Haatu Posted February 22, 2016 Also in NFD, there's a variety in dialects. Some speak the standard Northern dialect in a Southern accent (same as reer Jubba), some speak Af Booran, and some speak a dialect very similar to Banaadiri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 22, 2016 <cite> @Miyir said:</cite> It means some communities in the south Somalia speak a northern dialect that doesn't mean Somali as a language originated in the north Somalia. According to experts, Af Maay is actually the precursor for modern standard Somali. This brings me to something. Why is standard Somali called Northern Somali when it's spoken in all over the Somali lands? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted February 22, 2016 Hutu, are you majoring in linguistics ? Afaan Booran is spoken by Garre's only. All the Somali clans in NFD speak a peculiar accent, not Southern, not Waamo, waa wax iyaga ugaar ah. I have noticed an improvement in their Somali since Qaxootis came over. The presence of their brethren has done them a world of good, they've become assertive politically and economically. Waxay heleen confidence. Wajir folk particularly have taken to Somalis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted February 22, 2016 <cite> @Haatu said:</cite> According to experts, Af Maay is actually the precursor for modern standard Somali. This brings me to something. Why is standard Somali called Northern Somali when it's spoken in all over the Somali lands? Add other South Somali dialects spoken in the South only Jiidu, Tuni, Gare, Dabare. Gare speaks a Somali dialect, hard to understand dialect but not Borana. Have You heard Dabare or Jiidu dialects? Af Maay speakers wouldn't understand. Standard Somali is spoken mainly in the Centre of Somalia, I meant the BBC Somali as you Call it lol, North, east and South Somalis speak Standard Somali with a tinge of local dialects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted February 22, 2016 <cite> @Miyir said:</cite> Add other South Somali dialects spoken in the South only Jiidu, Tuni, Gare, Dabare. Gare speaks a Somali dialect, hard to understand dialect but not Borana . Have You heard Dabare or Jiidu dialects? Af Maay speakers wouldn't understand. Standard Somali is spoken mainly in the Centre of Somalia, I meant the BBC Somali as you Call it lol, North, east and South Somalis speak Standard Somali with a tinge of local dialects. Once again, Miyir speaks on things he has no knowledge of. Those that reside in Kenya and Ethiopia - i.e the majority of Garres - speak Afaan Oromo/Borana. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted February 23, 2016 <cite> @xabad said:</cite> Once again, Miyir speaks on things he has no knowledge of. Those that reside in Kenya and Ethiopia - i.e the majority of Garres - speak Afaan Oromo/Borana. The Gare in Somalia speaks Somali Gare dialect similar to other Somali dialects in the South. understandable as you said those living next Boran or Oromo communities speak Borana/Oromo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted February 23, 2016 Jimca waraa jiraa, sabtiyaa ka daran baa la yiri. Xabad, ma anaa maanta lahjadda reer NFD i bari? Anyway, lets just enjoy this nice saar. You should see Garissa on the night election results are released. Intii geel la qalo ayaa habeenkii oo idil saar la tuntaa. Of course the losing clan doesn't take part Sometimes, dadka qaarkood intey bururaan (jibboodaan) oo xamaasadda la tagto ayey bilaawad isku jarjaraan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted February 23, 2016 <cite> @Haatu said:</cite> Jimca waraa jiraa, sabtiyaa ka daran baa la yiri. Xabad, ma anaa maanta lahjadda reer NFD i bari? Anyway, lets just enjoy this nice saar. You should see Garissa on the night election results are released. Intii geel la qalo ayaa habeenkii oo idil saar la tuntaa. Of course the losing clan doesn't take part Sometimes, dadka qaarkood intey bururaan (jibboodaan) oo xamaasadda la tagto ayey bilaawad isku jarjaraan! Saxiib, you have another agenda Me and you both know lahjadda NFD, so let's leave it at that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted February 25, 2016 I am with Xabad on this, NFD folk speak dialect that's slightly different than that of reer Waamo. What in the world does "ceel aa la duri" mean lool and "bilcaan aa la ii tuugi" Btw, there is nothing wrong with the dialect it's just not