Gheelle.T Posted May 19, 2016 This is a great read: What is curious is that Western policymakers know that Ethiopia and Kenya are not honest brokers in Somalia, and yet continue to give both major seats at the table, to tolerate their excesses in the country and fund their activities. But no nation is keen to send peacekeeping troops to Somalia, a country that, after all, humbled even the US Delta Force in 1993. While there is no political alternative to al-Shabaab in the country without the protection of AMISOM, the West will continue to need partners and will continue to foot the bills of whoever is willing to do the dirty work. - See more at: http://newafricanmagazine.com/al-shabaab-still-exist/#sthash.va17A3oc.dpuf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted May 19, 2016 It is a nice read. Even the so called outsiders are getting to know the Somali project. meesha waa loo soo shaqa tagaa. Imisann ku celecinay. The main points are well known to all. "In short, a political economy based on counter-terrorism needs a terror group in order to survive ". "The SNA fails to develop because the government embezzles the funds in order to fund patronage needed to stay afloat and to pay off al-Shabaab to avoid being killed ". "Under such circumstances, all the actors have reconciled themselves to the existence of al-Shabaab and have trimmed their operations to match." Now who would clean the house from mercenaries, oligarchs, and the corrupt overseers. Remember , Damujadiid was the product of the NGO;s . They used to create projects which in turn were financed by the donors. THey never built or created one single job while they were in Mogadishu for the last 10 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted May 20, 2016 Very good read. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted May 20, 2016 Maxaa ku dhacay baresare (barfasoorkii) siyaasadda Soomaaliya aad ula socday markee Maxkamadaha soo shaac baxeen 2006. Maqaallo joogto ah oo aragti dheer uu ka qoray Soomaaliya 2006-2011. Nin Reer Mareykan ah uu ahaa laakiin magaciisa ii gooye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted May 23, 2016 Miskiin, haddii aa ka hadlayso Professor Micheal Weinstein of Purdue University, ninkaas wuxuu dhintay 2015. Mid kale oo Maraykan ahi waa Ken Menkhaus, kaas wali wuu ka qoraa Somaliya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted May 29, 2016 Haa, Geelle. Micheal Weinstein ka hadlaaye. Ma siibtay, maba ogeyn. Waxaaba islahaa isqabqabsiga siyaasadda Soomaaliya aan dhamaad lahayn uu ka caajisay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted June 1, 2016 Good article. Though I don't agree that people join Shabaab because of mistreatment at the hands of security forces per se. At the beginning, Shabaab targeted and recruited marginalized folks with no other economic options but now it is morphed into just a simple salary. I don't think it would take much to defeat them but there is no real will by the Federal government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted June 3, 2016 Elpunto, you're absolutely correct. Having watched some of the videos of the AS kids captured by PL in the recent skirmishes, I gleaned that most of them joined the group for money. I remember one of the older guys saying he used to draw about $30 a month salary. That sounds decent salary for a poor uneducated person, methinks. There are also some who joined them out of ideology, but I think majority of them are either coerced to join them or are in for the money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted June 4, 2016 Of course ideology might be among the top guys , but the foot soldiers are paid by Al-shabaab system. $30, 50, or $100 dollar is a big salary. Many of them are asked to do minimal tasks like info gathering and transporting weapons to targeted places. Money is delivered through their cell phones. They might not even know the target. Suicide bombers are mostly mentally challenged or brain washed kids. Somalis are not that complicated on these issues. They get paid and they do the job they are asked. It is all about money. Only a well financed group managed by outside intelligence could only procure laptops, cars and other expensive equipment and launch one after another every week or month. It is not few or couple of cells,. They may own hundreds of save houses for operational purposes. You need a well paid security officers to follow each lead, not these incompetent boys in Mogadishu. The intelligence agency chief is a thirty years old man from who never worked in any police, security or intelligence service. he can go as far as his can reach, but eventually his incompetence will catch up to him. It reminds me of when Siyaad Barre made his Son in-law Morgan a general, while he was in his late twenties. The state department released it's terrorism report country by country and stated: “Somalia lacks the funding and capacity to investigate and prosecute incidents of terrorism financing,” the State Department observed in its country-by-country report on terrorist activities last year. “The judicial system remained weak and underdeveloped, suffering from minimal inter-agency coordination and a lack of capacity and technical expertise,” the report added in its generally negative assessment of Somalia's own ability to combat Al-Shabaab. “Ministries responsible for drafting and submitting legislation to Parliament lacked the capacity to draft comprehensive counter-terrorism laws,” the US stated. When we say Hassan Sheikh must go, it is all about competence and backbone. He works overtime when he needs to replace a prime minister, and will not stop until he reaches his goal. How many people have to die because of their incompetence. more than seven or eight similar bombs have taken place in the last seven months. People , let's just demand change of leadership or keep going to these constant funerals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Ahmed Posted June 9, 2016 alshabab is just a war machine,they just want war war war and never ending war,it is up to the locals to decide their future.the pigs shabab are the real wood of hell-fire. they just know how to attack somali civilians in the hotels,ethiopians,kenyas are eating icecreas in their sectors and rarely they face shabab dogs,the dogs of hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites