Coup is now underway in Turkey. Erdogan's whereabouts unknown

[ElPunto]

@Holac

said:

I could not stomach watching CNN, FOX and even the EU chanels.

 

It is really amazing how biased the Western media is.

 

Did you see that? So much for democracy and NATO ally etc. Gaalo - they will never be your friends. On the other hand - Erdogan needs to know that being the Putin of Turkey doesn't do the country any good.

 

Given all this - Turkey should be very cheap to visit now - hmmm - *will need to look*

[ElPunto]

This is what passes for objective analysis in the west:

 

'Rule No. 2 in planning a successful military coup is that any mobile forces that are not part of the plot — and that certainly includes any fighter jet squadrons — must be immobilized or too remote to intervene. (Which is why Saudi army units, for example, are based far from the capital.) But the Turkish coup plotters failed to ensure these loyal tanks, helicopters, and jets were rendered inert, so instead of being reinforced as events unfolded, the putschists were increasingly opposed. But perhaps that scarcely mattered because they had already violated Rule No. 1, which is to seize the head of the government before doing anything else, or at least to kill him.

 

The country’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was left free to call out his followers to resist the attempted military coup, first by iPhone and then in something resembling a televised press conference at Istanbul’s airport. It was richly ironic that he was speaking under the official portrait of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of Turkey’s modern secular state, because Erdogan’s overriding aim since entering politics has been to replace it with an Islamic republic by measures across the board: from closing secular high schools so as to drive pupils into Islamic schools to creeping alcohol prohibitions to a frenzied program of mosque-building everywhere — including major ex-church museums and university campuses, where, until recently, headscarves were prohibited.

 

Televised scenes of the crowds that came out to oppose the coup were extremely revealing: There were only men with mustaches (secular Turks rigorously avoid them) with not one woman in sight. Moreover, their slogans were not patriotic, but Islamic — they kept shouting “Allahu ekber” (the local pronunciation of “akbar”) and breaking out into the Shahada, the declaration of faith.'

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Saa maalin dhawayd ugu damqaday, ugu walwalay dal shisheeye afgambi ka dhacay waligey uguma walwalin sidaas. Laakiin waa Eebbe mahadiis inay fashilmeen, oo afgambigooda dhicisoobay jaajuustii iyo basaasiintii la rabay inay Turkiga ka dhigaan si dalal badan oo Islaamka ah ka yeeleen iyagoo u adeegaayo dano shisheeye oo cadow Muslim ah.

 

Nooloow Rajab Dayib Erdogan - waligaa jir oo joog, cadowgaa jab oo jiif.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

@ElPunto

said:

This is what passes for objective analysis in the west:

 

'Rule No. 2 in planning a successful military coup is that any mobile forces that are not part of the plot — and that certainly includes any fighter jet squadrons — must be immobilized or too remote to intervene. (Which is why Saudi army units, for example, are based far from the capital.) But the Turkish coup plotters failed to ensure these loyal tanks, helicopters, and jets were rendered inert, so instead of being reinforced as events unfolded, the putschists were increasingly opposed. But perhaps that scarcely mattered because they had already violated Rule No. 1, which is to seize the head of the government before doing anything else, or at least to kill him.

 

The country’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was left free to call out his followers to resist the attempted military coup, first by iPhone and then in something resembling a televised press conference at Istanbul’s airport. It was richly ironic that he was speaking under the official portrait of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of Turkey’s modern secular state, because Erdogan’s overriding aim since entering politics has been to replace it with an Islamic republic by measures across the board: from closing secular high schools so as to drive pupils into Islamic schools to creeping alcohol prohibitions to a

frenzied program of mosque-building everywhere

— including major ex-church museums and university campuses, where, until recently, headscarves were prohibited.

 

Televised scenes of the crowds that came out to oppose the coup were extremely revealing: There were only men with mustaches (secular Turks rigorously avoid them) with not one woman in sight.

Moreover, their slogans were not patriotic, but Islamic — they kept shouting “Allahu ekber” (the local pronunciation of “akbar”) and breaking out into the Shahada, the declaration of faith.'

 

Ahahahahaha. Ciil ayee u dhiman rabaan. Warbaahinta Reer Galbeed dharka ayee iska siibeen maalin dhawayd, cheerleading the coup and calling Erdogan 'authoritarian' -- this by the 'liberal' Reer Galbeed media, iskaba dhaaf kuwii kale.

 

Xataa the Guardian, a fine newspaper I respected, were in restrained jubilant in their live feed reports until it became increasingly the coup failed, which by then they slowly stopped updating the live reports as frequent or worse, selectively reporting the coup still on, just to keep their pipe dreams and wishes on.

 

The worst was on Reddit's leading front page threads. Muslim iyo Islaam necbaa dadkaas. Maba xishoodaan, Abuulahab ayee isoo xasuusiyeen. A million abuulahabs. Yaa u sheego Abuulahab alone was more influential in his day than a billion of them living today, and yet he still couldn't extinguish the light that is diinteena suuban ee Islaamka.

[maakhiri1]

I was watching Aljazeera and CNN at same time, and could not understand why CNN got basics wrong, they were reporting the protesters came out in support of coup, that was BIG failure.

 

[galbeedi]

Those in the western media who are rooting for the coup and kicking Erdogan, probably do not know the evil of Turkish coups of the past. They were more bloodier and ruthless than we have seen for the last 35 years.

 

According to Turkish media , here are the facts of 1980 coup.

 

 

The Turkish Parliament was dissolved, the Constitution was revoked, all political parties were shut down and their assets were seized.

650,000 people were taken into custody

230,000 people were put on trial

1,683,000 people were blacklisted

Military prosecutors demanded the death penalty for 7,000 people

517 people received the death penalty

50 people were hanged

The military rule revoked the citizenship of more than 14,000 people

388,000 citizens were denied Turkish passports

30,000 people fled Turkey to seek refuge abroad

299 inmates died in prisons due to "indeterminate" reasons

14 inmates died in hunger strikes

171 people died under torture

3 journalists were killed

4,000 years of prison time was requested for 400 journalists

31 journalists were jailed

Newspapers could not print for 300 days

39 tons of newspapers and periodicals were destroyed

 

how can anyone wish this for their countries.