[Holac]

Thanks for clarifying. You are correct. There are always internal enemies willing to do the bidding for foreigners.

 

I am surprised Mengistu is still agitating things behind the scenes. Why didn't the TPLF hunt him down in Zimbabwe? He starved 1 million people and got away with it. 

 

 

[Old_Observer]

Mugabe had sworn to it and had kept his word in completely keeping Mengistu as house prisoner.

In the beginning some fighters wanted to go and kill him there. A group was caught, but was simply sent back to Eritrea and Ethiopia (mixed group).

The government of Ethiopia had agreed with Canada that to avoid war in Addis Ababa the solution was to give asylum to Mengistu that way collapsing his government. That is what happened. No matter how infuriating agreement need to be honoured. The US also worked with Canada.

 

 

 

 

[maakhiri1]

And now Mugabe is gone?

 

[Old_Observer]

But unfortunately the guy who had vowed to hand Mengistu to face justice also died Changrae

The new guy will keep Mugabe's word since the army folks are the same.

 

Ethiopia has made diplomatic representation, but that is it, even that was not put in the news.

 

 

[maakhiri1]

Oo , thanks for the update.

 

[Old_Observer]

America is very serious it was not just saying the right thing to both sides

America is against the State of Emergency

 

There was a plan that was simaltaniously expected to explode in 10 major cities to bring down the government. Thanks to electronics and probably the Chinese, British may have intercepted it. All other cities was called off, but one Amhara city Gonder has stay at home.

Must have been pretty dangerous to defy America (at least state department). But American officials are also divided some have been lobbyed by Amhara DC is Amhara city. Israel almost always will be Tigray.

On a smaller scale this is also showdown Saudi Arabia/Egypt and Qater/Turkey

 

Even what you think a conflict of warlords or tribal chieftains can become international so quickly and easily.

 

QERO the Oromo Al shabab has only one call now. Make the Oromo president PM of Ethiopia otherwise we will kill you.

 

Amhara is of course still in confusion. They think they can take power from Tigray at any time future, but once it goes to Oromo its the end, because language issue is coming next immediately.