HAG battles new warriors in lower shabelle

[Mooge]

The people of Shabelaha hoose have had enough. The battle is on to defend their land from expansionist qoslaye funded HAG reminants from other parts of somalia.

 

[Tallaabo]

This is really sad. The HAG government in Mogadishu is using the money, weapons, and support given to them by the international community to subjugate and loot the properties of the D!r and other minority clans of the South. If the HAG owned SFG government does not stop this unacceptable aggression against the Somali people, then Somaliland and Djibouti should protest and ask the international community to investigate what is going on there.

[YoniZ]

^ Waxan wax kabadan ee 4.5 calankeedii miyaa qaaday?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somaliland should never get involved or dragged into the Tribal mud wars of Somalia never ever its a wasted energy.

[Dr_Osman]

It is strange the govt is actually promoting a war against it's own residents, doesn't that mean that this isn't their government and is just another faction of the nation. These HAGS suprise me alot, they expect to rule the nation but at the time don't want to carry the responsibilities that comes with leadership, they still want to behave tribal. I support the just war here, these losers from galgaduud have no right to be fighting people in their own land, if u want to stay there as residents and abide by the local rules, thats one thing but to say I'll fight someone in his own town is ridiculous and will end like the way all people who tried that nonsense, defeat.

 

I never see shabelle folks or any IDPS in the north ever picking up guns and say I am going to occupy your house and if you say anything about it, I'll fight you. Imagine the IDPS in the north all of sudden arming themselves in galkayo,hargeisa,bosaso,etc and started fighting the locals over their homes. This is basically what is happening in merca and the govt is sending re-enforcement clan militias with government attire to make this happen. You can't wear govt attire and behave tribally, if u want to behave tribally you have no place to be ruling a nation that is full of different tribes, it simply won't work in the long-term. This will just continue leading us into a cycle of every tribe doing the same thing as the previous leader whenever he gets power and somalia will never move forward.

 

The best thing for Hassan sheikh right now is to resign, his sending the nation back to 91. He did the same thing in jubbaland, marka, kilometer 50, the man has lost all somali people confidence and not to mention the International community with all the negative reports coming out of the cia, un monitoring group, etc. It's sometimes best to step down and not to make the situation any worse rather then stay and risk the little somalia has gained. We need to do large diaspora protests demanding that Hassan must go. Hassan must go. Hassan must go.

[DoctorKenney]

Dr Osman, but if Hassan Sheikh is forced to resign, wouldn't he just be replaced by one of his DamulJadid cronies or someone who thinks like them? Wouldn't this poisonous cycle just continue?

 

Remember how 2 years ago, all of us on this forum had a low opinion of Sheikh Shariif? Don't you think it'll be repeated again under a new President?

 

I think the new President of Somalia should come from a different region, to be honest with you. Maybe someone from Jubbaland or SSC or Puntland

[Tillamook]

Moryanism will be defeated.

 

The peaceable people of Shabellaha have for far too long tried to tolerate the Anarchist Banditti from Galhaduud in their midst, but alas a moryan will always be a moryan and the only language that an anarchist moryan understands is violence-- and ultimately the victory will belong to the home team.

[malistar2012]

Warbixino Ka Soo Baxaya Ceerigaabo, Hargeysa , Laascaanood , Taleex Iyo Weerarka Ku Jihaysan Taleex.

Jun 11, 2014 – 12 Jawaabood

 

Ilaa shalay iyo ilaa saaka waxaa soo baxayey xogo isa soo taraya oo sheegaya in Ciidamo ka soo kala socda dhinacyo kala duwani ay ku soo jeedaan magaalada Taleex, kuwaas oo ka soo kala baxayey deegaanada Holhol iyo Ceerigaabo.

 

Ciidamadan ayaa la sheegayaa in ay u badan yihiin laba dhinacba kuwa ka soo jeeda deegaanada Taleex iyo Fiqifuliye garabna ka helaya Maamulka Somaliland, iyada oo maamulka Somaliland uu ku guul daraystay in ay malayshiyadii hore ee ka soo jeeday Burco iyo Hargeysa ku negaadaan Taleex, haatana wada qorshe ay doonayaan in ay isu adeegsadaan isuna hubeeyaan beelaha Khaatumo, iyaga oo muddooyinkii ugu danbeeyey malayshiyooyin ka soo jeeda deegaanka Taleex ku ururinayey deegaanka Holhol arrintaas oo uu qayb ka qaatay Saleebaan Cali Koore oo dhawr jeer oo hore ku hanjabay in uu weerarayo Taleex.

Dhinaca Ceerigaabo ayaa Malayshiyada haatan dhaqdhaqaaqa ka wadaa waxay u badan yihiin kuwa ka soo jeeda deegaanka Fiqifuliye, waxaana lagu soo waramayaa in ay haatan ku sugan yihiin gooba aan ka fogayn Xingalool qorshahooduna yahay in ay dhinaca Taleex u soo dhaqaaqaan xilliyada inagu soo socda.

 

Shirka Taleex oo ay aad uga soo horjeedaan Maamulka Somaliland ayaa waxa uu muddooyinkii ugu danbeeyey codsiyo ka helayey dad ka soo jeeda deegaanka Khaatumo oo iyagu aad ugu hamiyaya in shirkaasi lagu kala tago isla markaana uu baaqdo , cid kasta oo loo adeegsadana aanu shirkaasi qabsoomin iyaga oo farriimo u diray labada maamul ee Somaliland iyo Puntland.

 

Garaad Saleebaan iyo Cuqaal kale oo ku sugan magaalada Xuddun oo lagu wado in ay Somaliland wadahadal ku yeeshaan magaalada Xuddun oo ay Somaliland Gacanta ku hayso ayaa arrimaha ugu waaweyn ee laga wada hadlayo ay salka ku hayaan sidii Shirka Taleex loo baajin lahaa wada kasta oo loo maro, maamulka Somaliland ayaa la sheegay in uu ogolaaday in uu hubeeyo malayshiyo ka soo jeeda deegaanka si ay u carqaladeeyaan shirka Taleex oo haatan ka furmay magaalada Taleex, isku soo wada duuboo, waxaa jira qorshayaal badan oo haatan socda una dhaxeeya Garaado , Cuqaal iyo maamulka Somaliland kaas oo la doonayo in lagaga hortago shirka Taleex haatan ka furmay.

 

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[malistar2012]

The pirates busy with south politics lol worry about punt land under siege by Sillaanyo admin ........

 

 

L shabbelle governor and Mayores are the water boys and May speaking Hag has transferred power and power sharing agreement has been reached .

 

This conflict was started by the the water boys ( Bi..mls)they targetted HG residents . Then a HG took up arms to save their people, both BMLS and HG militia have defected from SNA.

 

HAG has always lived in L shabbelle and dominated for centuries lets not get into lies and fabricate history ,

 

This is all politics. Why didn't this happen when Alshabaab was in power in lower shabbelle bot clan lived happily with each other .

[Dr_Osman]

malistar, we know who is in las anod, it is the same tribe, it aint snm. There isnt a genocide happening there, ppl homes aint being looted in broad daylight. The ppl of shabelle are united and fighting a moryan on a land grab who refuses to live peacefully as a resident in the region but rather wants to fight the locals. Have u ever seen IDPS do such things in the north, of course not. They are crazy nutts galgaduud folks.

 

The issue of SSC is political sxb, u can spin it all u want but the reality of the matter is when u go to las anod u wont see an SNM in sight, it is locals against locals due to subclan issues among themselves, these guys if united is obvious what happened in buhodle just one sub sub clan can handle the SNM that is reality, let alone all of them together,, hargeisa wud be in danger, forget if PL joins it would be annihilation of SNM like they never saw. The only thing PL can do is hold a conference to reconcile the clans there and bring about a political solution among themselves. Comparing it to Marka is silly. We aint killing our own ppl, end of story. Politics change, death doesnt. U want us to minimize our population so we kill each other like u did in 88 and hence ur minimized today as far as numbers and that will never change for u, we are smarter then u bro. SSDF never risked its ppl like you did. We know politics can change but death doesnt and will have profound impact on your clan in the future, ask the eyl folks about that, they will tell u.

[malistar2012]

 

 

malistar, we know who is in las anod, it is the same tribe, it aint snm. There isnt a genocide happening there, ppl homes aint being looted in broad daylight. The ppl of shabelle are united and fighting a moryan on a land grab who refuses to live peacefully as a resident in the region but rather wants to fight the locals. Have u ever seen IDPS do such things in the north, of course not. They are crazy nutts galgaduud folks.

 

Dr

 

Khatuum foks are screaming genocide everywhere from buhodle to Laas anod so it depends who you ask in regards to Genocide in SSC regions .

 

 

Ps

 

Who are you refereeing to as IDPS I'm sure not HAG in L Shabbelle , L Shabbelle has always in history or present been dominated by HAG.

 

the people of L shabbelle have always lived peacfully and harmony through out the civil war The Di**r clan was always on ally of HG / USC /SNA ...

 

 

The two militias and who ever else responsible for the fight will face justice ....

[Dr_Osman]

malistar the fact of the matter is whether u want to accept it or not, the issue of ssc is among ssc, u can try to make SL appear all u want but thats simply not the reality on the ground, u know it, i know it, the world knows it. This not a bimaal vs bimaal here in marka, this is a faraway ppl from a faraway land who are harassing the locals, looting, killing. Can u imagine the HAGS doing the same thing in Hargeisa, their is alot of them there idps and migrants and businessmen, imagine they started fighting the snm we want the homes, businesses,etc there and launching attacks with government assistance. Is that normal to you? it isnt normal, no clan does this and thats the facts of the matter. It is a unique trait from galgaduud which somalis are shocked at. The bimaal have all the right to say this is our land if u want to reside here u play by our rules, not fight us in our homes, farms, etc. This is standard custom across all somali cities that ppl can migrate if they so wish but they must PLAY by the local rules, this is what the HAGS of galgadud fail to do always.

[Tallaabo]

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malistar, we know who is in las anod, it is the same tribe, it aint snm. There isnt a genocide happening there, ppl homes aint being looted in broad daylight. The ppl of shabelle are united and fighting a moryan on a land grab who refuses to live peacefully as a resident in the region but rather wants to fight the locals. Have u ever seen IDPS do such things in the north, of course not. They are crazy nutts galgaduud folks.

 

The issue of SSC is political sxb, u can spin it all u want but the reality of the matter is when u go to las anod u wont see an SNM in sight, it is locals against locals due to subclan issues among themselves, these guys if united is obvious what happened in buhodle just one sub sub clan can handle the SNM that is reality, let alone all of them together,, hargeisa wud be in danger, forget if PL joins it would be annihilation of SNM like they never saw. The only thing PL can do is hold a conference to reconcile the clans there and bring about a political solution among themselves. Comparing it to Marka is silly. We aint killing our own ppl, end of story. Politics change, death doesnt. U want us to minimize our population so we kill each other like u did in 88 and hence ur minimized today as far as numbers and that will never change for u, we are smarter then u bro. SSDF never risked its ppl like you did. We know politics can change but death doesnt and will have profound impact on your clan in the future, ask the eyl folks about that, they will tell u.

The usual faan iyo fatoosh aside, you are right about the SSC issue. The Somaliland, Puntland, and Khaatumo feud is about pure politics and has nothing to do with land confiscation, daylight robbery, or clan hatred and domination. Such abominable acts of aggression and thuggery is alien to Northern Somali culture.

[Mahiigaan]

I wonder how Malistar ploves to spin. Adeer, we don't go for hunting expeditions like you have been doing in the South for a quarter of a century. D block are politically divided like Aided and Ali Mahdi in the 1990's and you know what happened!. Have you seen D block with hunting expeditions to annihiliate those opposing sub clans of theirs?. Do you know that those D blocks and SNM clans in Sool, who diametrically are in different political vertices share the same grazing territories and water holes but coexist peacefully. The forces you mentioned are D block forces who oppose the Koonfurian policy and their hunting ceremonies. Malistar, you have to accept that Northerners and Southerners have different sub cultures and mindset.

 

 

 

[Dr_Osman]

Mahiigan what is worse did u see that HAG guy at hotel plaza in mogadishu bragging about how he has hotel, how many hotels do PL/SL have and businesses and properties still occupied in mogadishu. Have u ever seen one of their businessmen get on public tv and say 'we have hotels'? dadkan xeer malaha, odayaal malaha, xitaa base malaha, malin walbo macalin dugsi iyo ngo president bay somalida la horyimadayan to be president, indhacade general, maybe next dameer donkey rider as minister of technology and science. Their pool is just horrendous, forget one or two good ones that were halalized with SYL and Siyad, what do you think 91 generation in 50 years will produce when they start roaming around in politics? what can u recruit from there except moryans, dameer donkey riders, and gaari gacan folks. Lets talk facts for once in our lives, dadkan dhibaato ba hayso, nin dhan hadu tv hor imanayo ku faanayo hotel baan haysta, what does this tell u. Notice how Puntland always says shidaalka somali ba leh or airportka bosaso marku dhamaado somali ba leh, ninkas hamar joggo bal eeg adigu wuxu oranayo. Dadkan af kale malaha except violence, I am telling u the truth, dad masaakin bay dilayan this is not normal. They killed two elderly somaliland men in their 90s all because they view him as close to bimaals. They did the same thing sxb in 91. I wish sometimes PL would've done aarsi on them in galkayo and never allowed them to return and looted their properties. They dont even fight with soldiers sxb, when they soldiers calacaalka ka soo yeerayso waad aragtay, waxay dilan wa maskinta shacabka iyo dadka aan waxba galabsan, they cant fight soldier if they see them sxb, they scared as hell.