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The pirates have been defeated they are now crying about some macawslayaal visiting Hargeysa lol.

 

 

Detoore Somalilanders will always deal with the HAGites even how messed up they are even Amiir Godane al Irhaabi deals with Sheikh Ali dhere and your clansmen have been discarded dhul qarneyn xassan turki Ahmed Madoobe. The HAGite only problem is they are insecure and cant take what belongs to them, and they use unnecessary violence against each other and they need the Somaliland mentor to give them guidance. The unnecessary violence led to terrorism and anarchism and Bringing African union troops in their land.

 

The SNM lords gave them allot of advise before the SNM jumped the sinking ship But they are getting better the last 4 years and Mogadishu is recovering they just need to cut on the corruption, but they will do just fine if they continue. There is no point to feel insecure they have the demographics to subdue all the minorities in the south including the one in Kismayo who brought Kenyan troops to protect them. Its only the AU troops that stand behind them to take it.

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Xaaji your not very smart are you, why do the HAGS use barre hiraale if they ever had the numbers to take over? the south is settled by many different clans and HAG are not the majority if they were like you said they would've of taken over a long time ago.

 

What your benefit by assisting the HAG? they only come to see you when they need help especially when their being strangled by SAHAL. What do you get out of helping them? pretty much zilch, you never got anything out of it yet support it, tells us how desperate you are.

 

Your all politics is screwed, your best mate ethiopia refuses your recognition, all you been doing for 20 years is 'courtesy' calls and you think thats a winning strategy? Like I said, you will be returned into your isolation where you belong because that's where you operate better, your talks with HAG are counterproductive be it in turkey or hargeisa and it will never work in Somalia whether u like it or not as long as SAHAL is.

 

Infact the little airspace you guys are bragging about, it's over. Puntland has made sure to make to include it in the agenda of the talks with the prime minister. We have advised the PM that hassan sheikh or parliament can't do anything about him since he is the second PM and should go crazy and apply all pro sahal policies. His basically untouchable and we have advised him, be prepared for alot of guul on puntland side thru the talks and this time we will make sure IGAD and UNSOM will be present, infact AFEY is already in town.

 

We have begun the process of removing this useless minister of interior who is strictly against providing jubaland and formation of states, we will make sure a pro federalist is in that seat so federalism can continue on beyond these silly janbals by damjadid like SW6, Shabelle state, etc. We will also looking for farah abdulqadir head and removing him since we do not trust him with the constitution and it's obligation. We will be taking out hassan sheikh through his own clan the HAG handing him his resignation. Infact hassan has already gotten rid of that crazy Habar Killer adviser who must've of been the reason why the man was so anti sahal with geedi a pro sahal siyasi. Everything is going well, Gaas has met african heads of state and yemen head of states at an official protocol level. Our region is booming with development be it roads, private investments and better governance iniatives. We continue to power on, plus jubaland is rising too as for your kenya claims, they all managed from nairobi by NFDERS so nice try, whos managing burundi and ugadans plus kismayo aint our headquarter its our holiday home same for jigjiga folks, mogadishu is your primary base kkkkk

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Detoore you are always missing the point this sahal nonsense has blinded you , you have lost the civil war give it up, you have lost with Cabdilahi Yusuf after your attempt in 2007. Barre hiiraale was under the mercy of Abdiqasim and his Thugs. The pirates are cornered they have no links in Mogadishu and the one you try to use in Kismayo will not last long and the AU troops and the Ethiopian foreign minister Mr Tedros is the guarantor to keep the peace in that region. The Ethiopians protecting their own interest and keeping Ahmed madooobe on a leash so that he does not radicalize again, and starts supporting anti Ethiopian interest like in the past when he was Alshabaab.

 

You asked what do Somalilanders get from assisting the HAG government , the question why not even though the SL government is not backing them but its dealing with them. The SL government knows what at stake , the airspace was a victory there is nothing the pirates or any other group can do to talk. The talks in Turkey were very cold though its getting better the Odayaal are now telling their long term Tribal interest in the region. Where as the SL elders will tell the long term interest of their people. The problem is you brought the federal constitution for your own tribal interest but its not going to work all Hasan sheikh has to do is tell the IC and the wider world no elections can happen in 2016 and the 4.5 elections will return and another HAG will take the torch and all they have to do is put the referendum to a vote Mogadishu alone has close 3 million people. And no one will vote for Tribal federalism.

 

IGAD is nonsense IGAD is Ethiopia , And Ethiopian divisive politics is being used against Somalia. All the Mogadishu govt has to do is boost its diplomatic wrestling with the Europeans and they can get rid of Ethiopian influences.

 

 

Detore who told you Ethiopia is SL friend , Ethiopia is neither a friend nor an enemy of SL they do not support SL independence cause nor are they against it they act very neutral to keep you as a friend and the Mogadishu tribes as a friend. And Ethiopia knows that when SL is recognized it will genuinely work how to make Somalia peaceful and make sure Somalia remains united and Ethiopia influence will diminish. The status quo is fine SL cannot extend its hand to Mogadishu because of the political differences. The Turkey talks are going slow because Hassan and the Western backed Mogadishu government is being blackmailed by Arabs not to entertain Somaliland interest. Especially qatar and Egypt Qatari money was backing Hassan and he cant go against their interest and Qatar was backing the Morsi government, thats why qatar suggested the 10 year Union between Somalia and Somaliland followed by referendum. Somalilanders are now teaching the Hagites to defy the Arab interest and think of their of interest and stop accepting hand outs from Arabs. Than the 2 Somalia and Somaliland will reach an agreement.Either way its very positive that the power of 3 will save the Somali peninsula Somaliland and Djibouti and the Mogadishu led Somalia government.

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