Somali Trans Murdered

[Che -Guevara]

I am aware of the sex reassignment in Iran. Khomeini laid the ground work by granting Maryam Molkara's (early campaigner for transgenders in Iran) request for sex change.

 

Other Muslim countries are also somewhat tolerant of transgenders, like Hijras in Pakistan. That said, I have not seen any ruling derived from the Quran or Hadiths that endorses transgenderism. The only mention are effeminate men who are to be left alone as long as they don't act on their sexual desire.

[Miyir]

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@Che -Guevara

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I am aware of the sex reassignment in Iran. Khomeini laid the ground work by granting Maryam Molkara's (early campaigner for transgenders in Iran) request for sex change.

 

Other Muslim countries are also

somewhat tolerant of transgenders

, like Hijras in Pakistan. That said, I have not seen any ruling derived from the Quran or Hadiths that endorses transgenderism. The only mention are

effeminate men who are to be left alone

as long as they

don't act on their sexual desire

.

 

lol Make up your mind, so much contradiction in one line !! what's the point of being granted or tolerated if they can't act on it? I envy your religious mind.

[Tallaabo]

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@Che -Guevara

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But I think DK can make a good argument (that's he drops the rumor talk) from religious perspective. We might not like what he says but religion would side with him.

 

Yes the currupted, manipulated, miss-quoted version of "religion" preached by unreliable characters and peddled by the narrow minded masses would side with him.

[gooni]

Tallaabo,,, towbaddu way furan tahay sida naloo sheegay haddii ilaahay mid transex soo hadeeyo xagee masjidka kaga tukanayaa qaybta ragga? mise tan dumarka? mise meel u dhaxaysa labadooda?

 

If you could not find an answer please don’t come up Iranian fatwa I prefer Italian or Russia.

 

[Tallaabo]

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@gooni

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Tallaabo,,, towbaddu way furan tahay sida naloo sheegay haddii ilaahay mid transex soo hadeeyo xagee masjidka kaga tukanayaa qaybta ragga? mise tan dumarka? mise meel u dhaxaysa labadooda?

 

If you could not find an answer please don’t come up Iranian fatwa I prefer Italian or Russia.

Haa towbaddu way furan tahay but I failed to see how a transsexual Muslim could be more sinful than you?

A male to famale trans would naturally choose to pray with her fellow female worshippers and a female to male trans would do the opposite and stand shoulder to shoulder with his fellow brothers in faith.

[DoctorKenney]

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@Mooge

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Dk, niyoow that is what I suspected. if this guy was tormenting his own mother with sex videos of himself being banged, than we can all say he was not a nice person. this is disgusting niyoow.

 

thanks for telling us about the history of this person.

 

You're welcome bro. This whole incident was a shock to me too. I don't know this Sumaya character personally, but I do know his family especially his mother and I know for a FACT that this Sumaya person was a reprehensible person

[DoctorKenney]

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@LayZie G.

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Did you examine the content of the video? Did you carry a relationship with the subject of this thread? Why are you claiming to know the person, unless you were involved with him?

 

How can you testify to the contents of a video unless you were there or you had access to the content?

 

YOu have some serious explaining to do....just be honest with yourself, and tell us you are in fact grieving for the loss of your lover.

 

Mida kale, you can't tell people to denounce something and/or someone based on a common religion.

 

You are not the authority of any religion. Just take sometime to deal with your emotional outburst. Perhaps you should take some time off and grief alone in a dark room.

 

Cheers,

 

LayZie G.

 

There IS a video. Why not just go on Google and search the video for yourself? This was common knowledge and my mother as well as my grandmother knew about this tranny BEFORE he was killed. This isn't exactly a secret.

 

I am a Muslim. I believe in Islam and it's my duty to denounce what's evil and promote what's good. Stop with this secular mentality that we should ignore evil behavior and allow this to fester in our society.

[DoctorKenney]

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@Che -Guevara

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DK....As a heterosexual, conservative Somali male, you need to understand SOL has a lot of LGBT supporters.

 

You are a minority now and you are being targeted for your views and wholesome, traditional lifestyle. I commend you for standing your ground :-)

 

Don't given in to these radical liberals and their gay agenda

 

This website does indeed have a lot of LGBT supporters, and it's a sign of the wretched times we live in. Our Somali ancestors would have never tolerated this behavior to continue in our society, yet we have seemingly rational Somali adults actually defending the actions of this sinful person.

 

We Muslims need to stand our ground bro. We need to push back against this madness and actually establish our values and voice our opinions.

 

The Prophet (pbuh) himself promoted values that were radically different from the polytheistic society in which he came from. But he never compromised. He never sacrificed his values and he stood his ground, and in the end he prevailed. We need to do the same thing. We are representatives of Islam and we carry the truth on our side, and it's our duty to promote this truth and spread Islam to all corners of the globe.

[DoctorKenney]

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@Safferz

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Religion would side with him on what? Denouncing transgender individuals? Nope -- there is no one religious perspective on this, and sex reassignment surgery is considered permissible by MANY Islamic scholars (ie. Iran, Al-Azhar, etc). What "good argument" has DK made in this thread?

 

1. First off, Sumaya wasn't a transgender. Sumaya was a man who dressed up in makeup, got breast implants, and acted like a woman. But that doesn't make him a woman. It's not like "Sumaya" even got sex reassignment surgery at all. He still had his male body parts. So your point about "sex reassignment surgery" is a moot point, since this surgery didn't take place.

 

2. I dare you to go on Google and search the images of Sumaya. You would be appalled at what you see and again this is a well-known fact amongst the Somali community in North America. Sumaya was a pornstar. There are videos on the internet of Sumaya engaging in homosexual behavior and these images were reproduced all over Somali Twitter. I don't lie.

 

3. The fact that you consider "Iran" as a valid source on Islamic legal matters, shows that you're not being completely honest here. Iran is a Shia country where some of the so-called scholars consider it permissible to drink alcohol or do other immoral things. Stop bending Islam to fit your liberal narrative. Islam is Islam and that's all there is to it. YOU might think it's okay for a man to start acting like a woman, but Islam says otherwise.

 

“Allah curses men who imitate women and women who imitate men.” (Sahih Bukhari)

 

4. "Sumaya" was a wonderful person according to his friends, but that's hardly a reason to avoid condemning his behavior. There are all sorts of reprehensible people who are considered "wonderful" by their colleagues after they pass away. Ask the mother of this man, and she will tell you the truth about who her son "Sumaya" really was.

 

You can pray for this person, you can hope for the best. But at the same time, let's not fake feelings here and let's not prevent ourselves from telling the ugly truth. For all we know, Sumaya could have been a Muslim. We can't look into his heart and see what he was thinking. We don't know so we refrain from saying anything. His case is with Allah know. But we shouldn't gloss over his sins and pretend that what he was doing was totally fine. It wasn't. If my brother was an alcoholic and he dies, then I won't try to "bend" Islam and make his actions permissible. And now that this tranny is dead, we should tell the truth about this person and seek to learn from his mistakes.

[Safferz]

LOL@ Shias not being real Muslims... Islam according to DoctorKenney (also, Layzie was on to something... you know way too much about this person's genitalia). Bye.

[DoctorKenney]

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@Safferz

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LOL@ Shias not being real Muslims... Islam according to DoctorKenney (also, Layzie was on to something... you know way too much about this person's genitalia). Bye.

 

I never said Shias aren't real Muslim. But the fact that you resort to going to Shia authorities when you yourself aren't even Shia shows how you're dishonest.

 

And I find it funny how you nitpick ONE thing which I've said and then run with it. Islam explicitly forbids men from behaving like women. Sumaya was a man, and he was acting as if he was a woman. Not only that, but Sumaya committed homosexual actions and then videotaped it. Go look for yourself. The pictures/videos are all over the internet.

 

And you have the nerve to excuse this behavior? Do you hear yourself speak?

 

P.S. I seen the freaking images Safferz. They were posted all over Somali Twitter (before they were taken down) and it's a well-known fact that this "Sumaya" character was a degenerate pornstar. Why do you always defend the lowest and most immoral amongst us? What is your motivation here?

[Nin-Yaaban]

AUN.

[Tallaabo]

Apparently Boko Haram barbarians have the "truth" on their side when they are killing or kidnapping school children. Alshabaab too have prepared their list of miss-quoted and out of context Quranic verses and hadiths to justify their appalling, indiscriminate violence against the public. The ISIS Neanderthals don't even bother to justify their endless evil. Sadly the LGBT community have long been victims of this clear assault on the sacred Islamic scriptures.

[Miyir]

lol who would thought? our little Sheikh D trawling the internet for gay porn!!

 

blahblah tell me why do you feel threatened by something, private and between grown ups? see no harm done to you or anyone else, i never understood why it bothers you or anyone else as for me less competition for the fine ladies!!

[Alpha Blondy]

this thread tho.