The Birth Of A New Reality In The Middle East

[DoctorKenney]

Lool the worst Caliphs are far superior to Siad Barre, General Sisi, Gaddafi, Mubarak, Sadat, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar Assad

 

That is a fact

[Allyourbase]

It is true that the more run down a state of affair you're in the more beholden to nostalgia you become. Daydreaming of gone by days and glorious pasts, emo shit basically.

 

What is hysterical here is having these Arab worshipping Somalis being all nostalgic about a past they've never had . Literally living off Turkish and Arab old tales and forcibly including themselves in those histories. Just like a creep who stalks someone, raiding their personal albums to include cut-outs of his face, imagining he was there with them

 

Its so sad runtii.

 

The situation for your ordinary Somali living in the Horn of Africa were exactly the same whether in modern times or during that 'golden Arab age' you so love to namecheck. I would like to ask of such prosperity these Caliphs brought to Somalis? Im interested in how many school the Islamic Caliphate built in Somalia, how it affected the poor or contributed in anyway to our way of life.

 

You need to stop riding the Arab nostalgia train, you were never part of it, so man up and make your play instead of this laughable isku dhedhegis you're ritualising.

[xabad]

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@DoctorKenney

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I 100% agree with you CidanSultan. That is the only way forward. Implementing Islam at a grassroots level and start inter-community cooperation, and slowly we can start building the foundations of a powerful Islamic State which respects the rights of it's citizens and is an example to the rest of the world. But I don't like nor do I agree with the actions of ISIS, Shabab and all these other groups.

 

I want Somalia to be the gateway into Africa, when it comes to Islam. If Somalia becomes stable inshaAllah and goes through economic development, I want the Somali Government to start funding trips for Muslim missionaries to start preaching Islam in all these southern African countries. The Missionaries could even be backed by Somali troops, and the entire project could be funded by the Somali Government, and it would be extraordinarily cheap to carry out.

 

We've seen the successes of British-based Muslim Dawah groups in the West and in Africa. Imagine this Dawah was backed by the funding of a powerful nation (ie. Somalia)

 

We could go a long way with this.

 

Islam is an epic failure, just look at muslim societies with all their problems of fgm, gender apartheid, intolerance, fanaticism, violence, scientific, technological, commercial & social backwardness, lack of democracy, obscurantism, cultural genocide, etc.

 

why export such a fanatical, miserable religion? islam is an imperial arabic initiative to acquire slaves, wealth, concubines and foot soldiers from other nations. wake up and smell the coffee.

[DoctorKenney]

Saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it a fact. You both look delusional when you keep insisting that we are being subservient to Arabs.

 

Mentally polluted people wallahi. We submit ourselves to Allah and Allah only. And whether the Caliph is an Arab (Umar bin Khattab) or a Kurd (Salahudeen Ayuubi) or a Turk (Suleiman The Magnificent) or a Persian (Al-Mamun) literally makes no difference to us. The Caliph could be a Bengali or a Berber and I wouldn't care.

 

And the Ajuuran Sultanate in Somalia was a rather prosperous stable and powerful Muslim Empire which had an alliance with the Ottoman Caliphate and is the best example of Somali success and self-sufficiency.

 

Yet you Atheists want to return us to ruling according to European customs and systems of governance. As if the 1960-1991 period wasn't enough of a lesson.

 

Mentally polluted people wallahi

[Allyourbase]

 

 

And the Ajuuran Sultanate in Somalia was a rather prosperous stable and powerful Muslim Empire which had an alliance with the Ottoman Caliphate and is the best example of Somali success and self-sufficiency.

 

 

You're dancing around the fact that Somalis were never part of any Caliphate, having allies is an entirely different matter altogether.

 

You get wet daydreaming and being nostalgic about the gone by days of the prosperous, powerful Caliphate system, a system which you were never part of in the first place. It shows your damsel-in-distress tendencies, needing your bearded Arab Wahabi prince to take care of you

 

What we are saying is, that we as Somalis can stand on our own two feet, we do not need to be dictated on how to lead our lives by dessert bedouins is all. I am telling to not follow Arabs, or Europeans or anyone, just for this once, trust in yourself and look inwardly and you would be a million times better off.

 

You're so much better than those wide-hipped shisha smoking mofos.

[CidanSultan]

Lol.....who supported the adel sultanate based in Zeilla in its fight and conquest of Abyssinia ? Who armed Sacadin the famous Muslim amir who brought devastation against Ethiopia. Who supported Ahmed guray the left handed known as the Muslim General who crippled Ethiopia. What did the dervishes have in common with the sanunsi revolt, the Mahdi revolt and other revolts around the Muslim world.

 

These Somali men fought under the same banner as the men who conquered Jerusalem and Constantinople. Those men revolted for the same reason as others thousands of miles away. This is an ideological struggle not an ethnic struggle. If Muslims conquer Constantinople we have conquered Constantinople. It's like saying why should I be Muslim because it has to do with an Arab being given a message of one god. Somalis exist today because of the islamic conquests and trade that followed and established its presence on the coastal regions. Our existence, our culture and our very being is deeply intertwined with Islam. Yet these hypocrites talk about how what a Turk does or an Arab does has nothing to do with us hahahahah.....

 

This is the war on Islam today when we produce human garbage like this they have already killed us...without fighting us.

[CidanSultan]

Western civilisation is in decay...neo liberalism has destroyed the family structure, the destruction of women as fertility drops, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexualisation of children is rsmpent. Nations of single mothers, nations of neo capitalists who worship money and in return are never happy with all the money on earth as suicide becomes the norm. These societies are falling apart and hence why Islam is a threat. This is why they wage war on Muslims even within their own borders to curropt them and a few of them join their ranks but the majority understand that regardless of our ethnicity we are MUSLIM FIRST. WE ARE HERE TO COLONISE THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT.....This is our continent now....

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGA6U7tOQQ

 

 

 

 

[xabad]

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@CidanSultan

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Western civilisation is in decay...neo liberalism has destroyed the family structure, the destruction of women as fertility drops, alcoholism, drug abuse, sexualisation of children is rsmpent. Nations of single mothers, nations of neo capitalists who worship money and in return are never happy with all the money on earth as suicide becomes the norm. These societies are falling apart and hence why Islam is a threat. This is why they wage war on Muslims even within their own borders to curropt them and a few of them join their ranks but the majority understand that regardless of our ethnicity we are MUSLIM FIRST. WE ARE HERE TO COLONISE THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT.....This is our continent now....

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGA6U7tOQQ

 

the usual moose tropes about the west. Islam should first compete with the indias and chinas of the world.

 

muslims are vegetable sellers, welfare queens, toilet washers not serious people with education or any competence to speak of. its risible to think they can colonize europe.

 

 

[Khayr]

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@xabad

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the usual moose tropes about the west. Islam should first compete with the indias and chinas of the world.

 

muslims are vegetable sellers, welfare queens, toilet washers not serious people with education or any competence to speak of. its risible to think they can colonize europe.

 

I am curious to know when you became the

Head Niigga In Charge? I am glad to know that you have seperated yourselves from the muslims.

 

Btw, when did you get the promotion?

[xabad]

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@Khayr

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I am curious to know when you became the

Head Niigga In Charge

? I am glad to know that you have seperated yourselves from the muslims.

 

Btw, when did you get the promotion?

 

welcome to the debate khayr.

i see your a rap fan. remind the artist please.

 

not yet promoted but still waiting.

[CidanSultan]

^^^^

 

This guy ain't Muslim, he ain't somali and there is no such thing as waq the religion of his fathers so called He's just one of those planter cells that are paid to monitor forums to discourage any talk outside the parameters of our own self destruction. Notice how he jumped and started accusing Muslims of being peasents even though they are among the UK largest group of private business owners. Notice how he reacted because it touched a raw nerve....

 

 

You heard me: the colonisation and peaceful subjugation of the European peoples is a statistical reality through demographics. Why is this because God tells us he provides for his servant so multiply. Like the birds that leave there nests with empty bellies and return full. Cursed be the one who sells and consumes alcahol. Muslims have the largest population in Europe that does not drink. Marriage is half your deen, the promotion of marriage and family.

 

While atheism and consumerism and feminism has destroyed what's left of European people. It is probably the greatest case of self mutilation in human history and this is present in Russia and many other countries as we'll.

[Tallaabo]

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@xabad

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the usual moose tropes about the west. Islam should first compete with the indias and chinas of the world.

 

muslims are vegetable sellers, welfare queens, toilet washers not serious people with education or any competence to speak of. its risible to think they can colonize europe.

Islam does not need to compete with India and China. Both countries were once ruled or partially ruled by Muslims, both have significant Muslim populations(well over 100 million in India alone), and the Muslim vegetable seller's son can grow up to become India's or China's next Muslim sultan :-D

[xabad]

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@Tallaabo

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Islam does not need to compete with India and China. Both countries were once ruled or partially ruled by Muslims, both have significant Muslim populations(well over 100 million in India alone), and the Muslim vegetable seller's son can grow up to become India's or China's next Muslim sultan :-D

 

islam never ruled china. where did you get your revisionist history ?

even india was never fully conquered by moose, in any case that is the ancient past. india is free and advancing far a head of any muslim country.

 

the gulf between the native hindus and the muslims in india is huge in economic , educational and social terms. you will never know this if you haven't been to india. muslims are poor minority looked down on relying on government handouts. there no where no the levers of power.

[CidanSultan]

^^^

 

Muslims comprise of 180 to 200 million people. They make up 10% of Indias population they are India. How can you hold down 200 million Muslims. The man who developed Indias nuclear technology Abdul Kalam is a Muslim the top Bollywood actors are Muslims among the top businesses in the country are Muslims. Politically they are marganislied because they are a minority but that's a given because of partition we have bagladesh and Pakistan today. India as a nation still has the largest number of poor people on earth, the worst infrastructure and the worst cases of curroption and the poorest in society have always been the Hindu because they make up the majority.

 

You accuse people of not knowing history but you yourself don't even know recent history.

[CidanSultan]

They say demographics is the battle lines of the future. As for china the atheist of china the communists killed 30 million people and today the one child policy is leading to China's fastest decline in birth rates experts are predicting that the population of china will shrink to just above half of what it is today in about 40-50 years and will decline further. The Chinese have also been buying US monopoly Jewish funny money and they regret that now because they know it means little. China at present as is written by every expert lives in a bubble as they build for the sake of building creating hundreds of ghost cities with no people.