Che -Guevara Posted October 2, 2016 The International media is saying dozens, but people on the ground say the number is much higher. Woyane regime is beginning to unravel as people are no longer fearful. Several Ethiopian bases in Somalia have been dismantled in the past three months; soldiers are heading to Oromo and Amhara regions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted October 2, 2016 Fear is the what keeps dictators in power. If the gene leaves the box it is all over. Look at the Soviet Union, it was the fear of the communist party the kept people in line and as soon as that fear disappeared , it collapsed. $40 million Oromo rebellion will be hard to control. We are all busy watching crazy lunatic Trump and Mogadishu , but this is going to be the story of 2017. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 2, 2016 Should Ethiopia fall apart, would Somalis be able to take advantage of the situation? We have never been the ones to take advantage of an oppurtunity. Should they lose power, TPLF will declare independence and Oromo are for secession too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted October 2, 2016 This is exactly like former Yugoslavia, artificial nations put together by the allied powers. Che, this is huge . That " Shanta Soomaaliyeed", which our fathers dreamed for long time might be possible. This is a change of the century for Somalis. The empire that would have disappeared in 1974, after the down fall of Emperor Haile Salaase , was kept alive by a communist dictatorship until 1991. When Menguistu was overthrown by the TPLf in 1991, Meles and his army could not enter Jigjiga. They thought the Somali guerrilla fighters who challenged Minigistu before the TPLf would probably there. according to eye witnesses, they waited almost few months before they realized that the so called Somali lion was not there anymore . They could not believe what they found. They found a community fragmented by the Somali civil war that does not have any coherent army or political strategy. An old man by the Name Makhtal told meles to leave the land and proposed independence., but just like the Somali peace conferences of the nineties Meles dragged his feet, bought some time and eventually got his way. As soon as the Tigray declare their independence , we should declare ours too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted October 2, 2016 Imagine 2 million people gathering for festival. This Oromo is really something unusual. They will get their independence soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted October 2, 2016 I see Cabdi Illey declare independence and defend the land . As soon as the Tigray declare independence , he should make peace with Oromo and recognize one another. Then hold a quick referendum and join the Somali union. Then within a year send 10,000 Liyu police to Mogadishu and finish off the cat and mouse game of Amisom and Al-shabaab. Biciid kanan dili doono subagiisa ma dhami. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 2, 2016 Galbeedi, The Tigre is genuinely fearful of the Amhara, as crazy as it might sound Somalis and Tigre might be forced by necessity to be allies along with Afars (necessity does wonders sometimes), in other words numerically inferior nations that could be overwhelmed by Oromo and Amhara will have to swallow their pride and set their differences aside, at-least for awhile. There are moments that define history, in our case it was loss in 77, the coup, Barr'es attack on Mudug and Waqooyi Galbeed, and the night when northerners were rounded up and killed in cold blood. The event that took place today might be just moment for Ethiopia, You are right the shanta might finally be free though they might not be under one state. I can see Ileys exerting his power with the help of the Woyane, but where will the ONLF fit in this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted October 2, 2016 This is most likely the beginning of the end. Ethiopia is unraveling at unprecedented speed. Will Ogaden declare independence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted October 4, 2016 No one should get over excited about the possibility of Ethiopia falling apart. If Ethiopia disintegrates like the former USSR and Yegoslavia and then each entity declares independence then nothing will stop the international community from adding Somaliland to the mix of new nations. Moreover, the kililka shanaad will not be able to function as an independent state as it mirrors the former Somali Republic will all its clan animosity and mistrust of power and politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 4, 2016 One would think you would welcome an Independent Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Ahmed Posted October 4, 2016 indeed the situation in that fake made up country called ethiopia-amhara land has reached a fever pitch! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted October 5, 2016 @Che -Guevara said: One would think you would welcome an Independent Somaliland A part of me (head) hopes to see an officially independent Somaliland; and another part of me (heart) wishes that the Somalis were blessed with a bit more sense and intelligence so we could be like any other ethnic group in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 5, 2016 Tallaabo, unfortunately this generation of Somalis are not blessed with those traits. So, it is better to have two or three stable Somali lands than one big failed Somalia. But I do hope Somalis unite in the long run, if not under one state but possibly integrate economically and politically, some sort of union with sovereignty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites