Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted December 28, 2017 Who will return swiftly back to Minnesota or Muqdisho and very disappointed, lashing. I am of course talking about the two dear, wise, well-learned, very knowledgeable, erudite, scholarly and, of course, giant intellectual scholars of Soomaaliya: Axmed Ismaaciil Samatar and Cali Khaliif Galeyr. It seems like the wheels of disappointments are already set in motion. Quote Cali Khaliif Galeyr oo fariin u diray madaxweynaha cusub ee Somaliland Khamiis, Diseember, 28, 2017 (HOL) - Madaxweynaha maamulka Khatumo Cali Khaliif Galeyr ayaa fariin u diray madaxweynaha cusub ee Somaliland, isaga oo ka dalbaday in la fuliyo heshiiskii maamulkiisa uu la gallay xukuumadii Siilaanyo. Wuxuu sheegay Cali Khaliif Galeyr intii ay socotay ololaha doorashada madaxweynaha Somaliland in ay is arkeen Saddexdii Musharax ee u tartamaysay xilka Madaxweynaha Soomaaliland. Sidoo kale Cali Khaliif ayaa sheegay Madaxweynaha cusub ee Soomaliland Muuse Biixi Cabdi uga fadhiyaan dhaqan gelinta heshiiskii ay wada gaareen Maamulada Khaatuma iyo Soomaaliland. Cali Khaliif ayaa ku tilmaamay Somaliland-ta cusub in ay tahay mid aan loo dhameyn loona baahan yahay in la sameeyo Cadaalad iyo sinnaan, isaga oo sidoo kale ugu baaqay in laga wada shaqeeyo Xasiloonida degaanada Somaliland. Xigasho I will give them three months, tops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoniZ Posted December 28, 2017 MMA, Jiilkaas waa kuwa Geela markii ay dayaceen reerahoodu miyi kasoo eryeen. Seeraale kadib, xoog iyo xeelad midkood waxay ku galeen Jaamacado. Walow ay dhar magaalo xiran yihiin, hadana malaha dabeecad Minnessota ama Muqdisho ay ugu noolaan karaan. Waxay u egtahay in giraantu ay halkoodii hore ku celin doonto iyo Geelii ay hore u dayaceen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted December 28, 2017 Even if Mr. Bihi tells them it is over, they may not go anywhere. The sun is good for the ageing bones. This is madadaalo for them. It keeps them relevant. It keeps them busy. The two professors are getting pension every month from America, and have no kids to raise at this time. Life is really good. Why not enjoy sunny Hargeisa as a seasonal retirement spot while staying relevant through the media every month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yunis Posted December 29, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 10:04 AM, YoniZ said: MMA, Jiilkaas waa kuwa Geela markii ay dayaceen reerahoodu miyi kasoo eryeen. Seeraale kadib, xoog iyo xeelad midkood waxay ku galeen Jaamacado. Walow ay dhar magaalo xiran yihiin, hadana malaha dabeecad Minnessota ama Muqdisho ay ugu noolaan karaan. Waxay u egtahay in giraantu ay halkoodii hore ku celin doonto iyo Geelii ay hore u dayaceen. Clever analysis of both professor's new reality. They were both noisy and obnoxious in their loathing of everything South, and are now seeing the hard truth in Hargeisa as another single clan owned entity. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted December 29, 2017 On 28/12/2017 at 12:33 PM, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said: I will give them three months, tops. 3 months? Please do not forget to update the forum after 3 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted December 29, 2017 I am not sure Samatar, it still possible he has not resigned from his teaching job, But Galaydh is retiree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted December 30, 2017 Yonis,, Somaalidu waxay tiraa ninka gawrac gartiisana sii. This men were the smartest people among their generation. They were far from being " Seeraale" ama dad xoog iyo xeeled ku galay jaamacad. Of course they have certain political weaknesses like many of us, yet, if you allow me, I have a different take of their shortcomings. Galayr was one of the early Somali students who got scholarship in America and graduated in 1965, over fifty years ago. Few years later he got his masters . So, he wasn't someone who jumped fences to reach great heights. In early seventies he was managing more than 10% of the Somali GDP as the head of Sugar production and other factories in Jowhar with thousands of employees. Now, let us get to the problem Galayr