southern or Waamo as Haatu claims! As for the Garre, the ones I see here in the US speak Orama language or something close to it. Oramada iyo iyaga si caadi ay isku af fahmaan..They either speak the same lingo or their languages have common roots/similarities for them to understand each other with ease. Anyway, I don't think there is any standard Somali dialect we could all agree on, it's just a preference I guess. For me, if it's girl, get to be Reer Borama!! And reer Mudug with a tinge of western OG dialect, more like the Idaajaa narration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted February 25, 2016 Dacar= plant, most likely the Aloe Vera plant.. Perhaps the plant tastes bitter hence the reference "Dacar ka kharaar/qaraadh." Galow- micnaheeda ma aqaan saxda ah, laakiin dadka kor ka imaada aa la dhihi jiray kaas galow waaye! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 9, 2016 @Gheelle.T said: I am with Xabad on this, NFD folk speak dialect that's slightly different than that of reer Waamo. What in the world does " ceel aa la duri " mean lool and " bilcaan aa la ii tuugi " Btw, there is nothing wrong with the dialect it's just not southern or Waamo as Haatu claims! As for the Garre, the ones I see here in the US speak Orama language or something close to it. Oramada iyo iyaga si caadi ay isku af fahmaan..They either speak the same lingo or their languages have common roots/similarities for them to understand each other with ease. Anyway, I don't think there is any standard Somali dialect we could all agree on, it's just a preference I guess. For me, if it's girl, get to be Reer Borama!! And reer Mudug with a tinge of western OG dialect, more like the Idaajaa narration. Firstly, there are multiple different dialects in NFD. Each qabiil speaks slightly differently. Secondly, have you guys ever met an Cab.dalla person from Badhaadhe and one from Masalaani? One is from 'Waamo' Somalia and the other from Ijaara NFD. Are you going to tell me they don't sound the same? Thirdly, when I say southern, I don't mean exactly the same as Hiiraan or Xamar. I view Southern as a large umbrella category. Our accent has more in common with the wider Southern accents than Banaadiri, Waqooyi, etc. The Garre from NFD basically speak Af Booran (Oromo). When I think of standard Somali, I basically think of Idaajaa as well. He seems to have a very neutral, well refined accent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 9, 2016 A collection of all the ereybixin the different ministeries came up with when the language was written. A true treasure trove: http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream/2307/4175/3/Diiwaanka%20Ereybixinta%20Af-Soomaaliga_Qaybta%201aad.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 9, 2016 The first Somali book written by a Somali, by the Old Sage Muuse Galaal: Hikmad (Xikmad) Soomaali: http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream/2307/2059/1/hikmad%20Soomaali.pdf NB: It's in both Somali and English. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted March 9, 2016 Sport games in Somali - Isboorti Af Soomaali Athletics - Bardooddan Athlete - Bardooddame Badminton - Kubbad-baal Bowling - Luuf/Liif (wuu liifey/wey liiftey) Canoeing - Tartan-huuri Decathlon - Tobanley Discus throw - saxan seeraaris Fencing - seef-ku-lool Handball - gacan-daar High jump - booddo sare Hip hip hurrah - hirrow Hockey - xeego Hurdles - tartan hakasho Javelin throw - riddo Long jump - booddo dheer Obstruction - isku gudub Offside - dusmo Pentathlon - Shanley Pole vault - qori-ku-bood Polo - kubbad fardood Racket - ul Relay race - tartan meerto Rowing - seebin Spring board diving - qori-muquur Sprinting - Fagax/Dhababaco Steeplechase - tartan qardajeex Tennis - taanish Tournament - wareegto Volleyball - kubbad-gacmeed Weightlifting - hinjin (wuu hinjiyey/wey hinjisey) Wrestling - lagdan Yachting - tartan doonyaad http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream/2307/4175/3/Diiwaanka%20Ereybixinta%20Af-Soomaaliga_Qaybta%201aad.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted March 9, 2016 Very interesting book by a great sage. Marka la leeyahay " Nin Qayrkay ah", In this context it may mean more than the age. mostly it used to suggest : He is my equal , meaning strength , power or education. Waar waa nin qayrkaa ah ninkan hawshan qabtay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites