Warlord Siilaanyo from Maamulka Sland fight against Press

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

They havent harmed anything so far just nothing with substance has come out of these talks 2years were confident building and ofcourse the airspace agreement has been honored. Having said that we will see more of these talks and how they end the ending of these talks are important. February next month will be interesting.

[Saalax]

That is what majority of Somaliland people think not just me, furthermore

the two opposition groups have also called for the useless talks to be

halted as they are no use.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The opposition parties want to be included in the talks they dont necessarily call for the end of these talks., the talks are slow and the koonfurians just want to prolong it but one way or the other the core dispute and the elephant in the room shall be addressed and when that happens we know where these talks are headed. All SL leaders wanted the talks just with mediation we just miss that factor but sooner than later that will come.

[Axmed1508736699]

Interesting remarks. How did the Unity Talks(Turkey also uses that term) harm Maamulka Sland? I wanna know Saalax's point of view why the Unity Talks benefited Somalia more than Maamulka Sland.

Besides Saalax is making good point here. Xaaji Habaar you shouldnt be a blind follower of Siilaanyo. The Talks so far gave Somalia(Infact MogadishuClan) what it needed. For example the air control of Somalia(Infact MogadishuClan) is being moved to Hargeisa. When Maamulka Sland(HargeisaClan) accepted that deal, they actually admitted defeat.

Because a real secessionist would say: hey , aircontrol of somalia is not our concern, let Somalia take care of that. We take care of (Maamulka)somaliland's air.

 

Other point that made Somalia's( Infact MogadishuClan) case stronger is the agreement to fight piracy and terrorism. Here, Maamulka Somaliland should have said: hey, thats not our issue, we have no piracy and terrorism and they cannot come(because terrorism is sponsored by hargeisa administration, & piracy is mostly puntland Inc.).

 

So all the goals was scored by Team Mogadishu Clan.

 

MogadishuClan 3-0 HargeisaClan

 

 

Why i say MOgadishuClan and HargeisaClan is because these two were the victors of the Civilwar, Mogadishuclan failed to make their places safe, while HargeisaClan succeeded to make stability within Hargeisa, Burco and Berbera but they failed to submit KhatumoClan, a very stubborn and somalidoon clan indeed. Also know BorameClan is showing signs of uprising.

 

[DoctorKenney]

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@Xaaji Xunjuf

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Siilaanyo is doing a good Job the less connection with somalia the better the song in the begining of radio hargeysa was composed by xaaji bispaas. Same as the two national anthems the introduction of hasha maandeeq. The koonfurians had little contribution to the state formation of the former somali republic. Though sl songs reached all corners of the somAli speaking people. We have reversed and changed everything the flags the coat of arms our national anthems there is nothing that connets somaliland to somalia other than a shared langage. All symbols have been changed

 

What are you talking about? You do realize that we are the same ethnic group right ...I mean, isn't this most important? And we also have a shared history. In fact, many of the Medieval Ancestors to the HAG clan and others are ALL BURIED IN SOMALILAND. We Somalis come from the North and we moved South over the centuries. But the Waqooyi is where we are originally from, and we share the same ethnicity still. There is a miniscule amount of ajnaabi blood in Somalis, and very few of us are mixed with Italians or Kenyans or Barawaanis. Alhamdulilah. We are still Somali.

[Axmed1508736699]

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What are you talking about? You do realize that we are the same ethnic group right

...I mean, isn't this most important? And we also have a shared history. In fact, many of the Medieval Ancestors to the HAG clan and others are ALL BURIED IN SOMALILAND. We Somalis come from the North and we moved South over the centuries. But the Waqooyi is where we are originally from, and we share the same ethnicity still. There is a miniscule amount of ajnaabi blood in Somalis, and very few of us are mixed with Italians or Kenyans or Barawaanis. Alhamdulilah. We are still Somali.

 

 

Well Xaaji Habaar believes in Faysal Waraabe Ideology which is Adis Ababa Habashi Boy is closer to them by blood than Xamarboy. In that case, iam willing to give them busses so they can go to their ancestral city Adis Ababa

[DoctorKenney]

My own mother is a Xawadle from Hiiraan and you can't tell me she isn't the same ethnic group as my father

 

Like come on dude. We are Somalis. Oromos are Oromos. Amharas are Amharas. We all come under the same umbrella.

[Saalax]

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@Xaaji Xunjuf

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The opposition parties want to be included in the talks they dont necessarily call for the end of these talks.

 

 

They wanted to be included because they don't trust war criminal Siilaanyo.

Furthermore the opposition are also suspicious of Turkish role and highlighted

they are with Somalia side hence why those talks in Turkey must stop.

 

 

Somaliland: UCID Suspicious of Turkey’s Impartiality Role in Somaliland /Somalia Talks

 

http://somalilandsun.com/index.php/politics/6998-somaliland-ucid-suspicious-of-turkeys-impartiality-role-in-somaliland-somalia-talks

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The turks are not mediators they are mere facilitators of the talks, so its not important where its held aslong as it is not inside Somalia or Somaliland.. The talks had no break through because meelo aad u kala fog ba l kala taganayahay. If the Turks were mediators that would be different story.

 

Doctor thats nonsense MYTH there are no HAG ancestors buried in Somaliland.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Doctor there is no shard history that was neither here nor there we created a shared Myth in the 1940s our fathers did the generations of the 1940s did that. Historically Somaliland never shared an administration with the koonfurians prior in 1960. Somaliland the ethno nationalists from Somaliland created these myths that the Somalis are the same people but culturally historically and socially and traditionally we differ. But today that myth has been exposed and thrown into the Bin Thanks to the generations of the 1970s and the 1980s.

[Axmed1508736699]

Yes Xaaji, i agree. You guys are different than us. You are closer to Xabashi and Tigrays. So leave Somalia, and go to Xabashi Land. Thanks.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Why would we go to Xabashi land we have our own land and we will remain in that land for thousands years to come just the way ancestors sat on that Land. Not sure what xabashis got to do with that perhaps u should search for xabashis in Somalia , because they are in every corner.. if we are so different and u agree with that why beg Somalilanders to eat cambuulo with you , why not let the Musafaniin eat cambuulo with you isagaad walaalo tihin eeh

[DoctorKenney]

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@Xaaji Xunjuf

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Doctor there is no shard history that was neither here nor there we created a shared Myth in the 1940s our fathers did the generations of the 1940s did that. Historically Somaliland never shared an administration with the koonfurians prior in 1960. Somaliland the ethno nationalists from Somaliland created these myths that the Somalis are the same people but culturally historically and socially and traditionally we differ. But today that myth has been exposed and thrown into the Bin Thanks to the generations of the 1970s and the 1980s.

 

There's plenty of shared history between us, as well as shared ethnicity too. I don't know what you're talking about. Plus, how can you demand to share a country with the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli but not extend this invitation to the MJ's of Bari and Nugaal? What's with this arbitrary line you chose to draw at the Taleex border? Does this make any sense saaxib? How is an MJ any different from me?

[DoctorKenney]

Axmed, well...

 

Austria is actually German, they speak German. The people ARE German, but they have their own separate country. They don't deny their German heritage, but they do possess their own nation.

 

I think Xaaji Xunjuf wants to do the same for Somaliland/Somalia. Two separate countries, but who share the same ethnicity/language and who are allies with one another.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The clan kinship between eastern sool and the nugaal region is a fabricated clan lineage well according to Ali khalif Galaydh, General Siad bare than tried to create a NUGAAL REGION when the sool region was Nugaal in reality. The reason why the Garaad clan did not fit in the Maguratania sultanate or Puntland is the evidence. Why the 2 are so different. The reason why the vast majority sides with Somaliland and the last remaining group , created their own group called Khatumo. Historically the garaad clan had their own tribal Sultnatate never under the Puntland clan of groups. And when the Mad mullah came they became his allies well atleast some of them. where as the Bari and Nugaal clans of Puntland never did.