facing today. He did not create KHaatumo by accident or to lift his people from chronic political disagreements. He and Siilaanyo were friends for more than fifty years. In the early eighties, he, Siilaanyo and other who called themselves reformers but could be power hungry opportunists, tried to takeover the country through a well crafted scheme which was presented to Siyaad Barre by others. The letter was taken to Siyaad Barre by Dr, Maxamed Aadan Sheikh, a fearless reformist. They asked Siyaad Barre to appoint a prime minister to manage the affairs of the state , and they suggested Ahmed Siilanyo as their man. All those who advocated for reform including those who wanted to separate the Somali Revolutionary socialist party and the president were arrested in what Siyaad Barre called, " Laba kaclaynitii kacaanka". Fortunately, for those two, they were not on the list. Siyaad Barre called Ahmed Siilaanyo and sent him to London and asked him to dismantle the currently proclaimed SNM organization in LOndon before he could do any changes. Siilaanyo came back and told Siyaad Barre that he was unable to achieve his mission. Remember, Siilaanyo could have joined that movement while in London , and he could have escaped, yet he came backback. Through his intelligence Siyaad knew everything already and he discharged Siilaanyo from being a minister and appointed him as an adviser. Finally, Siyaad found out about both Galayr as the main character behind the scheme, but before he was arrested, he got a tip from Ahmed S, Daffle, and he left the country hasty. Galaydh commandeered a small airplane full of the salary of his agency and employees and landed in Kenya. Siilaanyo went to London after he was sacked. For two years, these two were wondering around Europe and East Africa to create something of their own. It was not until ate 1984, Siilaanyo went to Ethiopia ans started from the top. What I am getting is that Galaydh is a very smart guy, but unfortunately he is trying to resurrect something that could have been done some 35 years ago. The man he was trying to ally himself in order to create a new entity that could eventually join the union with a northern alliance , is old and senile that need to be cared. When Galaydh was rooming in Taleex country side , it was a well planned journey to eventually join Siilaanyo and wage their know scheme to be irrelevant in the Southern led Somali politics. Ma maqli jirtay markaan tabar hayeyna tal mahayn, Imika oon talo hayna tabar ma hayo. That is the dilemma Galayr is facing. His old buddy Siilaanyo is gone, and the new " Madax Faluuq Jabhad' could not understand Galyaydh or his game. THe problem is he could not let it go. He can not leave history in this way as the man who sold Khaatumo. I would like to send a message to Mr. Galaydh that not all is lost. If he comes back to us one more time, we will forgive him. We could build something different with stronger legs that could easily defeat the new Jabhad. Ninku Seeraale iyo nin geel raaci waayey ma ahane jar baa loo dagay. By the way, Hargeisa has mastered these deceptions. Someone told me that the former president of AWDal State who was celebrated and fested arounfd the world is quitely living in Borama nad married to a girl from Gabiley. THey said " Masaajidka ayuu iasago go' Shaala xidhin oo cidna granayn ku tukadaa oo dadka iska qariyaa. Sida dadka loo gato way ku ilbaxeen. Samatar is ten years younger than Galaydh and as Holac said, he has a comfortable life. He treated like star when he goes to Hargeisa. He has tenure in his university and drows good salary. Also, he is far from "Seeraale iyo dad xeelad jaamcad ku galay" . He was top in his class in Amoud, and as an 18 year old, he was number one in the exam to be a radio Mogadishu broadcaster. just after few years in Radion Mogadishu, he also won the top in the exam to join the BBC Somali service. By the way in 1969 or even 1972, those men like Mustaphe Xaaji, Idris Hassan Diiriye and others would read the English news and translate in Somali while reading the English text since the Somali language was not written. Today, the Radio announcers both in BBC and V OA could barely read Somali without hesitation. He became a dean some 25 years ago in a white dominated college, which is rare in the Somali circles in those days or even now.. Markaa nimanku Seeraale ka dheer ee xaaaldan siyaasda ee Soomaalida cusub ayaey ku wareeren. Samatar by nature is more westernized, and will never feel comfortable of a system were an elder or Suldaan appoints the ministers like Hargeisa. By the way, MMA, I heard that few days ago he was in transit in London , and he could be home in Minnesota already. Waxaan rajaynayaa waraysigii uu Soomaaliland ku baabin lahaa. Ilayn waa xadhig lama sitaanee. Isaga iyo Galaydh ba waan cafinaynaa waana soo dhawaynaynaa haddi mashruuci Soomaali weyn ay halkii ka wadayaan. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 30, 2017 Galeyr failed miserably and it seems his clan knows. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoniZ Posted December 30, 2017 Galbeedi, Saxiiib, waxa xaqiiqo aan la dafiri karin ah in ragii lixdameeyada Soomaali u kacay ahaayeen intooda badan, wiillal geela markay hayn waayeen ama abaari ku dhufatay reeraha, kadib magaalooyinka soo galay. Oday Galeyr ragaas ayuu kow kayahay, waxuu bartayna hoos uma daadegin. Sikastaba wax ha u bartaan, badawnimada kama harin maalin. Ragaa midwalba asagoo haysta darajo Professor, General iyo inkaleba, haduu xoogaa caroodo wuxuu u xuubsiibtaa, jilib murux qabyaalad iyo qalooc kasoo burqato. Alifkii qaloocdaa Albaqruu kugu dhibaa weeyaan xaajadu. Sababta aanan jiilkaa ula dhacsaneyn, waa kuwii seejiyey Soomaali, dhisida bulsho madani ah oo ku qotonta sareynta sharciga iyo ixitiraam kuwada noolaansho. Galeyr sidaad u sheegtay, wuxuu maalin cad shandad kabuuxsaday, oo aan weli laga heyn xisaab celin, hantidii umadda ay laheyd ee warshadii Mareerey. Dadbaa hadana ninkii madax kahigtay. Sideedaba waxaanu nahay umad habaaran oo aan kala saari karin midka dhaca iyo kan u tura. Xaajadu waa, war Culumada kala qabta. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted December 30, 2017 Quote I would like to send a message to Mr. Galaydh that not all is lost. If he comes back to us one more time, we will forgive him. We could build something different with stronger legs that could easily defeat the new Jabhad. 2 Galbeedi, I think his base is very angry and feels betrayed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted December 30, 2017 The doom sayers. Sxbyaal, ha karaamo seegina habaar la igu kari waaye. Galbeedi may not be aware that Khaatumo militia are now part and parcel of the Somaliland army. The implementation of the agreement will surely hit bumpy road ahead but the target is clear. Quote 1. In la helo cadaalad iyo sinaan iyo nabad ku wadada noolaansho.2. in la wada ilaaliyo jiritaanka iyo madax banaanida Somaliland.3. in khilaaf kasta oo jira lagu dhameeyo wada hadal iyo jid nabadeed.4. in la adkeeyo midnimada iyo nabad ku wada noolaanshaha.5. In dastuurka dib loo furo si loo sugo awood qaybsi ku dhisan cadaalada iyo Sinaan guddi joogto ahna arrinkaas loo saaro. 6. In dawladda Somaliland, ururada samafalka iyo hay’adaha jimciyada quruumaha ka dhaxaysa ka hawl galaan sidii mashaariic horumarineed looga samayn lahaa gobolada Sool, Sanaag iyo Buuhoodle.7. In ciidamada hubaysan ee Khaatumo la qarameeyo oo wadanku yeesho ciidan qaran oo suga xuduudihiisa, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted January 26, 2018 Well, well, well. It didn't even need a month and one professor is down. And the winner is Minnesota. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted January 26, 2018 On 29/12/2017 at 6:08 PM, Suldaanka said: 3 months? Please do not forget to update the forum after 3 months. It only needed less than a month. It is even sooner than my prediction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 26, 2018 MMA, You called it sxb Galeyr tried to rally his sub-clan to turn their guns on their brothers. He was told hit the road. Now, the question is can Somaliland depend on the local militias that are supposedly part of the forces? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted January 26, 2018 He's giving up coming to understand Habros wax iskuma ogala let alone share it with others and then realizing he has no real base either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites