The Dilemma Facing the Jaarso and other Oromonized Somali Tribes

[Che -Guevara]

Wrong thread.

[Tallaabo]

On ‎1‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 3:03 AM, Holac said:

The Jaarso community is confused. Even those in the video would not come out and say "WE ARE 100% SOMALI". All three in Che's video, including the old lady, are ducking the issue. 

 

The Jaarsos need to reverse that historic decision of giving away Somali land to the Oromos and adopting the Oromo language. They need to come back to their community if they don't want to be treated like Oromos. Illey probably removed the Jarso's including the hotel owner from Jigjiga for their own safety because an angry mob was running around the city hunting Oromo members. 

 

 

 

The Jaarso were probably outnumbered by the Oromo in their own towns and villages during that unfair referendum, but the result of the referendum does not change the fact that the Jaarso lost their Somali identity sometime ago due to inter-Somali tribalism. The Jaarso problem is the very real future facing the rest of the Somali people as an ethnic group. The clan animosity which has been going on for so long in our community and which shows no signs of change will eventually drive us apart and lead to each clan or group of clans becoming a nationality. Somaliland already followed the Jaarso and started the process of differentiation and divergence. Djibouti is today more French than Somali, the NFD, Baydhabo, and Jigjiga groups are not really that far behind; and eventually the HAG and D-blocks groups in Puntland and the South will agree to disagree and go their separate ways. 

[Che -Guevara]

The D and H blocks are stuck in abusive relationship. They can't live together and they can't live without each other. For better or worse, most people from the two clans have no appetite for breaking up the country or dissolving their sense of identity. They just need to learn to live together. The alternative is no option at all.

[Old_Observer]

5 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

The D and H blocks are stuck in abusive relationship. They can't live together and they can't live without each other. For better or worse, most people from the two clans have no appetite for breaking up the country or dissolving their sense of identity. They just need to learn to live together. The alternative is no option at all.

Che,

 

If we treat the D and H as the Anglo and French for Canada or English and Scottish for Britain and there is a lot of examples in Italy, France etc, Strong regional government is the key. It does not matter provinces, states... There is only one PM chair, one president chair in Mogadishu. Only a person from one clan can sit on one chair at any time. If that chair is too powerful and too interfering in daily life of the whole country, it will never be seen as ones own, will be seen as foreign to the next region.

The solution is most things should be done by region.

Some people say, if regions control too many things, they will make the country weaker and will lead to split like Yugoslavia or Soviets. What people forget is that Russia, Yugoslavia etc were top down empires, so is Ethiopia to some extent.

 

If you are going to split, spliting from centre is worst anyway. Everyone fighting Mogadishu is worst split than from federal where regions can influence each other. Ethiopia was almost lost when regions were all fighting against Addis, but now conflicts are regional and solutions are mostly regional. The rest of the Amhara region was more shocked and immediately moved to resolve what happened to the Agew/Tigray in Gonder, than Addis Ababa. The Amhara region realized that the stakes are higher for him, the danger is greater for him than to the Agew/Tigre. The Amhara actually lives more scattered than the Agew/Tigre.

The D and H have same. As long as they hide their competition, by looking to Mogadishu, the solution will be long and painful and uncknown result. But if each put house in order and compete with business, education, health, safety/security in a short time they realize they have common enemy of not having development, no education, no health, no safety and security in their locality..etc.

 

 

That is where federalism comes in. I know its looked at suspiciously by many Somalis, but the logic is simple. If you make your own house clean, up kept and organized the nation is a collection of houses, there fore the whole nation becomes organized and clean.

If every region manages to keep order and governance the way it sees fit, its easy to bring all the regions together since they will have a stake.

Hard to trust a Somali that tells you the whole country should be the starting point, while his own house or district is prone to Shabab or any other foreign influence. Or he is prone to using unsavory elements to pressure other region. The war lords have tried it, it did not work, cannot work. The least painful process is that regions put their house in order. That should be the competition, otherwise if everyone wants to control Puntland before puting Mogadishu in order, the same cycle will continue.