US accused of killing 22 troops in air strike misinformed" by Cowards

[malistar2012]

Somalia: US accused of killing 22 troops in air strike

Security official says Americans were "misinformed" in a request that came from regional rival to hit al-Shabab.

 

Al-Shabab denied it had any fighters in the area of the air strike [Farah Abdi Warsameh/AP]

An American air strike in northern Somalia killed as many as 22 soldiers, an official from the region alleged, suggesting the United States had been duped into attacking Somali troops.

 

The Galmudug region's Security Minister Osman Issa said 22 of his soldiers had been killed in the early Wednesday strike, adding the rival region of Puntland had requested air suport on the pretext that the men were al-Shabab fighters.

 

"Puntland misinformed the United States and thus our forces were bombed," Issa told Reuters news agency.

 

In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis told reporters the United States had carried out a "self-defence air strike" after Somali troops took fire from fighters as they tried to stop an improvised explosive device making network.

 

Davis said nine al-Shabab cadres were killed in the strike, but the Pentagon was looking into reports that it could have killed others.

 

"We will look at the reports to see if they are credible, and if they are credible we'll investigate them," Davis said.

 

[malistar2012]

Galmudug Officials speaking in Jeexdin.

 

Bari and Nuggal admin are thirsty for blood and choas

 

they have shown and proven they do not want to live in Peace with their Neighbours

 

coward are only good for running

 

Gass and his admin will soon flee Galkacyo

[Holac]

Galmudug needs to rid itself of terror cells.

[Ahmed Sacid]

Niyoow i didnt think Puntland was this coward

[galbeedi]

Hello guys, Good Friday,

 

I hope by now the emotions of the Mudug incident have calmed down compared to yesterday. Sometimes, it is wise to wait and gather the necessary information before shooting a comment.

 

Now, let us look carefully on the Mudug drone strike and those who were involved.

 

First of all, the Americans do not ask anyone's permission to strike those they deem to be terrorist or armed non state actors rooming the land. They did hit Al-shabaab leaders and other enemy fighters in Jubbaland, Shabeelle, Bay, Bakool and Gedo. Neither the Somali government nor others are consulted. On that note, The Mudug drone strike is not different than those taken by the Americans. Also, you would not hear anyone from the local forces or the so called Somali army complaining.

 

Second, there are American trained and paid strike forces that operate in many Somali regions including Puntland and Galmudug. These forces have their own command and control who are independent from the local administration.

 

For example, the Puntland based PS forces are among the best trained forces who have engaged Al-shabaab forces in Galgala mountains and other parts of Puntland. Few years ago A/raxman Faroole tried to replace the head of the PS general Osman Dayaano. The general refused. How can you fire someone whom you do not pay his salaries and equipment. Faroole even traveled to America and asked the state department and others to coordinate their security efforts with the Puntland leadership. Nothing was offered and the PS of Puntland is still independent from the local militia.

 

The American defense department and it's overseas military operations has it;s own policy of making security alliances with those it considers effective against insurgents and terrorists. They closely ordinate with Kurd's in Iraq, Shia militia in Iraq and some Afghan tribal warlords. Even during Cabdi qaybdiid's term in Galmudug, there were some American funded troops there.

 

So, to make the story short, some militia connected with Galmudug, fired some shots few nights ago around the Gaalkacayo airport perimeter and fled. American drones were following the movements of certain wanted members of Al-shabaab in the area . The information about the group came from Galmudug intelligence members and the Puntland PS forces. As of now , the Americans claim to have video of the strike and wanted members who were captured in this operation.

 

Also the Americans consider any threat against the PS and those who are at the forefront of the fightagainst Al-shabaab as a threat to themselves, thus they act decisively when they detect any unknown movements in the area.

 

I hope some of this information will calm down the nerves . It wasn't like C/weli or the Puntland government asking for help to destroy Galmudug forces. I know there are some who are trying to take advantage of this incident and wipe tribal animosity between neighbors.

 

Remember , whether it's the president or the prime minister , Somali leaders have no say of the movements and operations of the foreign troops, let alone Puntland . If it was the PS who were responsible for the strike, , you must know they are not under the control of Puntland.

 

Puntland ayaa Maraykanka keentay wax soconaya ma ahan.

[Tillamook]

Galbeedi,

 

The problem here is the audacity of the typical moryaan-hutu mentality these days.

 

Laakin usheeg saaxiib, maanta wakhti la isku soo duubto afka ma aha!?

[galbeedi]

According to a British news paper, the British government are sending more troops to Somalia. Most people did not see the report, but the British explicitly said that their main goal is to train regional armies who are more effective against al-shabaab. They accused the Somali army of being controlled by " Soviet era generals' who are outdated.

 

They will be concentrated in Lower Shabelle and Bay regions. So folks , there will be more strikes against many Somali militia's if they do not clean themselves of Al-shabaab menace.

[galbeedi]

Tilamook, I really, checked this information carefully.

 

You can not wipe the women and children with misinformation. This is really a good wake up call for Galmudug. I heard that because of the huge truck bombs that hit Gallakcayo, brought some focus to that region. there will more drones, and Even secretary Kerry commented about that huge truck bombs

[Che -Guevara]

Everyone is setting up shop in Somalia.

 

Alla Ha Unaxariisto intii dhimatey.

 

Galmudug needs to address these issues. It is not acceptable that attacks are planned and orchestrated from their domain.

[Tillamook]

^

Che, please put a lid on your naïveté for a sec.

 

Culusow and the abortion he put together called "Galmudug" are Al Shabab, and they deliberately have chosen to use terrorism as a tool to achieve their political objectives.

 

But this is Somalia, and the tribes of Somalia know one another very well.

 

Moryaanimo by any other name is still Moryaanimo. They can keep switching shirts all they want... they ain't fooling no one.

[gooni]

intii dhimatay allaha u naxariisto

 

waa sax galbeedi arintu waad sidaad u sheegtay balse waxaad ka booday khaladka dhabtaa meeshuu ka jiro

 

maraykanku wuu iska laayaa muslinka asagoo sheega inta badan inuu ku khaldamay

 

aroosyo iyo dad reer guuraa ahba iwm

 

cidda u shaqaysa iyo ciidankuu mushaarka siiyana amarkiisa kama hor imaan karaan.

 

iskusoo duub

puntland khaladkay gashay waxaa weeye.

 

Qirashada iclaamka ay soo hor istaagtay oo dusha saaratay dagaal aysan shaqo ku lahayn

 

shacabka soomaalida maanta qabiil laguma dagaal gelin karo

 

Maamuladaan gawracan yaa ku rafanaya umadda, reer puntland ma ogola in shacab soomaaliyeed la xasuuqo.

[YoniZ]

https://horseedmedia.net/2016/09/30/maxaa-keenay-in-maraykanku-duqeeyo-galmudug-video/

 

Above piece looks credible explanation of what happened that night in Jeexdin. (you need of course to deduct some of the usual Maryooley bias, but this builds picture of the event)

 

It seems, someone in the Galmadug admin had misjudged, the reaction it will create threating PSF base near Galkacyo airport, where US personnel are also present.

 

To put the blame squarely on PL is desperate reaction to say the least. When it comes to that sort of missions, Both PSF and Danab get orders first from the Yankees, and not necessarily from Garowe or Mogadishu .

[malistar2012]

@galbeedi

said:

Hello guys, Good Friday,

 

I hope by now the emotions of the Mudug incident have calmed down compared to yesterday. Sometimes, it is wise to wait and gather the necessary information before shooting a comment.

 

Now, let us look carefully on the Mudug drone strike and those who were involved.

 

First of all, the Americans do not ask anyone's permission to strike those they deem to be terrorist or armed non state actors rooming the land. They did hit Al-shabaab leaders and other enemy fighters in Jubbaland, Shabeelle, Bay, Bakool and Gedo. Neither the Somali government nor others are consulted. On that note,

The Mudug drone strike is not different than those taken by the Americans. Also, you would not hear anyone from the local forces or the so called Somali army complaining.

 

Second, there are American trained and paid strike forces that operate in many Somali regions including Puntland and Galmudug. These forces have their own command and control who are independent from the local administration.

 

For example, the Puntland based PS forces are among the best trained forces who have engaged Al-shabaab forces in Galgala mountains and other parts of Puntland. Few years ago A/raxman Faroole tried to replace the head of the PS general Osman Dayaano. The general refused. How can you fire someone whom you do not pay his salaries and equipment. Faroole even traveled to America and asked the state department and others to coordinate their security efforts with the Puntland leadership. Nothing was offered and the PS of Puntland is still independent from the local militia.

 

The American defense department and it's overseas military operations has it;s own policy of making security alliances with those it considers effective against insurgents and terrorists. They closely ordinate with Kurd's in Iraq, Shia militia in Iraq and some Afghan tribal warlords. Even during Cabdi qaybdiid's term in Galmudug, there were some American funded troops there.

 

So, to make the story short, some militia connected with Galmudug, fired some shots few nights ago around the Gaalkacayo airport perimeter and fled. American drones were following the movements of certain wanted members of Al-shabaab in the area . The information about the group came from Galmudug intelligence members and the Puntland PS forces. As of now , the Americans claim to have video of the strike and wanted members who were captured in this operation.

 

Also the Americans consider any threat against the PS and those who are at the forefront of the fightagainst Al-shabaab as a threat to themselves, thus they act decisively when they detect any unknown movements in the area.

 

I hope some of this information will calm down the nerves . It wasn't like C/weli or the Puntland government asking for help to destroy Galmudug forces. I know there are some who are trying to take advantage of this incident and wipe tribal animosity between neighbors.

 

Remember , whether it's the president or the prime minister , Somali leaders have no say of the movements and operations of the foreign troops, let alone Puntland . If it was the PS who were responsible for the strike, , you must know they are not under the control of Puntland.

 

Puntland ayaa Maraykanka keentay wax soconaya ma ahan.

Somali General Ali Bashi confirmed that members of the local forces were killed in the strike, which he described as a case of "friendly fireSomalia's government has requested an explanation from Washington for a US airstrike which it says killed more than 20 people. .

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[malistar2012]

US to Investigate Deadly Strike in Somalia

 

October 01, 2016 2:11 AM

Carla Babb

U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter speaks at a press conference during a defense ministers meeting of ASEAN countries, Sept. 30, 2016 in Kapolei, Hawaii.

U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter speaks at a press conference during a defense ministers meeting of ASEAN countries, Sept. 30, 2016 in Kapolei, Hawaii.

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KO OLINA, HAWAII —

The U.S. military will investigate conflicting reports on Wednesday’s deadly U.S. airstrike in Somalia, U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter said.

 

“In this instance as in all instances, when questions are raised about the actions of U.S. airstrikes, we pursue them,” Carter told reporters during a news conference in Hawaii.

 

Carter said the U.S. had not yet looked into this particular airstrike, but would share the results once an investigation is complete.

 

He added that there was no other military more committed to the “principles of openness and transparency and accountability” than the United States.

 

“That also acknowledges the fact that there have been mistakes made over time and we try to stick to, stand up and hold ourselves accountable when that happens,” he said.

 

Somalia's government has demanded an explanation from the United States for the strike, which Somali officials said killed 13 members of local government forces in Galmudug, a Somali federal state.

 

The Pentagon said in a news release Thursday that a "self-defense" strike near the town of Galkayo killed at least nine al-Shabab militants.

 

Galmudug state Vice President Mohamed Hashi Abdi told VOA's Somali service that the American forces were "misguided" by a request that came from officials in the semi-autonomous Puntland region.

 

Regional Security Minister Osman Isse Nur also blamed intelligence forces in the neighboring Puntland administration for giving the U.S. incorrect information.

 

Residents in Galkayo protested the strike Thursday by burning the U.S. flag.

 

The U.S. has carried out numerous airstrikes in Somalia targeting al-Shabab members, including a missile strike that killed the group's former emir, Ahmed Abdi Godane, in 2014.

[Samafal]

Gooni Correction: Puntland did not claim strikes so far except low level officer who I heard has been disciplined. No minster or senior officer ever claimed to be orchestrated from Puntland. I think Galmudug was quick to nail the blame on Punland. Wixii dhintay Allah unaxariisto somalidana Allah mideeyo.