US decides to walk away from Culusow

[Odey]

As expected, Hassan sheikh may win the battle but he will definately loose the war.

 

Suprisingly , the PM laid a trap for him, whether the trap was well thought out or whether it was pure luck is another story , but by only moving his cabinet around and not kicking out or introducing anyone new, he picked a fight that handed him if not all the cards, certainly most of them.

 

The president came out of this looking very unpresidential and the fact that he wouldnt let the PM do his job didnt help him one bit. He is seen as a man that has no respect for the constitution he swore to protect. The bribery charges compounded the problem.In short he lost the support of all the key players he needed to keep his reign going. In this case the key players he needs are the US, EU, and of course key agencies like the UN but mostly US. Before you start beating your chests saying we are a sovereign country etc, look at the reality on the ground.

 

As the statement from the US clearly shows- he has lost them, lets not forget they foot the biggest portion of the bill, the bill that keeps things moving for the federal Government. With this statement, they make it clear that they are no longer attending the key conference for government funding in copenhagen and with it their extended funding. Without this conference , funding for the next two yrs will be tough. Not suprising they issued the statement an hour after the mps received a text telling them the motion is on the table today.

 

I am anticipating the US to revive the old programme of dealing with the regional admins seperately and this will undo all the work done by the previous "badbaado" admin to end the transition. Doom and gloom?, maybe, but i am afraid I am may be closer to the fact on this one and it is why I am worried.

 

As i said earlier in another thread, regardless of the outcome of this motion, the president is dead in the water and i will not be suprised to see a second motion in the coming days against the president himself. He is heading the same route AUN Abdulahi Yusuf did but this will become apparent in a few months maybe less.

 

http://hiiraan.com/news4/2014/Nov/67019/u_s_expresses_deep_concern_about_political_feud_within_somalia_s_leadership.aspx

 

[Dhagax-Tuur]

I just wonder who is advising this President? How can he allow a small issue which they could have sorted over tea over night to come to this? Everything to come to a halt.

 

This man has all the characteristics of' nimaan talin jirin'.

 

Allow na badbaadi.

[CidanSultan]

Odey. More tit for tat from these fake nationalists. Odey another step towards self destruction isn't it.

 

So much for your nonsense analysis. Jump into the abyss.

[Mintid Farayar]

If you take out the spin by the respective supporters of the FG President and PM, the US finds itself in a difficult situation. The US surprised the world by fully vesting itself in the still embroyic Hassan Sheik FG by granting immediate 'State-to-State' recognition shortly after the formation of this administration, an unprecedented step denied to all previous Somali political constructs. This was done without any signs of forward movement on 'State-Building'. It was simply based on a hope that the prestige of U.S. legitimacy would help a broken system work better this time.

 

One must remember that 'State-policy' is formed and executed by individual human beings, both in Somalia and the US. Many professional reputations are on the line within Western capitals, especially in Foggy Bottom, Washington, DC (if the Hassan Sheikh FG follows the footsteps of the A. Yusuf and Sheikh Sharif administrations in the road to failure).

 

There's also a Western annoyance with the role of certain regional States in the Muslim world in using their overflowing cash coffers to influence Somali politics for their own regional interests. This at a time when Western treasuries are squeezed tight by the aftermath of 'The Great Recession' and budget cuts. Hence, the Western hysteria over parliamentary MP vote-buying, as if this is something new to Mogadishu parliaments.

 

Ultimately, U.S. and Western interests are concerned with Somalia primarily from a security/extremist prevention strategy so Somalia doesn't continue to play its recent role as a great destabilizer of far-greater Western interests in the Greater East African region

[thefuturenow]

Odey & Mintid

 

I agree that this was a great political move by PM because it exposes more than just the president. Reports suggest that Faraax is not just another bureaucrat. He is the man behind a movement. He is the bridge between Muslim world (i.e. Muslim Brotherhood) and the current Dam Jadiid leaders.

 

Mintid says that this is a threat to present American interests because of "radical Islam." But American foreign policy has shown hostility to Islamist groups regardless of whether or not they are moderate/democratically elected (Egypt; Turkey).

 

Thus, the "international community" is not a neutral player here. Securing Western interests means the limitation of Turkish and Brotherhood influence in Somalia. And the best way to accomplish this is the removal of Faarax and, ultimately, the president from their positions.

 

But the world is changing. A new multi-polar world is emerging. China, Russia, Turkey are all have great leverage against the United States. Together these 3 nations are trying to influence wherever Western power is fading.

 

And the President knows this which makes it really easy for him to say "NO" to the "international community." He does not need the West. And that is biggest threat to Western powers--a Somalia independent of their influence.

[DoctorKenney]

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@thefuturenow

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He does not need the West. And that is biggest threat to Western powers--a Somalia independent of their influence.

 

And that is what I want to see more than anything.

 

A Somalia independent from the influences of other countries, a Somalia that doesn't NEED other countries.

 

A country that's self-reliant and powerful

[Tillamook]

^

If wishes were horses, mate... if wishes were horses!!

 

But if it's worth anything... I too, would love to see everthing you've just stated Doctor.

[Tillamook]

Officials say US threatens aid cuts to Somalia

 

By Associated Press November 14 at 10:34 AM

 

MOGADISHU, Somalia — The United States has threatened to make significant cuts in the financial assistance it gives to Somalia because of political bickering by its leaders, officials said.

 

The top U.S. representative to Somalia, James P. McAnulty, recently threatened an aid cut unless the country’s bickering president and prime minister begin working together, a Somali official said Thursday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of providing details about private discussions.

 

The international community is losing confidence in the Somali government, and the United States has threatened to pull military and financial support from Somalia, said a United Nations official who insisted on anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak publicly.

 

The U.S. Embassy declined to comment on the reported threat of an aid cut. In a statement this week, Washington said it was concerned about “recent political turmoil” in Somalia and that plans for a no-confidence vote “do not serve the interests of the Somali people.”

 

Washington also this week announced it would not attend an international conference on Somalia next week in Denmark, saying political divisions are distracting Somalia’s leadership.

 

“I think they’re basically saying if you want more money and support from us, you need to fix these problems,” said E.J. Hogendoorn, an Africa expert at the International Crisis Group.

 

Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud and Prime Minister Abdiweli Sheikh Ahmed have feuded since Mohamud last month rejected a Cabinet reshuffle by the prime minister. The president has been trying to call a no-confidence vote in parliament, and the U.N. has said it’s concerned about vote buying allegations surrounding the vote.

 

The U.S. gave $58 million to Somalia in development assistance in this fiscal year and an additional $271 million in military assistance for the Somali national army and the African Union force in Somalia.

 

 

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Filinkaan sanadlaha soo baxo since 2000 lagama daalo miyaa on SOL at least? I guess, dadka qaarkood wey ku marqaamaan.

 

Maxaa cusub oo soo kordhay? This very same taxane episode will happen again late next year, in the months of Siteembar, Oktoobar and Nofeembar, as it happened since 2000, as though it was periodic episodes of Walking Dead or Mad Men, few new episodes a season to satisfy thirsty, restless fans and wait until the next season. On and on. Sadly, this is no Hollywood show, but a reality of life, affecting millions of poor Soomaalis.

 

Ra'iisul wasaare ayaa la riday, mid ayaa la magacaabay maka daashiin miyaa. Maxee soo kordhiyeen kasoo biloow Cali Khaliif Galeyr ilaa iyo hadda ka ahayn inay jeebabkooda buuxsadaan.

 

Soomaalida baahan dowlad la'aanta la raagtay Eebbe ayaa u maqan, not ra'iisul wasaare la riday iyo mid la magacaabay annually helping them. Midkii tago iyo kii yimaadaba, waa isla meeshii -- jug jug meeshaada joog.

