Saalax Posted May 12, 2017 Dubai Ports World- 65% Ethiopia - 19% Somaliland - 16% Xukuumadda Somaliland Oo Saaka Ku Dhawaaqay In Dawlada Itoobiya Saami Ku Leedahay Dekeda Magaalada Berbera Iyo Xadiga Saamiga La Siiyey Hargeysa(Ramaas)May.11,2017-Xukuumada Somaliland ayaa waxay saaka ku dhawaaqday in dekeda magaalada Berbera saami laga siiyey dawlada Itoobiya oo maanta si rasmi ah loogu wareejin doono shirkada Dp World . Wasiirka wasaarada Ganacsiga Somaliland Dr Cumar Shuceyb oo saaka u waramey Idaacada BBC-da ayaa waxaa uu shaaciyey in xukuumada Somaliland ay Saami ka siisay dawlada Itoobiya Dekada Magaalada Berbera si ay u isticmaalaan. Saamigan ayaa waxaa uu wasiirku ku sheegay in ay tahay 19% ( Boqolkiiba Sagaal iyo Toban ) waxaana shaacintani ay ku soo beegmaysaa xili ay maanta xukuumada Somaliland dekada Magaalada Berbera maamulkeeda si rasmi ah ugu wareejineyso shirkada Dp World waxaana uu yidhi. https://ramaasnews.com/xukuumadda-somaliland-oo-saaka-ku-dhawaaqay-in-dawlada-itoobiya-saami-ku-leedahay-dekeda-magaalada-berbera-iyo-xadiga-saamiga-la-siiyey/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted May 12, 2017 @Oodweyne said: It's still a good deal compare to how much Somaliland will likely to benefit from it, in-terms of scale of volume of trade it will facilitate when it's fully upgraded and fully functional. Which means, by the tonnage it will be in a position to facilitate, the current share of the revenue that will accrue to Somaliland is much higher than what Somaliland used to receive it when the port was fully state-owned enterprise (SOE) at the hand of Somaliland's government. Carabta gartayee, Xabashida maxaa meesha keenay? How do you justify that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 12, 2017 @Haatu said: Carabta gartayee, Xabashida maxaa meesha keenay? How do you justify that? The Ethiopians are going to be the main customers of the port. Without the huge landlocked Ethiopian market next door the Arabs would not be investing in Berbera. Moreover, as the Ethiopian cargo traffic to Berbera increases, more and more other international shipping lines will also come to Berbera making it a transit and trading hub. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 12, 2017 In what world is a country paid to use a port? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 12, 2017 I doubt the Ethiopians will honor that "30% exports/imports from Berbera port" anyone that thinks Ethiopians can be trusted is very gullible, it was just few weeks ago when they threw Sland under the bus . It is very sad that Somaliland doesn't even own a majority share in its own port anymore rather the least (16%). This will create a revenue problem for the future Sland governments which is what Kulmiye intended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barwaaqo Posted May 12, 2017 Share DP word- 51% Somaliland -30% Ethiopia -19% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 12, 2017 So, they essentially lied to the public? Have the Ethiopian actually invested in Berbera Port? If they did under some bilateral negotiation, that's understandable and in essence perfectly legal. But if there is no such agreement in place, this is violation of sovereignty or the very least abuse power and corruption by the elites. I have never heard a transit state having to pay a land-locked state for the use of its ports. Under international laws regarding access to the sea, a transit state cannot impose tariffs on goods that travel directly to the land-locked state. There is one exception and that the transit state can impose fees that will cover the cost of maintaining infrastructure. But nowhere does it say a land-locked state can share profits from transit ports unless there is explicit agreement which bring back to the question, what have Ethiopians invested in Berbera Port? Or is there comprehensive agreement includes customs agreements? I wonder what's in Bosaso agreement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted May 12, 2017 @Tallaabo said: The Ethiopians are going to be the main customers of the port. Without the huge landlocked Ethiopian market next door the Arabs would not be investing in Berbera. Moreover, as the Ethiopian cargo traffic to Berbera increases, more and more other international shipping lines will also come to Berbera making it a transit and trading hub. The Ethiopians are merely clients with no ownership rights unless they have invested in the port, in which case they will partners just like DP World.. The only thing that they are entitled to is the expectation that Ethiopian imports going directly to Ethiopia won't taxed apart from infrastructure maintenance expenses as stipulated in the laws regarding the access to seas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted May 13, 2017 @Che -Guevara said: The Ethiopians are merely clients with no ownership rights unless they have invested in the port, in which case they will partners just like DP World.. The only thing that they are entitled to is the expectation that Ethiopian imports going directly to Ethiopia won't taxed apart from infrastructure maintenance expenses as stipulated in the laws regarding the access to seas. You are correct that Ethiopia has no right to claim any share in the joint venture without investing in it but I guess the logic of this agreement is to get Ethiopia which will be the only client worth mentioning to divert a sizeable portion of its import-export business from Djibouti to Berbera. It is the same logic as a company selling its products at an unprofitable price to promote its brand and beat competition in the short to medium term. Remember Ethiopia has access also to the ports in Sudan and Kenya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barwaaqo Posted May 13, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqq5tr2g7SY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadnaan1 Posted May 14, 2017 @Barwaaqo said: the worst job one can have is been spokes person for failing president,,,, doqonka camerada soo hor istaagayo waa asiga oo been iyo doqonimo u hadlaayo good example : sean spicer and this siilaanyo spokes person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhagax-Tuur Posted May 14, 2017 This is a stab in the dark, so to speak, could the reason why Ethiopia has shares in the port be taking responsibility/guaranteeing 'security'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites