Holac Posted February 15, 2018 This is the guy the Oromos are pushing to take the helm. Their own man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 15, 2018 Will be rewarding disorder if he becomes prime minister. Will be worst one for Somali, that is the reason Jawar and company are pushing for him. First he needs to restore law and order in his kilil. We will see if they love him then. He cannot tell the people when they are wrong. Every thing they did he tried to say we have to listen to the people. A leader has to be able to tell his people they are wrong when they are wrong. That is more leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted February 15, 2018 Is he Muslim? Oromos are 50% Christian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted February 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Old_Observer said: First casualty and the intended casualty is the GERD... So why were you in denial when I was telling you that the GERD will never see the day of light —because Egypt and its allies will never allow it to go ahead as planned? 😁 I think the Tigre by pursuing the GERD project committed a fundamental mistake: Never make enemies you can’t keep! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted February 16, 2018 The GERD will go ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted February 16, 2018 10 hours ago, YoniZ said: Oodka, Th Yankees will try to limit the damage. However, there will be no functioning Ethiopia with marginalised Oromo. The Gini is out of the bottle, the under table agreements and, Tigre-Habashi qori iskudhiib will not cut with Oromo this time. Hey, here is an idea: why does it have to be a zero sum game for these competing groups? Why not create a genuine federal democracy from scratch, where each ethnic group manages it own local affairs and there is equitable power and resource sharing at the federal level? I think most ethnicities will be fine with such an arrangement except for the Amhara who we all know are stout centralist. This is, in my opinion, the only feasible manner in which Ethiopia, as it is, will stay together and not breakup. And even if, as Oodka suggested, some Western allies came in to try to assuage things by doing damage control through the switching of the Tigre regime for an Amhara regime; this will merely be— at a minimum—kicking the can down the road for another couple of years. They would eventually run out of road to kick the can down and demographic pressures of an over-populated Ethiopia would become too insurmountable to overcome, to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 16, 2018 Ethiopia 'at crossroads' after Hailemariam resignation Some describe it as a "transformational moment"; others the result of an "unprecedented" wave of protests. But whatever it is labelled, Ethiopian Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn's surprise resignation is setting the stage for a crucial succession race, that is likely to shape the future course of a country rocked by violent unrest and political instability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mourad1 Posted February 16, 2018 Ethiopia has historically had powerful allies. Back in 1991 when all regional experts concluded that the then-state of Ethiopia will totally disintegrate since a pack lead by Marxist Eritrean separatists were marching toward the capital. However, we all know what happened afterwards. Let history be a lesson for us. Russia, Britian and the US have always stood side by side with the Xabashi people of Abysinnia. This time around will undoubtably be the same. However, in the interest of the people of Horn let us reboot the Balkanization of Ethiopia that started back in 1991. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Tillamook said: So why were you in denial when I was telling you that the GERD will never see the day of light —because Egypt and its allies will never allow it to go ahead as planned? 😁 I think the Tigre by pursuing the GERD project committed a fundamental mistake: Never make enemies you can’t keep! Tillamook, No panic yet. The dam will be completed even in the worst of the worst scenario. Its location is safe even if the Amhara had panicked by its proximity to Sudan. The Tigray knew something the Amhara didn't. But still is the target. And always need to respect enemy even when weak. Another fact hard to believe for Amhara as well is Eritrea will never cooperate with Egypt on this. There are a number of economic and strategic reasons. Even if nothing else sentimental value tha great grand father of president fought and defeated Egyptians when he was Ras/Sultan in Tigray Ethiopia. Worst that can happen short term is some delay Even if all Tigray is not on earth, Sudan would actually complete it believe it or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Dahireeto said: Is he Muslim? Oromos are 50% Christian. Oromos are 15 million Moslem, 5 Million Christian Orthodox and 10 million Pentecostal and maybe million or two animist called Waqafetta. I think. He is Christian, not sure Pentecostal/protestant or Orthodox. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Che -Guevara said: Ethiopia 'at crossroads' I cannot tell you how many topics get written like that every 2 to 3 years. The man is staying. Actually the ones that wanted to overthrow the government are more in panic than the ones in government. Every Oromo that wanted to march to the palace is now lost compass and already questioning what went wrong and want calm and order to take a breather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 16, 2018 Woyanes expected to declare state of emergency. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 16, 2018 Col. Demeke (Wolkait community) to released but Woyanes are also declaring a state of emergency. The identity of Wolkait is very sensitive issue for Tigray and Amhara. Wolkait region is very fertile land. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted February 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said: Col. Demeke (Wolkait community) to released but Woyanes are also declaring a state of emergency. The identity of Wolkait is very sensitive issue for Tigray and Amhara. Wolkait region is very fertile land. This issue is dead as the one who created it king Minelik. The cover used by some Amhara groups is that this place was in another province before 1991 and Ethnic federation should be dismantled. Why they do not want ethnic federation, because the people in Welqayit are Tigray almost half half from tribes that are now in Eritrea and tribes from around Negash. Last year the Amhara and Tiray governemnt went to the area and made border, there was no clearly demarcated border. The border is in province/district called Tsegede. It was mapped during Derg what ethnic the people are and is labeled Tigray further west than Welqayit. Even from the Tigray the tribe that is most is same tribe in Eritrea. Just ask a simple question: Are the people Amhara? The answer to that will tell you everything. But when someone points out half of Afar kilil was Tigray and not a single Tigray will say it should remain in Tigray. You could be considered disrespectful of the Afar and that would be a crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted February 16, 2018 Ethiopia declared state of emergency. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites