The international community must stop the atrocities in Lower Shabelle.

[galbeedi]

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Usually , I try to avoid or not to take sides in tribal conflicts, especially when people of different tribes accuse one another of injustice. Allah Subhana Watala says, " when there is a conflict among to Muslims, reconcile them, and if when of them refuses the justice and keeps the wrong doing, then all together must fight the wrongdoer".

 

As we are all aware, the Lower Shabelle conflicts started in small towns and farms close to number 50 town. Some Hag members have been killed in some area, and later an illegal militia took disproportionate retaliation and captured and burned the whole town. I was among those who condemned, but also I urged the Shabeelaha hoose community of Water maal not to target or force legitimate citizens who have farms there. Last week there were some threads in SOL about the murder of Some members of Somaliland community murdered in Shabeelaha Hoose. These were elderly people who lived their for fifty years. Also brother Moge and others spoke out against the injustices against the people of Lower Shabelle. Even then, I called for reconciliation and understanding among the communities. I thought that these HAG militia will come to their senses and avoid igniting new conflict since they are in charge of the government.

 

Yesterday I attended a news briefing and conference held by the people of Shabeelaha Hoose. In order to sift through the propaganda of the media, especially the war lord media led by Waagacusub, we must state the facts, just the facts. At the end of that conference, I was shocked how massive the atrocities the HAG are committing in Lower Shabelle. Amin Amir, who gives voice for the weak and downtrodden have illustrated many times, but I thought It may have been some how exaggerated. Now I know Amin Amir was correct depicting those crimes. AS a Somali people , we must speak loudly against these new crimes HAg militia are committing in Shabeelaha hoose. There are HAg communities in Jubba area, villages and people, especially G lovers and others. ten or so years ago the juba valley alliance was even running Kismaayo. Those communities are still their, but no one is pushing them out and they, themselves are not trying to take over, because, the Long Foot and others are capable of defending themselves. It seems the HAG is targeting the indefensible.

 

1- the earlier conflict at the end of last year and the beginning of this year was skirmishes and killings among some border districts in number 50 and Janaale. When I asked a friend of mine who is Hag, he says that the Water maal murdered innocent people inside their farms in order to expel the H.G community. Then the H.G militia went further , not only retaliated for the killing . but burned the whole town and the homes of the opposing clan. Even Cadale, resident SOL , complained the murder of HAg members. Since when a murder of an innocent is a license to grap entire region.

 

2- In almost all those conflicts, the National Army led by Hag, participated to drive the indigenous people out of their towns. There are no distinction between the Army and the militia, none whatsoever.

 

3- why would a localized small conflict, mostly confined in # 50 and Janaale became a total land grab?. As we heard from the news, the HAG tribal militia took over Marka, Jnaale, Muuri, Shalanbood, and all surounding villages. How can in this day and age a marauding militia under the banner of the state take a whole region, and pretending like nothing happen. Not only they murdering, but they covering their crimes by claiming to fight terrorists. If Morayan militia is not a terrorist who is?. First they said they were defending their farms , now it is a total occupation of other people's towns , villages and farms.

 

4- The President didn't speak about about these conflict or tried to stop , other than call for peace. Rather than demand the unconditional withdrawal of the militia , he is hiding behind his tribal agenda.

 

5- Now you have a whole region expropriated from it's residents and indigenous people , yet HAG leaders are acting like little they took something they owned. Some are even calling themselves leaders of the region and naming ministers.

 

6- reliable sources say, that it is a well organized plan to take over Shabeelaha Hoose. REmember they could live their like anyone else, but the want to take over. They see indigenous community which doesn't have the material and the manpower of the state to fight back. That doesn't mean the wrong doers and squatters will prevail. Remember Hussein Aideed once ruled Baidoa as the undisputed governor, now you will not see one single HAg claim that region.

 

7-Other than few members from Puntland the SAHAL community are raising their voice. Some theories even suggest that there were understanding that HAG must support JUBBA and then SAHAL will be quite in the quest to take over Shabeelaha hoose. Where is the Prime minister, how can you watch people who have been expropriated under your nose.

 

8- this is not a conflict but a the total elimination and subjugation of the people of the shabeelaha hoose.

 

9- The HAG war and atrocities do not have any limit or moral guidelines. Just yesterday , they killed six women, among them a pregnant women.

10- early this year seven Water Maal elders who participated the Baidoa conference for the formation of the south west states were taken away from their passenger cars and murdered.

 

10- just last december 2013, a group of HAG from Hiiraan, who were members of the National army trained by Jibouti , attacked the town of Kabxanley in day light and murdered a large number of civilians. Just like number 50 they burned the the whole town.

 

 

 

In the light of these Atrocities and looting of the land from the indigenous people by the HAG militia who have no faith or moral code that could stop them from committing these crimes, I am suggesting few steps which may help stop these crimes from going further.

 

1- The president must unequivocally condemn the crimes of these militia and order them to come back to their original positions before the beginning of the conflict. No one, will accept by your weak pronouncements of calling calm. The leaders of the militia are your allies, a simple phone call will do it.

 

2- If you do not take these steps, you are abandoning your moral duty to safeguard those who are not unable to defend themselves from the new militia of today. This new phenomenon of invading and land grabbing for political reasons, is becoming the symbol of your government. " soomaalidu waxay tidhaahdaa waxa ugu daran gardaro garab og". Among the HAG militia , your election is becoming a card to kill and loot once again.

 

3- The United Nations Monitoring group accused your government for transferring weapons from the nations depos to Non military actors mainly the HAG militia, to further their clan agenda. Many Somalis including me, supported the lifting of armed embargo from Somalia , in order to facilitate the rebuilding of the army. In the light of these atrocities and the unchecked crimes of the militia allied with army, most Somalis should rethink the easing of the embargo.

 

4- Most of as thought that by strengthening the nation's institutions, the grip the tribes have for the power would diminish and the security forces would help the weak. In the light of these atrocities, we no longer trust the tribal militia , masquerading as a national army. The army must be constructed in a national way. 4.5 is the way to go. we reject to give HAG militia the license to kill and steal land from the indigenous people.

 

 

5-HAG militia acting as the army must be relocated from the shabeelaha Hoose.

 

6- We, those who always propagate peace and justice are demanding that the UNisom command should not allow innocent people to be pushed from their land under your watch. We demand the government of Djibouti to stop supporting clan militia from committing these heinous crimes.

 

7- We ask the United Nations envoy to speak out against these atrocities and the people of Shabeelah Hoose.

 

8- The Federal Parliament must investigate and speak out against these crimes and demand the removal of the militia from these regions.

 

9- If Somali National government means a license for HAg to kill, loot and subjugate people , then the people of Shabeelaha Hoose and those who support peace and justice must take a new stand against the government. We thought the Formation of National permanent government was a path to justice and peace, but it is becoming a new way to get rich, maim and subjugate , then we say no to that government. If these things continue, I believe it is the end of the so called Somali Government.

 

I think the people of Somaliland have a case when they see these kind of injustices and and wanton killing of the innocent in southern Somalia. How can you trust and share anything with blood thirsty people. I do believe we must nurture what we have in Somaliland in the meantime and see what comes from these forsaken place.

 

 

 

 

[malistar2012]

Galbeed

 

With all respect lower Shabbelle is also home to a large HAG community , The water mall are not the only settlers in the region and sure not the largest . There other communities living in peace with each other .

 

 

Where did Water melons import the policy to expelle and kill HAG residents and business people , What are they fighting for they have been giving and granted the leadership of the region ? Amiin Amiin calacal will not grant them entire region sxb....

 

 

Gaalbeedi

 

1-As we are all aware, the Lower Shabelle conflicts started in small towns and farms close to number 50 town. Some Hag members have been killed in some area.

 

earlier conflict at the end of last year and the beginning of this year was skirmishes and killings among some border districts in number 50 and Janaale. When I asked a friend of mine who is Hag, he says that the Water maal murdered innocent people inside their farms in order to expel the H.G community.

 

 

 

tell us who is land grabbing and being aggressive you your self admit the water mall clans have initiated this conflict by killin H.G farmers and residents ....?

 

The opposing militias have all defected from Somali arm force

[galbeedi]

Killing one another in tribal area is a constant problem in Somalia. their was an army colonel from the D.....r community killed in check point by Hag militia, there were also other killings from both sides.

 

Yes there are HAG communities that live in Lower Shabelle, but, what I object is for a clan militia to capture Marka, Muuri, Janaale and all other area by force and claim, that they cleaned the area from water Maaal people.

 

Where is the national army in the region. Why allow conflict to drag. Militia are entering big cities like Marka and chasing the mayor of the town, and claiming to themselves. Maalister , saaxiib , you your self was talking about the formation of the Shabelle ministers

 

The best option is for the occupying militia is to go back their original positions which was number 50, whether they are army or militia. you do not see this happening anywhere. Imagine the east Burco clan with the backing of Somaliland government taking Laascaanood, talex and Xudun. As tradition goes and norm of the people who share boundaries, the east Burco is the first one to avoid any conflict with Khaatumo. Their elders want peace with neighbors and will never ever think of taking their land on tribal ways.

 

For the sake of the future of Somalia stop these occupation.

[malistar2012]

Gaalbeed

 

Shabelle state is led by the majority of residents even the current governor of Lower Shabelle Cabduqadiir Siidii oo qabiil ahaan u dhashay beesha Dig*+l and Mir**fl supports it ...

 

 

 

Waxgarad, Siyaasiyiin iyo Xildhibaano ka tirsan Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ee ka soo jeeda Gobolada Shabeelaha Hoose iyo Shabeelaha Dhexe ayaa maanta Kulan ku yeeshay Magaalada Muqdisho waxayna ka wada hadleyn Arrimo badan oo la xiriira sidii loo mideyn lahaa labadaasi Gobal,

 

Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabeelaha Dhexe Cabdi Jiinow Calasow iyo Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose C/qaadir siidii ayaa kulan xaadir ku ahaa waxayna ku heshiiyeen in la mideeyo labadaasi Gobol.

 

Xildhibaan daahir Amiin Jeesow oo ka mid ah Mudanyaasha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ayaa warbaahinta la hadlay waxa uuna ka warbixiyay waxyaabihii kulanka ka soo baxay iyo Heshiiska lagu Mideynaayo labada Gobol oo ay isku af garteen Labada Gudoomiye.

 

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Only The mayor of Mark was the spoiler and continues to be trouble maker ...

 

 

Dhagayso:- Gudoomiyaha Marka oo ku Gacan sayray Shirka Afgooye ee Maamul samaynta Labada shabeele.

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Mar 9, 2014 @ 5:22

 

Gudoomiyaha Degmada marka gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose Maxamed Yariisoow ayaa sheegay in aanay ku qanacsaneyn shir lagaga dhawaaqay magaalada Afgooye ee gobolkaas kaas oo ay isugu yimaadeen odayaal iyo waxgarad badan oo ka kala tirsan labada gobol waa shabeelaha hoose iyo shabeelaha dhexe.

 

Waxa u sheegay gudoomiyaha in shirkaasi u yahay mid aan loo baahneyn xiligan hadiise la sameynayo maamul goboleed laba gobol ah ay tahay in shacabka gobolka la weydiiyo donitaankooda .

 

Maanta ayaa waxaa laga furay magaalada Afgooye shir weyne ku ku aadan Maamul u sameynta labada gobol ee kala ah Shabeelaha hoose iyo Shabeelaha dhexe, waxaana ka qeyb galaya odayaal iyo wax;

 

 

[galbeedi]

Now you want to take over the region by force and then form a shabelle region without the consent of the local people. The Mayor is Water maal and would not accept any " maamul under the gun of HAG militia. The governor is HAG, that is why he is leading this. You are a minority there , you can't force any thing under the gun.

 

In any protracted war the Local people who are the majority will prevail eventually. It is indeed strange, the largest community in the region is not part of these scheme.

 

where is Nicholas Kay and others from the international community while the indigenous people are marginalized in their own land.

[malistar2012]

Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose Cabduqadiir Siidii oo qabiil ahaan u dhashay beesha Dig*+l and Mir**fl supports Shabbelle State

 

 

 

Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabeelaha Dhexe Cabdi Jiinow Calasow iyo Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Shabeelaha Hoose C/qaadir siidii ayaa kulan xaadir ku ahaa waxayna ku heshiiyeen in la mideeyo labadaasi Gobol.

 

 

[Che -Guevara]

The President seems to lack courage and has no sense of justice. For Somalia to rise from the ashes, unpopular yet essential decisions need to be made. Shabelle offered him a chance to make his mark; however he took the cowardly way.

[cadnaan1]

it s unfortunately after almost 25 years we r still where we started 1991.

 

lower shabelle is the largest and the wealthiest gobol in somalia and qabiilo badan ayaa dagan oo ugu badan yihiin dig1L mirifle, the farmer community,D1R,banaadiri ,reer baraawe, HAG specially afar-qooble,unuka,camel-lovers and more.

 

maxaa waalay oo na istusay labadaan qabiil water-maal iyo iljeex waxaan u malaynayaa imaan la,aan iyo moorayaanimo lee waaye ,qabiiladan kale oo badan si nabad ah ayey kuwada daganyihiin gobolkaasi.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Cadnaan, qabiilada kale si nabad ay ku degnaadaan laba arrimood u keentay. Mida koowaad meesha ay Barbaarta maamulaan qabiil iyo qurunkiisa lagama ogola, sida Baraawe, Sablaale, Kunturwaareey iyo deegaanada hoose yimaada. Si caddaalad loogu noolyahay deegaanadaas, dadkii deegaanada beerahooda si nabad u tabcadaan.

 

Deegaanada kale dadkii u dhashay kuwa maqaarsaar ah ayaa la yiri idinkaa madax ah laakiin hoos waxaa tuugnimo ku xoog leh mooryååntii heystay 1991 iyo wixii ka dambeeye. Kuwaan waa deegaanada Afgooye, Wanlaweyn, Qoryooleey iyo Awdheegle.

 

Waa haraadigii ka haray kuwii qabsan jiray sagaashameyadii degmooyinka iyo magaalooyinka Beledweyne, Baardheere, Buurhakaba, Galbahaareey, Baydhabo, Xuddur, Waajid iyo ilaa Jubbooyinka. Deegaanadaas dadkii u dhashay ayaa xoog ugu soo saaray ee kuma bixin walaaltinimo iyo Soomaalinimo. Waana waxa ka socdo Marka iyo Shalambood hadda. Waa dad quusan la' wali, Indhacadde iyo xulufadiisa ugu dambeeyaan.

 

Maanta haddee wali heysan lahaayeen deeganadaas sida Shalambood iyo Marka ugu doodayaan ayee ugu doodi lahaayeen oo guryo iyo beero ayaa noogu yaalo ku marmarsiyoon lahaayeen. Sheeko. Waa wax la mid ah kuwii yiri gurigaan xoogga ku heysano curadkeena ku dhashay, kuna sii dhalay oo waa inoo xalaal. Ama anigaa dad ka badbaadiye ama anaguu dhiig noogu daaday difaacidiisa.

 

Dadka dhul, guryo iyo beero ku lahaa 1991 wixii ka horeeye wey lahaanayaan oo taas wareer kama taagno. laakiin beer iyo deegaan awalba xoog lagu qabsaday ayaa leenahay kuwii yiri fowdo iyo fidna ayee markii horeba u joogeen.

[Dr_Osman]

All Somalis are fully aware of how states are settled. Lower Shabelle region wise D&M are the majority and reside in every district in great numbers. But the Merka area is solely for the the water boys and all somalis know this. If the water boys want the HAGS who came from galgadud to leave, that is their right. The HAGS from galgadud are guests and if a guest is told to leave he must go not fight. Somalis tend to think they can settle where-ever they want freely, which is kind of true but if the owners want you to leave, then that is also true because you are a guest after all.

 

The HAGS must pack up and head back home, I don't see the water boys fighting genuine clans who settle the region, dadku way is yaqan, and there is no place for the galgaduud folks in shabelle. The comment galbeedi made about jubbayoinka is nonsense, the HAGS have no influence there, they are not even armed, you give them way to much credit. They can be removed at any time, if Jubaland govt wants. I think the water boys have realized their will not be peace in the region unless they follow the example of baidoa, kismayo and get rid of these 'non settler tribes' from galgaduud, once they are gone, the gates to peace has open and the locals who lived always together will prosper and grow.

 

I suggest to galgadud boys you guys are mess, you haven't got one admin that is effective, your towns lack basic amneneties cuz your to busy focusing on other people land, half u guys are either taking advice from Puntland like ximan iyo xeeb, galmudug or the other half like dhusomareeb are on a land grab expedition where ethiopia protects you in your own town of dhusomareeb against YOURSELF. Who are we kidding the shabab folks running around are all HAGS so their basically protecting u from your own people.

 

While u idiots were chasing land that isn't yours, galkayo-bosaso-garowe have been growing and developing each year while your still at level 0 and despised by all somalis and your towns are the most backward. I would hate to be born to your tribe, I mean what do u tell your kids? you send them to hamar, their dominated by hassan sheikh folks, u send them to galgadud its basically dead region, u send to galkayo which is your capital but your under PL. Must suck being from your tribe, your maniac behaviour looks like your simply dying and breathin your last.

 

 

[DoctorKenney]

Dr Osman, when you say Galgaduud, are you referring to the Dahir Aweys-Ina Aideed clan or the Qanyare clan?

 

And Galgaduud is a large region and fully capable of forming it's own federal state. The fact that not a single viable united administration exists in that region, is very shocking.

 

But the people of Galguduud are divided even amongst themselves. And then their problems are exported to other regions of Somalia. It's a complete disaster all-around

[Dr_Osman]

Doctor Kennedy dont you consider it sad that baraxlay to dhusomareeb 200 kilometers on the highway has 3 different administrations yet 1 clan? baraxlay=galmudug, cadaado=ximan iyo xeeb, dhusomareeb=ahlul sunnah and ethiopia. This is one clan family? It gets even more complicated as u go down to hiran with djibouti and ethiopia and all sorts of different mayors, so called administrations, and then shabellaha dhexe=SFG appointed mayors with amisom, and dont get me started on mogadishu. It's like the 700 kilometer stretch from south galkayo to mogadishu is all sorts of administrations and so called administration with 4 different countries present such as burundi, uganda, djibouti, ethiopia. Yet the other 750 kilometer stretch from north galkayo to bosaso is one administration where the presidents walks freely from one end to another, not one mountain, coast, or tuulo is not under his control and he has plans to even extend that walking tour to sool-sanaag next.

 

I think facing the truth is better then living lies, the HAGS are messed up. U see hassan sheikh doing walking tours of maka al mukarama trying to mimic GAAS who walked 1/3 of somalia freely is just how stupid they can be. Let's be honest they're will never ever be one effective HAG administration because they will eat each other, the only viable admin they have is in mogadishu and it is viable because all somalis and the world is helping them. I can guarantee you without SAHAL, they will be lost and won't form any administration, mark my words on that.

[DoctorKenney]

Dr Osman, then I really think that HAG is gonna have to go through the long painful process of resolving their own differences amongst each other, either through dialogue or through outright violence. This might take a few generations to sort out, and then we will witness the rise of a viable and united HAG Administration. They're not politically mature yet.

 

Puntland, with all it's problems, is far ahead of the South when it comes to resolving them. The same goes for Somaliland.

 

But until HAG sorts itself out, I would hope that the other tribes just withdraw from HAG-dominated areas and leave them alone for a long time. Once Somaliland and Puntland progress economically and become more prosperous, this might drive them to actually improve themselves and build up their own territory instead of this constant fighting and ridiculous political games

[Dr_Osman]

Dr Kennedy, that is the point of federalism really, to get the HAGS jealous of PL/SL. That is the point of the dual track policy, to let the HAGS know the nation won't stall because of you and the international community will work with viable partners where-ever they maybe. They only starting to wake up now cause their about to lose it all if they continue playing these silly political games, they starting to realize it's not 1991 and everything is about 'HAMAR' anymore and their are viable regional administrations that are effective and providing social services to its people so it can boost the living standards of all it's locals not just it's diaspora as is the case in mogadishu as of late.

 

We will see if this wakes them up but if it doesn't they must realize somalis nor the international community is sticking around waiting for them, dual track policy will be fully implemented and as time goes on they will be left sidelined as 'unworkable'. The energy they waste fighting in hamar and shabellaha hoose wouldn't it be better they start providing social services to their locals in the central regions and hamar? wouldn't it be better to advance what u do have now rather then risk that with dual track policy of PL/SL dealing with the world and mogadishu sidelined thru their own stupidity? These guys suprise me alot.

[DoctorKenney]

The decentralization of Somalia is one of the best things to have happened as of late. We don't put all our eggs in one basket, and it'll give Somalis the incentives to work together and cooperate, instead of constantly trying to subjugate and dominate each other.

 

And Somalis won't be forced to live with other Somalis they don't like. It's better to separate from each other than to fight with your next-door neighbor.

 

If Puntland/Somaliland cooperate with each other, it'll greatly benefit both sides. And everyone south of Galkacyo will see the progress in the North of Somalia, and be forced to clean up their own act.