Global Voices Leaked Documents Show That Ethiopia’s Ruling Elites Are Hiring Social Media Trolls

[cadnaan1]

https://globalvoices.org/2018/01/20/leaked-documents-show-that-ethiopias-ruling-elites-are-hiring-social-media-trolls-and-watching-porn/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[cadnaan1]

We got  one of those troll's here with us.

[Tillamook]

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lol😀

 

This is not news!

 

I assure you, Cadnaan, that not only OO but many others on Sol— now and over the years— were and are still part of the army of trolls of the Tigray online spy apparatus.

 

Their objective and mission on SOL has always been to sow discord and subterfuge upon anyone advocating for a peaceful Somalia and the interests of Somalis in general.

 

... and they do the same on many other forums and websites owned and operated by other diaspora communities of the Horn of Africa.

 

 

[Tillamook]

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I disagree.

 

Granted most Somalis on SOL are here to yap about what they perceive as the interests of their respective clans post the civil war, but I assure you behind some of them are paid Tigray agents and informants (who can be Somalis by birth too) whose job here is to cloak Tigray interests as the interests of some Somali clans— a prime example being the secessionist agenda of the Jeegan supporters.

 

Ask yourselves this: Whom does the breakup of Somalia benefit the most? Does it benefit the average reer Sheikh Ishaaq nomad or the Tigray regime who sees a resurgent Somalia a threat to its hegemony in the Horn of Africa?

[Holac]

Somaliland and Puntland, take notice. Pay the trolls or they may not defend you 100%. Only 99% will be given for free 

 

Jokes aside, this is utter nonsense. Corrupt Ethiopian elites don't have the vision to even think about helping their country's online reputation by paying social media trolls. They would rather pocket the money themselves and let the country crumble.  But even if it was true, what is the problem? Unlike all the Somali trolls who defend their clan fiefdoms here on SOL,  the TPLF trolls getting paid defending their Tigray clan fiefdom is fine with me.

 

Not long ago, I remember the opposition accusing Farmaajo of having an army of paid villa Somalia trolls harassing the opposition on social media?  Welcome to the modern world. 

[Tillamook]

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Holac, 

 

Nobody claims these trolls working for the Tigray regime are here to promote Ethiopia’s reputation in the eyes of the world. No... That was not what was being said, if you’d only paid attention.

 

I said, the cumbrous trolls we speak of are deliberately planted into the forums, blogs, websites and social media spaces of groups/communities whose general unity the regime considers a threat to their power. They sow discord and misinformation which prevents the users of these spaces to sensibly debate and discuss issues pertaining to their respective communities.

 

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Ducale, Awoowe cayda iyo aflagaadada Forumka uma wanaagsanee, ixtirimaaka iyo odaynimada yaan laga tegin. SOL rules prohibit any insult against other SOLers and the mention/insult of Somali clans.

 

[Old_Observer]

Tillamook,

 

You are giving the Tigray all kinds of credit and accolade they do not deserve or have. I will give you an example from Somalia history which exactly parallels that of Tigray.

One of the kingdoms/sultanates in Somalia fought for a year against Italy. That kingdom had an army, tax collection, administration,services, navy, etc. Was quite modern and traditional institutions. In just one year of war with Italy it lost its navy as well as even its shiping and fishing boats to bombardment by air and sea. In 5 major battles and more skirmishes lost close to half of its army. If you take away the farmer or nomad for months to do fighting, the camel economy the basis of life dies. This kingdom at the end was totally destroyed even its offices. It still did not totally disappeared morally. It was the only area that submitted to Italian rule, but kept Italians from making the place their entertainment zone.

 

Tigray is the same in Ethiopia. Only the Afar are marginally poorer. Both for same reason. Too much fighting wars. Both are poorest regions in Ethiopia. The only wealth they have that both have not lost even under tremendeous pressure, is tradition, culture, language, self government and fairly good coehesion,  all good basic characteristics for fast development. There was not a single school of any level for the Afar when EPRDF took over. Now every hamlet has elementary school, there is about 20 secondary schools and 1 university. Health also similar development, very few industries and big agricultural projects like sugar.

 

Those who try to put down a fellow Somali by calling names of foreign countries, entities etc:

Are you saying that a Somali cannot have those ideas, interests etc on their own, unless they are told by Habeshi, Arab, America, British, Italian, French etc?

That is sad on you.

Lets take example Somali kilil in Ethiopia. Its a microcosm of the Somali on planet earth in terms of clans, sub clans...

It also connects 3 current countries Djibouti, Somalia and Ethiopia. It has among its clans and sub clans whose parts in these countries are significant from leading role to influencing role. Its only natural for the Somali in this territory to have various options that he/she thinks is the best. This is not new.

When the British empire during its winding down days thought of uniting most Somali except those in Djibouti in one country (remember somali kilil was under british control until 1950s when it was given back to Ethiopia), some of the opposition to the plan came from Somali kilil. Reason is some of the bitterness from what happened between different clans and sub clans during the fighting against colonials and how easily some got along others didn't with colonialists. Remember also that this region at some point or another, at some east or west south or north of the region, has fought against Ethiopia, British empire and Italy. The French did not attempt to expand, stuck to agreement with Ethiopia.

Why can't some Somali decide the best course is stick with Ethiopia and improve our status and development here?

Why can't some Somali decide the best course is unite all Somali in one country of our own and will develop fast?

Why can't some Somali decide the best course is to be ourselves a country and will develop fast we have oil and gas?

Whay can't some Somali decide best course is each unite with your clan in whatever country it is and get rid of this kilil, since we do not seem to agree on basic issues here?

 

 

Do all these Somalis need an Arab, Habeshi, European or Somali in other regions eye to see their situation?

Do all these somalis with different opinions need Arab, Habeshi, European or Somali from other regions ear to hear the environment noise around them?

 

It might offend some of you, but black Americans call tom boy, house nigger anyone that remotely has ideas that even resemble European American ideas. Thus can never be Americans while living in America and those who can do something get out and go far from black neighborhoods.

 

The Somali is big enough in number of population, in territories to have diffrent interests. Some Somalis can grow banana in their areas and should not be forcing others that their territory is not suited to it, to know about banana and have laws and rules about it. Its enough if we just eat it. I dont have time to spend to find out how it grows.

 

Some Somalis had kingdoms, some had sultanates, others had clan chiefs and clan elders. Those of you in UK should understand English, Welsh, Scotish, Irish and even in England the north east and some other provinces. You might argue that the 4 are different ethnic, but scotish and irish are same ethnic, had same language Gaelic, yet the difference is so much that in America and Canada the Irish got "royal" (joking) treatment when they came.

 

Respect the Somali and try to analyse why a somali would support, push even fight for this or that idea.

 

 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

They are copying the Zionists and Russians bots on social media. If you for example visit Aljasiira's Facebook page, in any news about Muslims/Carabta/Bariga Dhexe, you will find the top comments hijacked by them with Nigerian/Ghanaian/Indian-sounding names, pretending to be Nigerian/Ghanaian/Indian while always defending the Zionist entity and bashing Muslims. It is so obvious how their bots and trolls work.

[Old_Observer]

Some of you have views about clan and even sub clan that is not realistic and fair:

 

Remember empires and countries are terrible at survival. They come and go depending on world security, trade etc needs. The clan and if clan is too big a sub-clan is the only nucleus of survival and continuity of people. Think of the Assyrians, such a big empire, such big an important country they had. Where are they now? Only 3 clans/tribes survive and one that was in Iraq is almost gone between American invasion times and now ISIS invasion days.

If Somali did not revert back to pre-colonial institutions, wouldn't survive. Being colonized by Britain and France, which colonies in rest of Africa do not communicate and some fight as their colonizer used to do, but the somali was at home the next day. The colonizers may have focused on different fields like education, governance in some and agriculture infrastructure in others, but the Somali became just a somali the next day. Made new writing sytem for the language and continued.

This is role of clans and clan system.

Somalia is a big country. You cannot have someone in Bari and another in Kismayu making easy communication in everything, it takes time and space, but if the two somalis are from same clan, is much easier to acquent and communicate completely while may belong to different political parties.

 

Negative side of clans is if you mainly use it to hate others in everything and forget that the individual did not select to which clan he will be born.

As the Israeli tell the Arabs " If you love your own people just a fraction of what you hate us, you could make a lot of progress". To the somali that would be if you love your clan members more than you hate other clan you could make a lot of progress.

 

Someone who loves his/her clan will never hate other clan. He she may not be friends with other clan but will not have hate.

[Tillamook]

2 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said:

They are copying the Zionists and Russians bots on social media. If you for example visit Aljasiira's Facebook page, in any news about Muslims/Carabta/Bariga Dhexe, you will find the top comments hijacked by them with Nigerian/Ghanaian/Indian-sounding names, pretending to be Nigerian/Ghanaian/Indian while always defending the Zionist entity and bashing Muslims. It is so obvious how their bots and trolls work.

 

I think this is the first time ever that MMA has ever agreed with something I have posted.😆

 

To OO:

 

You can copy and paste all the alphabet soup you like and sprinkle it with a dash of “ Somali this” and “Somali that” but that will never change the fact the Somali people of the Horn of Africa are one people, one nation and with one destiny.

 

Now take that to your Tigray pay masters!.. and while you are at it; ask them to upgrade the bot software you use—The algorithms you deploy on this site are a bit obvious and not that sophisticated.