65 More Somalis Killed in Oromia

[Old_Observer]

I hope not.

 

The Oromo Qero just want chaos. They were expecting Illey will do the same or send Liyu and fight. None of that happened.

The Oromo Qero expected the federal to come to every Oromo town to fight the youth. Instead the federal told the Oromo government, if you are not capable to keep law and order in Oromia according the constitution we take over.

Things are changing fast. The investigation is going to be made public, that was the condition others all except the Oromo decided.

 

According to the BBC its the Oromo police that you are calling troops, not federal. The federal are quite disciplined. So is the Liyu. The Oromo is not as organized, as experienced and as disciplined. One sergeant can do a lot of damage.

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

It would seem to me the Ethiopian Federal Government and federal forces are either losing control or letting Somalis get killed in order to further inflame this conflict. If the Federal Government fully knows and  understands the insincerity of the Oromo government/forces in protecting Somalis, then the Federal Government should move in and impose a direct control.

 

Or otherwise, this has became a case of Somali "Federal" states thumping their noses at the central government, in which case, this would essentially  mean Addis has lost control over the periphery.

[Old_Observer]

Che,

So far the only groups blaming the federal forces are Oromo and some ONLF.

One cannot hide any misdeeds by the federal forces this long and this wide. The Oromo police in some areas could have claimed they are federal.

Every Oromo police that the Oromo claimed was killed by Liyu so far, every single one was killed inside Somali region. That is a fact even the Oromo have not denied, but they say the Oromo police went to protect Oromos from Somali.

 

That is fake, for one simple reason. The Somali even the ones who lost family members and property are not for vengence or retaliation, their stand is that this has to stop. Secondly the Somali region has enough influence and power in controlling its region so that there would not be vigilante actions. There are Oromos who work in the Somali Regional government, that is the extent of the Somali practice in federal system.

 

What is happening is that the Oromo leaders hesitated. On the one hand they wanted to side with the demonstrators wanting to increase their status. On the other hand they know that if the federal system goes so goes Oromo. The Oromo would have the least chance of survival as a region. Look at the map.

 

Hesitation in matters of basic principle makes one untrustworthy by both sides. That is exactly what happened. Now the Oromo themselves have to roll back and take back every slogan raised. You will soon see the investigation becoming public, the Oromo officials apologizing and being self critical for their weakness in protecting people.

 

 

[galbeedi]

This OO does not care about facts , he will throw anything on the wall and will expect something to stick. Every time Somalis are killed, the so called federal forces were there and suddenly , just before the attack,  they vacate their positions.

 

When up 65 Somalis were killed the federal forces suddenly left the perimeter.

 

Here Garaad Wiil Waal talking about the latest killings. He said the federal forces suddenly left and the the killing started.

 

 

Che,

 

We have been killed by Oromo and TPLF. It Is a well crafted genocide of the Somali people inside EThiopia. 

 

We know that Amhara will not die for tribal or even for the power. THey are very sophisticated. Only tribal people like us and primitive peasants like Oromo will fall to the trap and create the civil war. The Somali zone is one of the largest landmass in Ethiopia, if not the largest, and Oromo being the largest ethnic group, Amhara and Tigre will be nothing, but if you create animosity and hatred between these two , then the Tigray and Amhara can breath for a while.

 

They already lost the power to control the army. In the latest security council meeting chaired by the prime minister and the defence minister and federal police chiefs, the news is bad.

 

According to Addis Standard, Two sources familiar with the meeting have told Addis Standard during the weekend that “concerns were raised by members of the national defense forces and the federal police regarding strong resistance from several parts of the public, particularly in Oromia and Amhara regional states".

 

The biggest issue is Oromia and Amhara regions. Why does Oromo and the TPLF putting us in the middle of something that  does not concern us.

 

A Harreri friend of mine who has family members in Diredawa and Addis told me that the plan by the Oromo allied with the government and the Amhara and some TPLF members want to disband and weaken the Liyu police. They are proposing a plan to disband all regional police or keep very  small number of lightly armed officers and transfer all security issues to federal army. 

 

At this difficult time if the Liyu police is weakened or disbanded, the Somalis in Ethiopia will be a sitting ducks who could be massacred by Oromo and others. The Liyu police is evil and ruthless, yet it is the only security force that could protect the Somali public or annex the land if things get worse.

 

Ninyahow, our people are in great danger, and we do not have the answers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Holac]

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At this difficult time if the Liyu police is weakened or disbanded, the Somalis in Ethiopia will be a sitting ducks who could be massacred by Oromo and others. The Liyu police is evil and ruthless, yet it is the only security force that could protect the Somali public or annex the land if things get worse.

 

I agree with Galbeedi here. The Liyu police is unnecessary evil at this point in time. 

[Che -Guevara]

Old Observer,

 

Your last post doesn't make sense. Regardless of what Oromo does, the federal government has an obligation to protect Somalis in Oromia. If the Oromo government and forces fail to enforce the law, the obligation falls on the federal government.

 

The federal government does not need to be invited to Oromia in order to save lives. You can blame the Oromo but ultimately, it is the federal's government to ensure the safety of all people. A failure to do is an abdication of responsibility or an intentional act.

[Tillamook]

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Can  you not see the ploy yet, Che?

 

What you refer to as abdication of responsibility on the part of the Tigray led federal government— to not protect Somali civilians from the Oromo massacres— is a deliberate act choreographed to turn these two  communities against one another.

 

Our resident Obscurer-in-chief who goes by the pen name Old Observer should resist the temptation to obfuscate the truth about the situation on the ground.

 

[Old_Observer]

12 minutes ago, Tillamook said:

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Can  you not see the ploy yet, Che?

 

What you refer to as abdication of responsibility on the part of the Tigray led federal government— to not protect Somali civilians from the Oromo massacres— is a deliberate act choreographed to turn these two  communities against one another.

 

Our resident Obscurer-in-chief who goes by the pen name Old Observer should resist the temptation to obfuscate the truth about the situation on the ground.

 

 

You are giving me a lot of credit that giving me a position beyond me.

 

Che,

The Federal government can go in one of two ways:

1. The regional government calls for it

2. The federal cabinet determines by recorded and publicly announced meeting. Its based on report and or recomendation of the federal police.

 

 

[Old_Observer]

JAWAR MOHAMED AND HIS QEERROO GOONIES WERE BEHIND THE DARU LEBU MASSACRE AND HERE IS THEM ADMITTING

 JAWAR MOHAMED AND HIS QEERROO GOONIES WERE BEHIND THE DARU LEBU MASSACRE AND HERE IS THEM ADMITTING

 

JAWAR MOHAMED AND HIS QEERROO GOONIES WERE BEHIND THE DARU LEBU MASSACRE AND HERE IS THEM ADMITTING

 

 

‘Today, we the Qeerroo [a clandestine group that is getting increasingly active in Oromia and undertaking local gov’t structures] of
Habroo and Daaloo districts as well as the City Administration of Galamsee headed and gathered at Hunde Dhaba Kebele of Darku district to show our support and solidarity to the families of the men [armed militia] who were selected from different districts.

We also wanted to have a word with the large armed men that are headed to Daru Lebu [disrict] to defeat their enemy [in this context all Somalis in Western Hararghe Zone (WHZ) and assure them that we will take care of their families [in case they die in the midst of this mission to massacre Somalis in Daru Lebu of WHZ].

So, the ‘Qeerroo’ [ originally started in East Hararghe and means ‘youth’ or ‘Shabab’ in Arabic]  and their elders pledged those who are leaving for battle [a month later a massacres have happened in Gadullo of Daru Lebu district and other localities] that they will take care of their families and gave them Br. 2490 worth of financial support.

Note by Jawar on the message: ‘These Qeerrroo are the ones who send me this and they deserve to be emulated. They also asked me to share this message on Facebook.’

So, if anyone has a sliver of doubt that Jawar Mohamed and those so-called activists are vanning the flames of ethnic tensions in Ethiopia, here your answer.

[galbeedi]

OO, please do not try to interpret events for us . We can differentiate the difference between your propaganda and what others write. WE do not speak Afaan Oromo , yet we know that what Mr. Jawar said is totally different than what you have inserted there.

 

Again, just write exactly what he wrote in English without adding your peace then we can discuss.

 

Also, when Tilamook said you are the chief obscurer, it was not a compliment or being a chief , he meant you  are  chief in misleading.

 

Further more , you said, 

 

Che,

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The Federal government can go in one of two ways:

1. The regional government calls for it

2. The federal cabinet determines by recorded and publicly announced meeting. Its based on report and or recommendation of the federal police.

 

 

Well, Ethiopia is not Canada or US where states and provinces call help from the federal government  during disasters. Oppressive Ethiopian armies are all over the region  killing innocent people around the country. They do not need to come from Addis.  They are everywhere to rule by gun, so please spare us that the tigre led army will 'need a cabinet approval to intervene. 

 

 

 

[galbeedi]

The Ormo are not that stupid to use  " Al-shabab" like name to further their political future. Why would any entity in the horn of Africa use the name of a terrorist organization known around the world as evil and criminal entity  that  murders civilian in east Africa. 

[Old_Observer]

galbeedi,

There is no need for me to try to give bad name to Jawar. He does that by himself. He is bad already.

QERO means Al-Shabab hard to believe but fact.

 

I am not sure who is the "genious" that came up with this, but its now a fact no incredibility can change.

This did not come from Somali, South Ethiopia or Amhara diaspora, but the Oromo themselves.

 

 

 

[Tillamook]

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Old Observer, please desist from spreading such malicious and sly innuendo against the Oromo on this forum.

 

Your gig is up and we all see you for the cheap purveyor of anti-Oromo propaganda that you are. So just stop it, ok!

[Tillamook]

3 hours ago, galbeedi said:

The Ormo are not that stupid to use  " Al-shabab" like name to further their political future. Why would any entity in the horn of Africa use the name of a terrorist organization known around the world as evil and criminal entity  that  murders civilian in east Africa. 

 

Galbeedi, this silly organization he’s talking about is a creation of the Tigray regime that’s meant to sow discord and confusion amongst the Oromo opposition. 

[Holac]

Here is a video from opposition website.  The Amhara opposition websites are referring to the protestors as Qero (Youth)?

 

Anti-government protests against the brutal Ethiopian regime spreading throughout Ethiopia. This short video clip shows the street fight between the Oromo youth (Qero) and ‘Agazi’ forces (the regime death squads) in the town of Moyale, border of Ethiopia and Kenya.

 

https://ecadforum.com/2017/12/14/ethiopia-oromo-youth-qero-fighting-tplf-on-the-street/