xabad Posted March 11, 2016 Well worth the read. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35695648 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 11, 2016 A moderate Islamic narrative today is a Muslim Brotherhood narrative , which has been destroyed by the Gulf states supporting the military coup in Egypt," says Prof Moussalli, referring to the Egyptian military's ousting of the elected President Mohammed Morsi, a senior Muslim Brotherhood figure, in July 2013. "We lost that opportunity with Egypt. Egypt could have paved the way for real change in the area. But Saudi Arabia stood against it, in a very malicious way, and destroyed the possibility of changing the Arab regimes into more democratic regimes that accept the transfer of power peacefully. They don't want it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 11, 2016 Good read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted March 11, 2016 A moderate Islamic narrative today is a Muslim Brotherhood narrative, which has been destroyed by the Gulf states supporting the military coup in Egypt,” says Prof Moussalli, referring to the Egyptian military’s ousting of the elected President Mohammed Morsi, a senior Muslim Brotherhood figure, in July 2013. “We lost that opportunity with Egypt. Egypt could have paved the way for real change in the area. But Saudi Arabia stood against it, in a very malicious way, and destroyed the possibility of changing the Arab regimes into more democratic regimes that accept the transfer of power peacefully. They don’t want it Brotherhood same as Salafi/Wahabi ideology both fighting for supremacy, removing the brotherhood sect and that lunatic Morsi was the Best thing that happened to Egypt/middle east, Saudi Salafi's support accidental. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 12, 2016 ^ I highlighted that because of the delusions of the professor. His view was shared by the Obama administration at one time. MB is the same as IS, its has a more gradual long term view and uses less violent means but desires to achieve same end goal which is sharia and Islamic theocratic state. Morsi was not in power for one year and they were discussing Jizya on Copts who are 10 percent of Egypt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 12, 2016 Mohammed Morsi has been Egypt's president for less than a month, and already senior clerics in his country and around the Islamic world are loudly calling for the demolition of the pyramids, Egypt's most important tourist attraction and among the Seven Wonders of the World. Saudi Sheik Ali bin Said al-Rabi'i called them heinous "symbols of paganism." In recent days, similar calls have been echoing through Egypt and the region, including one from a Bahraini sheik who urged Morsi to "destroy the pyramids and accomplish what the Amr bin al-As could not." He was referring to the Prophet Muhammad's companion who conquered Egypt in the seventh century but didn't have the technological wherewithal to accomplish the task. Who want to share a planet with this animals, let alone a religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted March 12, 2016 @xabad said: Who want to share a planet with this animals, let alone a religion. What you get when the fringe dwellers extremist run the show as its happening all around the Islamic world now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted March 13, 2016 "And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], "Worship Allah and avoid Taghut." And among them were those whom Allah guided, and among them were those upon whom error was [deservedly] decreed. So proceed through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers." (Quran 16:36) As indicated in this verse, Almighty Allah advices the Muslims to visit the monuments and remains of ancient civilisations and learn about their history and how Allah dealth with those who rejected the truth. I don't see the logic of blowing up such previous reminders of our past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 13, 2016 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/world/middleeast/to-maintain-supply-of-sex-slaves-isis-pushes-birth-control.html What a harrowing read. Just how evil can one be in the name of Islam. Pitiless animals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted March 13, 2016 I always thought these were sexually frustrated sickos. Al-Shabab practices a benign version or maybe not so benign version, forced "marriages". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 13, 2016 @Che -Guevara said: I always thought these were sexually frustrated sickos. Al-Shabab practices a benign version or maybe not so benign version, forced "marriages". The sad thing is they have solid religious justification and grounds for their actions from the Qura'an and Xadiith. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted March 13, 2016 @xabad said: The sad thing is they have solid religious justification and grounds for their actions from the Qura'an and Xadiith . Xabad is drifting again ... towards bashing Islam. Give it up saxib. You will never ever change someone's opinion about Islam on this website. It is more rewarding for you to share things you have in common with other Somalis - politics, poverty, development, education, injustice, life in the West, etc. Religion is a complicated topic, and you are only making yourself look silly by repeating the same lines over and over again. It diminishes your talent saxib. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 13, 2016 ^ Your very angry. You may be a covert Islamist, waan kaa shakiyay. I definitely think your DJ. Why else would you waffle like that when Daesh is bashed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted March 13, 2016 ^lol There is a difference between targeting Daesh/UGUS and trashing the core values many of your forum friends hold dear. UGUS and Daesh are not Islam. How these cult members interpret and use religion doesn't provide anyone the moral justification to belittle the Koran and Hadith at every opportunity. It is what FOXNEWS does on a daily basis. I don't really want to get into a meaningless religious debate since you will never change my mind and vise versa, but I just hope that we can show respect towards one another as Somalis. Like many others have said before, let us talk about values we have in common. Religious debate will never move the needle on either side. I have seen many others try with no results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted March 13, 2016 ^ You need to calm down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites