Do you know why SNM was created in 1981?..

[galbeedi]

Mitid, Saaxiib., Clan ego is always there for all of us including the SNM. The main thing is am following the money and the projects. we could not even get 5% of these donor financed projects.

 

In all you seem to be an intelligent person with well thought argument.

[malistar2012]

SNM team are figuring way to baby sit rer Awdale

 

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@Mintid Farayar

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Galbeedi,

What's with this Ottawa community of Awdalites that's tirelessly working for the demise of Somaliland for 20 years now? Don't you guys ever give up the ghost? Is it the usual Somali clan-ego in the 'qurba-coffee shop' where the rival clan member insulted you to the point of no-return?

 

This current surfaced its head with the inauguration of Awdal University in the early 1999-2000 era but the university was slowly integrated into the Somaliland fabric over time. Recently we saw the drums beat for the Awdal-Land project with its absentee President(currently missing in action like so many diaspora projects before it).

 

Isn't the real problem with this dream the Awdalites on the ground in Somaliland who are far too vested in the Somaliland project to pull back now? Or is it the never-ending competition between Awdal sub-clans and prominent personalities that forever hobbles this dream?

 

Thus far, the people on the ground in Awdal have made their peace with the Somaliland reality and share the ups &downs of Somaliland. Are there clan grievances? Of course! But how is it any different from the sub-clan grievances of the Habros when another wing is holding power?

 

what insult by snm of-springs haven't you been following the news salaadiinta awdal when out of their way traveled to Hargeisa request fair power sharing , its insult to call it diaspora project .....

 

 

Ps

 

Galbeed

 

 

can you give us the history why rer awdal accepted to divide Somalia sing Habros National anthem bury the blue flag and raise habro flag....?

[galbeedi]

Malister, usually I do not like to argue back and forth with those who already made up their mind, but , as you stated, the SNM boys always had their own logic. Their tribal hiring process is the most corrupt and backward in any system of government. They have no shame in terms of greed and nepotism.

 

They mostly robbed us during Dahir Rayaale Presidency. AS an Awdalite , he couldn't openly defend or loopy for his own province. There is a tradition that says " Qaybiyaa Qadda". When Cigaal was President we had sixteen members of Parliament, he tried to legitimize the sixteen but we refused, because they had more than their shares. During Rayaale, the three parties agreed to give AWdal 13. Based on those understanding without census , it was agreed to be temporary. They gave Berbers Town with less the 54,000 votes 10 mps.

 

If you look all election results for Parliament and Presidency the Awdal average was always about 22%. If you add those who live Hargeisa and other places , we are easily 24%. At minimum we should have 17 Mps.

 

The airport and aviation minister, when they asked him about developing the Boorama Airport, he said. Hargeisa is the Capital, Berbera is the main port and international airport and Burco should be the hub of eastern business, Boorama isn't priority. WE are dealing with tribal chauvinistic who are were made ministers without qualification and any sense of justice. Actually, in Somali tradition tribes are always rivals, that means they do not trust one another or work the advancement of others. The biggest mistake is these naïve Awdalites are waiting someone in Burco or Gabiley to acknowledge their political and economic needs.

 

In this age of tribal hegemony, the rival tribes will not only marginalize you, but, they will oppress you, demean you and finally may even massacre you for not standing up. The biggest mistake we did was by accepting a " Nazi" style SNM leadership who came to power with tribal hatred. people got rid of them twenty years ago, but they came back during the Rayaale Presidency by using tribal card. YOU will not find Jewish people accepting a racist party to come to power or Neo-Nazis forming the government. WE accepted those who hated us to rule over us. Because of decent men like Cigaal , we thought we left behind those warmongers.

 

WE should have said no when the likes of Siilaanyo, Biixi, INa Kahin and others came back to the political arena. The only way to challenge the SNM system of government is to form a well organized pro-AWdalite party that will eventually declare a free system of government. Believe me, we are not the kind of people who boast with hubris and chest pumping. WE will create our own Switzerland. Somalis every where are deciding their own destiny. Besides, you guys already said that a tribal system of government will not work. Isn't every thing in Hargeisa today about tribal confrontation and supremacy.

 

Bahasha ha la kal diro. Reer Walba ha is maamulo. haven't you seen the tribal lines in MUdug, where Puntland and Galmudug separated peacefully. At least they are honest about their tribal loyalties.

 

Malister, on the question of how we ended up with SNM is a long one . I have to organize and write in the near future.

[Tillamook]

I rushed in to put paraffin onto the fire that Galbeedi has lit to Bar-B-Q the SNM riffraff of SOL...but it seems my services are not required in here, seeing how well Mudane Galbeedi has the Hapless Habro cornered and surrounded.

 

Good job saaxiib...just know that my gallon of Parrafin is always nearby--if it is ever needed to light up things, so to speak!

 

With that said Señor Galbeedi, please answer the direct question Malistar has asked you, which was..

 

 

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Galbeed

 

 

can you give us the history why rer awdal accepted to divide Somalia sing Habros National anthem bury the blue flag and raise habro flag....?

 

 

[Sharmarke Yusuf]

SNM/somaliland a rebel that ruined the millions of innocent lives........

[Sharmarke Yusuf]

Everyone knows the true agenda of SNM.SNM founder's Waxay ahayeen niman ka wayay senior positions dawladdi Siyad Barre they were xiil/hungri doon ah so they used the suunti Qabiil to innocent people of hargeisa to overthrow the government

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Galbeedi again you are wrong no one minimized awdal mp Awdal had 16 during cigaal because the the MPs were not elected they were selected, When in 2005 parliamentary elections Rayaale failed to make sure his region elect 16 mps in ileen sheekadu wa one man one vote waxba la isu ma qoondeynayo. The rest of the SNM mambo jumabo you are spewing has no real meaning really SNM as an organization political force ceased to exist in 1993. But ofcourse SNM members have the same right as other Somalilanders to join politics the SL constitution allows them to run for office. No one in SL is stopping reeer awdal to build a political party from Borama really in 2012 how come reer Awdal did not create a party no one is stopping them the SL system is fair the SL governments are not fair not just to the Awdal people but the berbera people burco ceerigaabo laasanood people etc. But i believe in time that can be changed.

[ElPunto]

Before it degenerated - Galbeedi wrote a fascinating and well documented first post regarding the situation of Somaliland folks/elites and the administration from 1969 to 1980. I don't believe this is taught to kids in Somaliland - for obvious reasons.

[burahadeer]

ooh well,the never ending quest for the nostalgic yesteryears by those who slaughtered the somalilanders.All these whetha you call awdalites or khatumites are nothing more than 1 %....99% rules and you had as much fairness as anyone else and even more.No one raised a finger when Riyale stole the presidency from Silanyo by 80 forged votes,reason being that he's from awdal and untouchable for political correctness.Besides awdalites are the only group who continuously had the vice presidency except the 8yrs their son Riyale was president who didn't bother to build a single hut and amassed wealth,, compare that to Silanyo and what he accomplished the first 3yrs.They have more than their share, they not even 10,000 and if you don't believe buy your ticket and see for yourself.Exagerations and false projections will soon end when reality hits hard.

The tired and repetitive articles on how the northerners had power in the defunct Somalia is nothing but the latest propaganda machine by some who embarked on desperate missions to score points.

the Somali drama hasn't come to conclusion yet and the fairness you looking for will ultimately resurface when you come to grips with on how much you owe,that might be too painful to acknowledge.

Awdal is large mostly barren land that you do not own with the exception of Borama and vincinity.For starters either go there and see for urslf on who owns what or keep going with the mudslinging.

Why SNM created? good question, to turn you from the gun trotting macho aggressor ,spraying bullets on innocent people to the poor pen trotting foreva complaining living with guilt,transforming himself as the downtrodden.Justice is only accomplished when you'r strong enough to withstand the evil...and that was SNM.

[galbeedi]

Typical answer. One thing you are correct about is we have to face this evil ( Siilaanyo), sooner rather than later.

[burahadeer]

^ good for you and might be time for us to re asses our forgiveness & sweetness.

and you anti Somaliland, Silanyo is not the issue if you trying to get sympathy from some landers...old tricks.