The man who brought Ebola to Texas

[Gheelle.T]

Waxkasta inaan conspiracy ka dhigta maaha. If Mr. Duncan were a white person his fate would have ended the same. According multiple reports, the hospital wasn't ready to manage Ebola cases and the proper procedures were not followed by the staff. The patient was left in an open area for sometime and the Nurses didn't even wear protective gears as they weren't adequately trained on (Ebola) procedures. They weren't even aware of him being sick with Ebola until after hours of his admittance to the ER. That said, the nurse who came down with the Ebola, Nina Pham is an Asian, so you may want to take the race card back into your back pocket, buddy.

[DoctorKenney]

Everything is a "conspiracy" to people who are disconnected from reality. Why is Mr Duncan's race even relevant?

 

Mr Duncan was a Black man who died from Ebola, but if he were a White man he would have met the same fate. There is no treatment or cure from Ebola and all you can really do is hope for the best.

 

But people are making Mr Duncan's death into a race-related issue...

 

Even Jesse Jackson visited that hospital in Dallas and was insinuating that Duncan's death was race-related. These charlatans and clowns make a living off of stoking the fires of racial anger, and always blaming everything on "Whitey" but never doing anything pro-active to help their own community.

 

Not everything in life is about race.

[Gheelle.T]

^You're Dr.Kennedy. In the medical world, once a patient walks in ER his status, race, or nationality becomes irreverent. Doctors are obliged to treat and give that patient the best care that facility offers. Besides, why would one assume that medical staff is of one race(white), when in fact in most of American hospitals and clinics they only make half of the Medical staff. The doctors who cared for Mr. Duncan could have been Blacks, Indians,Arab Hispanic or White. Just imagine if the doctor who took care of him turns out to be a black, then what? Maybe they will blame the CDC and the hospital directors.

 

Read this article:

"Medical records provided to The Associated Press by Duncan’s family show that Pham helped care for him throughout his hospital stay, including the day he arrived in intensive care with diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting, and the day before he died."

 

Here

[Tallaabo]

These racism "controversies" are becoming a joke. Here in Britain we had a similar issue in the last two to three days.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2791084/david-cameron-poses-morris-dancers-black-faces-banbury-folk-festival.html

[DoctorKenney]

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@Gheelle.T

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^You're Dr.Kennedy. In the medical world, once a patient walks in ER his status, race, or nationality becomes irreverent. Doctors are obliged to treat and give that patient the best care that facility offers. Besides, why would one assume that medical staff is of one race(white), when in fact in most of American hospitals and clinics they only make half of the Medical staff. The doctors who cared for Mr. Duncan could have been Blacks, Indians,Arab Hispanic or White. Just imagine if the doctor who took care of him turns out to be a black, then what? Maybe they will blame the CDC and the hospital directors.

 

Read this article:

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Medical records provided to The Associated Press by Duncan’s family show that Pham helped care for him throughout his hospital stay, including the day he arrived in intensive care with diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting, and the day before he died."

 

Here

 

They weren't even obligated to help Mr Duncan. Since Mr Duncan wasn't an American citizen and he didn't possess the required health insurance, the hospital was under no obligation to serve Mr Duncan, but they did so for political reasons. Mr Duncan's illness was highly contagious and it was the first case of Ebola in the United States, which is why the hospital chose to treat him free-of-cost.

 

And now the Asian nurse who treated Mr Duncan just got diagnosed with Ebola as well. She's very sick right now, but yet we don't see these Black-Americans crying racism or talking about her.

 

And now we have LOSERS like Jesse Jackson trying to inject racism into this incident. Wallahi the way I hate that snake Jesse Jackson is unreal. I mean, Mr Duncan was sick and he died. It's sad, but it happens. More than 7000 Americans die every single day, for various causes, and there's nothing racial about this whatsoever.

[Khayr]

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That said, the nurse who came down with the Ebola, Nina Pham is an Asian, so you may want to take the race card back into your back pocket, buddy.

 

Do you think that "Nurses" are the decision makers in hospitals? Don't they always defer to "Doctors"?

All nurses assist patients according to

Doctors instructions i.e. Feeding patients pills, monitoring patient activity and aiding patients with such things as toiletary.

 

Have you seen the demographics for Nurses?

They are overwhelminglywomen and visibly miniorities (black, spanish, Vietnamese (the nurse you mentioned) etc.

 

Do you have any idea about how resources are allocated in hospitals and people get hired?

If a hospital is located in a lower class or heavily populated area by minorities, then that doctor or nurse from that hospital gets a subpar rating (e.g. B class doctors and nurses).

Do you think that other doctors and nurses want to work in a hospital with a stigma because of its location?

 

Race and xenophobia have everything to do with how this person got treated. Why else did a White Doctor from that same hospital get treatment and is now cured of Ebola while the "African" was left to die?

 

 

[Khayr]

 

 

They weren’t even obligated to help Mr Duncan. Since Mr Duncan wasn’t an American citizen

 

How could I forget Uncle Sam's Motto: Only American Citizens are Humans all else including Mexicans are Aliens.

 

 

Not everything in life is about race.

 

Please tell that line to 95% of the world that don't even make your hourly wage for a month's salary.

 

Please tell that to Mexican mothers that can only find jobs as Cleaners.

 

Please tell that to every Keisha and Ahmed that graduated from a Univeristy but can't get a damn entry level job in their field because there resumes are screened out based on their first names.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DoctorKenney]

What are you talking about Khayr? I'll repeat it again: The Hospital was under no legal obligation to assist Mr Duncan. This is a fact, and you can talk about what "the right thing" to do is, but that's not the discussion. And if I was the one who ran that hospital, I would have treated Mr Duncan for free as well. But it is a FACT that they weren't obligated to treat him.

 

And now Mr Duncan's family is threatening to sue the hospital and crying "Racism!" while enlisting the help of Jesse Jackson. The hospital which treated Mr Duncan free-of-cost, and now they want to turn around and sue them.

 

So you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you admit him into the hospital and he dies anyways, then you're a racist. And if you refuse him entry into the hospital, then you're a racist. You can't win with people who have this attitude.

 

Let it go. Even if Mr Duncan was my own father, I wouldn't have such a bitter attitude about this situation. Ebola kills like 75% of the people it infects, and there is absolutely NO CURE for the virus. There is no treatment, nothing. All you can really do is drink a lot of water and just wait. This is a decree from Allah, so stop whining and move on with your life.

[DoctorKenney]

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Please tell that to every Keisha and Ahmed that graduated from a Univeristy but can't get a damn entry level job in their field because there resumes are screened out based on their first names.

 

This has been going on for generations in the United States, this isn't something particularly new.

 

Look Khayr, stop concerning yourself with things you can't possibly change. If a White Human Resources Recruiter looks at a Resume and sees the name "Jamal" or "Amina" and he throws that Resume in the trashcan.....then that's awful. But technically you can't actually prove that he discarded the resume due to race-related issues. The White HR Recruiter can easily argue that this Black fellow "doesn't have what I'm looking for". So what then? And we don't have the ability to read people's minds.

 

Yes, many white people are racist but so are many blacks. I know many Blacks and they're pretty open about their disdain for cadaan people, so it goes both ways.

 

You should listen to what some Somali habaryars say about cadaan people or indiyaars. You'd be pretty appalled at what you hear. Racism goes both ways

[Khayr]

 

 

You should listen to what some Somali habaryars say about cadaan people or indiyaars. You’d be pretty appalled at what you hear. Racism goes both ways

 

Racism is when a power imbalance is created based on Race and Ethnicity.

Our mothers and aunties don't have the generational slavery generated wealth that Bill Bob (VP of the

other two VPs across the hall) nor that power or influence.

 

[DoctorKenney]

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Racism is when a power imbalance is created based on Race and Ethnicity.

Our mothers and aunties don't have the generational slavery generated wealth that Bill Bob (VP of the

other two VPs across the hall) nor that power or influence.

 

So now you want to complain about White people having a disproportionate power and influence? Are you freaking kidding me?! Of course they have more power and influence! What do you expect?

 

You want to compare Somalis, who destroyed an entire country based on petty tribalism and an inability to cooperate, to the Germans for example? The Germans inherited a fractured and destroyed nation in 1945-1950. They lost World War 2, millions of their best soldiers were dead, and millions of civilians were dead. They had NO industry, no infrastructure, no military. The Germans were literally running outside just to use the toilet. Germany was a Third-World country in 1945-1950.

 

Fast forward to 1975. Not only did Germany recover, but it was one of the richest nations in the world, with state-of-the-art infrastructure, globally renowned manufacturing companies, and world-class education. They made their own fortune. And Black people can do the same thing, if they stopped fuc**ing complaining about slavery/Jim Crow all the time. Be self-reliant

 

Am I the only one on this forum who feels this way? Doesn't Mooge make threads showcasing how Puntland is being self-reliant and creating their own prosperity? If Puntland can do it, then what's preventing Black Americans from doing it? Culture is everything. Culture shapes success. Build your own industries. Build your own economy and then you won't need the "racist" White Man. The Koreans got the message, the Japanese got the message, the Chileans got the message, the Turks got the message, but for some reason you don't get that message. Have some self-respect. Stop begging him to accept you and love you. Accept yourself, love yourself, and you won't need his love and acceptance.

[Gheelle.T]

Kheyr, someone assumed the nurse was a white and therefore may receive a better care than the black man that died. I simply pointed out that the lady in question is not white, but an Asian.

As for you other point that some hospitals are better than others, yes that's true, but the question raised in this case is not whether a hospital service is better than another, rather if a black man was denied a service based of his race and color. If you have any record where a hospital's ER treats people over their color, please do provide. A man was brought to an ER (second time) with fever and vomiting, he's been tested and evaluated just like anyone else would have been. Ebola didn't even ring a bell until he mentioned his visit to Liberia. All the reports shown so far clearly indicate the hospital didn't have the adequate services to deal with Ebola, nevertheless they followed the procedures to treat patients with similar infections. Now, just because a white person survived of the Ebola doesn't indicate a better treatment. If you really believe that then it's up to you. But to ask you a question, why would white doctors take the risk to go to Africa and treat Africans in the epicenter of the disease? And why do the thousands of the African survivors of the Ebola survived?

 

I don't know where you live, but here in the US there are laws that protect patient's lives and the doctors that give services are obliged to follow them. There is no doctor out there, white or black who will jeopardize his career and medical license to act stupid and deny someone a service.

 

Marka ama nacayb caddaan qab ama ha qabin, laakiin waxkasta race iyo religion in la gashaa nimco samayn mayso...

 

Ps: si dhaqsaa ku qoray wixii khalad ah ka raali noqo

[Khayr]

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So now you want to complain about White people having a disproportionate power and influence? Are you freaking kidding me?! Of course they have more power and influence! What do you expect?

 

You want to compare Somalis, who destroyed an entire country based on petty tribalism and an inability to cooperate, to the Germans for example? The Germans inherited a fractured and destroyed nation in 1945-1950. They lost World War 2, millions of their best soldiers were dead, and millions of civilians were dead. They had NO industry, no infrastructure, no military. The Germans were literally running outside just to use the toilet. Germany was a Third-World country in 1945-1950.

 

Fast forward to 1975. Not only did Germany recover, but it was one of the richest nations in the world, with state-of-the-art infrastructure, globally renowned manufacturing companies, and world-class education.

They made their own fortune

. And Black people can do the same thing, if they stopped fuc**ing complaining about slavery/Jim Crow all the time. Be self-reliant

 

Am I the only one on this forum who feels this way?

Doesn't Mooge make threads showcasing how Puntland is being self-reliant and creating their own prosperity? If Puntland can do it, then what's preventing Black Americans from doing it? Culture is everything. Culture shapes success. Build your own industries. Build your own economy and then you won't need the "racist" White Man. The Koreans got the message, the Japanese got the message, the Chileans got the message, the Turks got the message, but for some reason you don't get that message. Have some self-respect. Stop begging him to accept you and love you. Accept yourself, love yourself, and you won't need his love and acceptance.

 

DK, that was some rant saxib. You went off on a total tangent.

[Khayr]

 

Ps: si dhaqsaa ku qoray wixii khalad ah ka raali noqo

 

Saxib, Is that your disclaimer?

[Tallaabo]

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DK, that was some rant saxib. You went off on a total tangent.

No it was not a rant. Rather it was the equivalent of DR Ken telling you face to face that your cuqdad against the white people has reached an unhealthy level and needs sorting out.