 

Filinkaana wuu soconaa intee Soomaali ka fahmi la dahay meesha dhibka ka taaganyahay -- waa axdiga xeerka qaran oo qoran. Labadaan jago isma raacaan, isku sina Soomaalina uma fahansano. Talyaaniga ayaa laga dhaxlay, sida Talyaaniga u dhaqmaana looma dhaqmooyo. Talyaaniga axdigooda waxaa ku awood badan ra'iisul wasaaraha. Soomaalidana sida Ruushka iyo Faransiiska axdigooda ayee u dhaqmeysaa, axdigana saas kuma qorno.

 

Dad wada waashay camal tan waa kasi la nahay ilaa iyo lixdankii. Lixdamaadkii kala dambeyn ayaaba jirtay, hadda kala dambeena maleh. Labadaan jago isma qaadaan, ismana raacaan.

 

Insanity: Repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results since 2000. Eebboow, waxaan waa waalasho caadi ah.

[Odey]

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@Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar

said:</cite>

Filinkaan sanadlaha soo baxo since 2000 lagama daalo miyaa on SOL at least? I guess, dadka qaarkood wey ku marqaamaan.

 

Maxaa cusub oo soo kordhay? This very same taxane episode will happen again late next year, in the months of Siteembar, Oktoobar and Nofeembar, as it happened since 2000, as though it was periodic episodes of

Walking Dead

or

Mad Men

, few new episodes a season to satisfy thirsty, restless fans and wait until the next season. On and on. Sadly, this is no Hollywood show, but a reality of life, affecting millions of poor Soomaalis.

 

Ra'iisul wasaare ayaa la riday, mid ayaa la magacaabay maka daashiin miyaa. Maxee soo kordhiyeen kasoo biloow Cali Khaliif Galeyr ilaa iyo hadda ka ahayn inay jeebabkooda buuxsadaan.

 

Soomaalida baahan dowlad la'aanta la raagtay Eebbe ayaa u maqan, not ra'iisul wasaare la riday iyo mid la magacaabay annually helping them. Midkii tago iyo kii yimaadaba, waa isla meeshii -- jug jug meeshaada joog.

 

Filinkaana wuu soconaa intee Soomaali ka fahmi la dahay meesha dhibka ka taaganyahay -- waa axdiga xeerka qaran oo qoran. Labadaan jago isma raacaan, isku sina Soomaalina uma fahansano. Talyaaniga ayaa laga dhaxlay, sida Talyaaniga u dhaqmaana looma dhaqmooyo. Talyaaniga axdigooda waxaa ku awood badan ra'iisul wasaaraha. Soomaalidana sida Ruushka iyo Faransiiska axdigooda ayee u dhaqmeysaa, axdigana saas kuma qorno.

 

Dad wada waashay camal tan waa kasi la nahay ilaa iyo lixdankii. Lixdamaadkii kala dambeyn ayaaba jirtay, hadda kala dambeena maleh. Labadaan jago isma qaadaan, ismana raacaan.

 

Insanity: Repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results since 2000. Eebboow, waxaan waa waalasho caadi ah.

 

War Yaa Ilaahey yaqaan oo ninkaan moderatorka ah naga qabtaa. War hedhe, filinkaan taxanaha ah soo kan aanu meeshatan u imaano ma aha?. Saaxib fadhi kudirirka hanaga qasin! See Alle kaadhigey?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Xassan sheikh will win eventually i love how Hassan sheikh is protecting Farax topaz no matter he is willing to against the super powers and all the frengis.

[Mooge]

lool@xaaji. niyoow, Damjadiid is having a bad day lately. damjadiid's power is shrinking niyoow. i wouldn't bet on their successes if I were you. qoslaye is wondering how Yuulka became untouchable. loool. he thought he could sack the poor guy, but Yuulka was building slowly the last two years after his cousin Saacid hurdaaye was humiliated. he knew that damjadiid needs to be stopped and he is trying his best to do that now. Yuulka has surprised everyone.