Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 9, 2015 Why do you call Somaliland President war Criminal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted January 9, 2015 The old man needs to exit politics for good, he's done enough already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 9, 2015 Saalax how so whats the evidence that he is a War criminal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted January 9, 2015 What evidence do you need? It is all out there. Gunning down unarmed Xaqsoor party supporters in Hargeisa and killing more unarmed civilians in other cities and regions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted January 9, 2015 <cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> The old man needs to exit politics for good, he's done enough already. Indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odey Posted January 9, 2015 <cite> @Xaaji Xunjuf said:</cite> Why do you call Somaliland President war Criminal? This is very hypocritical of you Xaaji!. You call everyone out there names every day, but the minute someone calls Silaanyo what he is, a bloody war criminal on account of the massacres of civilians in Awdal, Hargeisa and even worse in Sool & Sanaag- (who can ever forget the massacres of Kalshaale and the children who were murdered there), you get crossed lol. Man up Mr! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 10, 2015 <cite> @Saalax said:</cite> What evidence do you need? It is all out there. Gunning down unarmed Xaqsoor party supporters in Hargeisa and killing more unarmed civilians in other cities and regions. Since when does an unfortunate incident in 2012 constitute him being a war criminal 1 young man died in an incident of protests. How does that make Siilaanyo a war criminal. I dont follow that logic similar incidents occurred during rayaales reign is daahir rayaale also a war criminal. Definition of a war criminal according to International law a crime (as genocide or maltreatment of prisoners) committed during or in connection with war —usually used in plural ill treatment, or deportation of the civilian population of occupied territories), crimes against peace, and crimes against humanity (political, racial, or religious persecution against any civilian population). Since when did president Siilaanyo systematically attacked the people of Axmed dhagax and Baligubadle because of their ethnic racial clan back ground or even religious persecution or he attacked the civilian population. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted January 10, 2015 scores were killed and 7 of Xaqsoor supporters were injured. Several unarmed civilians were also killed in Burco, Gabiley, Sool etc and countless places under his reign, the amount of people killed by the RRU is uncountable. Those are not "one" incident but repetitive and done deliberately hence he is dirty a war criminal and that is what he is. He attacked Xaqsoor supporters because of their tribe and political stance. Not only is he a war criminal but he is also a wannabe dictator trying to silence the media daily... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 10, 2015 <cite> @Saalax said:</cite> scores were killed and 7 of Xaqsoor supporters were injured. Several unarmed civilians were also killed in Burco, Gabiley, Sool etc and countless places. Those are not "one" incident but repetitive and done deliberately hence he is a war criminal and that is what he is. He attacked Xaqsoor suuporters because of their tribe and political stance. One person got killed in the incident in 2012 which was very unfortunate, This was 3 years ago . which is very unfortunate but to say that president of Somaliland is a war criminal because of this incident or even the recent Wadani supports and RRU incident in Burco. He attacked the supporters of Xasqoor because of their Clan come on you cannot believe that. Why did he not Jail Xaqsoor political leaders why did he not shell systimatically Baliguubadle and Axmed dhagax district why did he not torture in their 100s and try to remove reer Axmed dhagax from their homes. Thats a war criminal now be rational Magalaada Hargeysa ee Xarunta Maamulka Somaliland xalay waxaa ka dhacay Qalalaase u dhaxeeya Ciidamada Amaanka iyo dad ka careysan Natiijooyinkii ay soo saareen Gudiga Doorashooyinka Somaliland. Mudaaharaadyada Rabshadaha watay ayaa xalay waxa ay ka bilowdeen xaafadda (Axmed Gurey), waxaana rabshadahaasi ku dhintay wiil yar oo 8-jir ah kaib markii ciidamada amaanka ay rasaas ooda kaga qaadeen dadkii mudaaharaadayay. Ciidamada amaanka iyo dadkii ka ka careysnaa natiijooyinka doorashada ayaa la sheegay inay fooda is dareen, waxaana la tilmaamay in ciidamada ay adeegadeen rasaasta noonool halka dadweynaha ay iyana ku tuurayeen dhagxaan. Shalay galab ayay gudiga Doorashooyinka Somaliland ku dhawaaqeen Natiijooyinka ka soo baxay Doorashooyinkii Golaha Deegaanka ee dhowaan Somaliland ka dhacay, waxeyna sheegeen in Xisbiyada Kulmiye, Wadani, iyo Ucid ay ku soo Baxeen Cododkii ay dhiibteen dadka Reer Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted January 10, 2015 Saying it is unfortunate won't make any difference nor will it bring back the dead unarmed civilians gunned down by ruthless war criminal Siilanyo, war criminal Siilaanyo did not apologise for killing many unarmed civilians under his reign. It even promoted legitimate Somaliland MPs to put it him on the spotlight for his crimes. War criminal Siilanyo already killed many in Sool, he would love to do the same with Xaqsoor community but they are united and not voiceless. In UK the Xaqsoor community were considering bringing Siilaanyo to court so that shows how even they view him. Some of the many crimes commited by war criminal Siilanyo including indiscriminate shooting How British-Trained Somaliland Police Terrorize a Nation <cite> @Truth said:</cite> A report by Somaliland's Human Rights Center, published Tuesday, also blamed the RRU for the deaths of at least two demonstrators after soldiers allegedly fired at a group of them indiscriminately. MPs confirmed that the RRU had been accused of killing protestors at demonstrations. <cite> @Truth said:</cite> The RRU uses "unnecessary force" against civilians and "sometimes beat suspects," the report claims. On December 28, 2013, police and RRU forces opened fire on civilians protesting water shortages in Hargeisa, resulting in the deaths of two demonstrators, the report said. <cite> @Truth said:</cite> "Whenever there is a protest in Somaliland, they don't use water cannons, they don't use rubber bullets. They use live bullets to disperse a crowd. Bullets kill people," Jama said. "They fired indiscriminately into the crowds." <cite> @Truth said:</cite> on December 6th 2012, they confronted supporters of the Xaqsoor political movement and several young people were killed and dozens were injured. <cite> @Truth said:</cite> On November 15, Jama says that he and 28 opposition MPs were denied entry to parliament in an apparent attempt to influence a vote on a new speaker of the house. RRU and other state security forces numbering around 400 had occupied the building. Jama described the November 15 incident as "the final demolition of the Somaliland democracy process." https://news.vice.com/article/uk-accused-of-training-and-supporting-deadly-somaliland-counter-terrorism-unit http://democracychronicles.com/british-trained-somaliland-police/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted January 10, 2015 More documented crimes committed by immoral war criminal Silaanyo 1 unarmed civilian killed and 9 injured in Gabiley including children <cite> @The Truth said:</cite> In september people in Gabiley have demonstrated peacefully about the killing of one of the captains of the army by his own man in a planned assassination where the criminal escaped and the government did nothing about it nor did they show condolences to the family of the senior army officer. Later RRU arrived and used weapons and guns for the people; they have killed one of the protestors and wounded nine including children and women. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 10, 2015 <cite> @Saalax said:</cite> Saying it is unfortunate won't make any difference nor will it bring back the dead unarmed civilians gunned down by ruthless war criminal Siilanyo, war criminal Siilaanyo did not apologise for killing many unarmed civilians under his reign. It even promoted legitimate Somaliland MPs to put it him on the spotlight for his crimes. War criminal Siilanyo already killed many in Sool, he would love to do the same with Xaqsoor community but they are united and not voiceless. In UK the Xaqsoor community were considering bringing Siilaanyo to court so that shows how even they view him. Some of the many crimes commited by war criminal Siilanyo including indiscriminate shooting How British-Trained Somaliland Police Terrorize a Nation https://news.vice.com/article/uk-accused-of-training-and-supporting-deadly-somaliland-counter-terrorism-unit http://democracychronicles.com/british-trained-somaliland-police/ There are 2 different subjects you are mixing the RRU and the way they are used which is debatable or the fact that RRU needs rubber bullets or Silanyo being a war criminal first of all Siilaanyo is not at war with reer Xaqsoor or reer AXMED dhagax or reer Baligubadle for him to be a war criminal he needs to be at war direct war with them he needs to commit crimes against humanity since when does the Killing of a young Boy in a protests constitute crimes against Humanity Heinous crimes systematic Killing. Did president Siilaanyoo pick out that young Boy because of his clan lets just say that kid never got killed would he still be a war Criminal. If they want to bring Siilaanyo to court their appeal case is very weak to let him be punished for war crimes. Thats just absurd what evidence does they have that Siilaanyo is killing reer Axmed dhagax based on their clan or ethnicity or political affiliation. So by your logic he needs to apologize for the incident than he is no longer a war criminal. So if millosovich said he was sorry he would be no longer a war criminal by the The Hague int Criminal court. That would make the legal system of the west a kangaroo system. You are Judge and jury your verdict is President Siilaaanyo is a war Criminal. But all he need to do is apologize and because he did not apologize for the incident that makes him a War criminal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted January 10, 2015 I think you need to read more of the definition of what a war criminal is it is wide.War criminal Siilaanyo fits in this critrea below. RRU is not a different issue because RRU comes under war criminal Siilaanyo's command and he deliberately killed unarmed civilians by telling the RRU under his command to crack down on them. <cite> @The Truth said:</cite> 1.murdering, mistreating, or deporting civilian residents International Criminal Court 2002 War crimes are defined in the statute that established the International Criminal Court, which includes: Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, such as: 2.Willful(deliberate) killing, or causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health Torture or inhumane treatment The following acts as part of an international conflict: 1.Directing attacks against civilians Conclusion Siilaanyo is guilty of both. Siilaanyo is a sadistic immoral war criminal no amount of poor excuses from Xaaji Xundjuf will change that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites