Homunculus Posted April 19, 2014 <cite> @SomaliaRising said:</cite> kkkkk at the end of the day ssc are servants and snm are the boss. SR, if the Khatumo people decide to join SL it's their choice, you can't deny that SL is more active in trying to make them join. I also don't think anyone will be subservient to the other, it will be extremely dangerous to antagonize the people there. I just want to know why the sudden movement to secure that region, there is something going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted April 19, 2014 Homunculus, I agree, no body is boss to anybody. it is their choice. Usually Suldaan and Garaads do not make this can of decisions easily. Some times they are wiped by the politician. Siyaasiyiin ayaa iska sii hormarisay, probably Galatdh and company. that does not mean Somali baa kala goysa. It is the only way to challenge Southern politicians. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Action Posted April 19, 2014 The Garaad defection does not change anything, after all he is following his sub sub subclan. With Minister Xirsi threating to capture Garowe, Somaliland is itching toward all out war with Puntland. By capturing Talex, they alienated Khaatumo and now Khaatumo is ready to sit down with Puntland. All this shows is that Silaanyo is getting bad advice and proving to the world that he is warmonger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CidanSultan Posted April 19, 2014 No such thing as khatumo and the world knows what Somalilands borders are. Taleex is somaliland regardless of a few people running around. Why is it somaliland? The 1991 agreement signed by all the tribes of somaliland including the las canod folk. The reason for the anarchy and chaos in Somalia is because no one honours laws or agreements. Somaliland agreed its course in 1991 so anyone who counters that agreement is against the interest of peace and must be delt with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted April 19, 2014 <cite> @Peace Action said:</cite> The Garaad defection does not change anything, after all he is following his sub sub subclan. With Minister Xirsi threating to capture Garowe, Somaliland is itching toward all out war with Puntland. By capturing Talex, they alienated Khaatumo and now Khaatumo is ready to sit down with Puntland. All this shows is that Silaanyo is getting bad advice and proving to the world that he is warmonger out of fear and irrelevance today's Somalia politics, desperation and cry for attention nothing more, but going wrong way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted April 19, 2014 <cite> @Homunculus said:</cite> SR, if the Khatumo people decide to join SL it's their choice, you can't deny that SL is more active in trying to make them join. I also don't think anyone will be subservient to the other, it will be extremely dangerous to antagonize the people there. I just want to know why the sudden movement to secure that region, there is something going on behind the scenes that we're not privy to. jumping on sinking separatist wagon same time undermining the union for coins is worse then being subservient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mahiigaan Posted April 19, 2014 SomaliaRising, "servant and Boss" waxaa laga yaqaan Koonfurta waana sababta Dawlad uga dhalan la'dahay 20+ sano. Annaga cidaana cid ma gumaysato, waayo waxaan leenahay dhaqan naga dhexeeya oo soo jireen ah. Ma aanu dhalan maanta, xata waqtigii Ingiriisku joogey qabaa'ilku iyagaa xukunkooga hoose haystey, halka Koonfurta xukunku Talyaaniga si buuxda gacanta ugu hayaey wax oday dhaqameed ahina u jirin. Bal idinku tiina ka hadla sidii add Afrikaanka isaga saari lahaydeen, kana fekeraa sidaad dadkiina u bari lahaydeen kala danbaynta iyo sharciga. Inta ka horraysa waa faduul waxaad ku dhalliishaan dadkale. Noloshu maaha xabbad iyo qori lala ordo, nabadda sida lagu helikaroba waan la helo waddada loo marikaro. Taas ayaad fahmi kari la'dihiin 1/4 qarni. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homunculus Posted April 19, 2014 <cite> @Miyir said:</cite> jumping on sinking separatist wagon same time undermining the union for coins is worse then being subservient. Then the SFG and Puntland should ramp up the charm offensive, Somaliland has been chipping away at the people there for the past few years with no resistance from either PL or the SFG. There is still a faction that is still holding out but sometimes idealism gives way to the persistent pressure of reality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted April 19, 2014 <cite> @Miyir said:</cite> jumping on sinking separatist wagon same time undermining the union for coins is worse then being subservient. he is probably more keen and knows the opposite of your views is true.Somalia that's far from settling even with whole the world's help for 1/4 century,sustained by billions of foreign help & 10s thousands of African troops & yet as distant as eva of becoming peaceful and functioning entity.Look at middle Shabelle fiasco still brewing & reocurrs,what happened in Beletweyne!? entire communities slaughtered few months ago so their land taken,yee and tell me Kismayo is ok where foreign troops throned a minority & indigenous people patiently waiting day the Kenyans leave,Puntland warry of anyone in Mogadishu..foreva friction that can turn into full blown war.Shabab that's reasserting itself with blockading all the towns taken by Amisom.Nightly mortar attacks in Mogadishu & security deteriorating nite after night. Corrupt gov't that lost the will of int'l community .Central bank closed etc Honeymoon ova. LOVE HOW SOMALILAND TURNED SOMALIA into chicken who live on and vent their frustration on keyboards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homunculus Posted April 19, 2014 ^^^ i hate to pop your bubble but Somaliland is also a big mess, you like to make fun of Mogadishu but the economy there dwarfs that Somaliland and the SFG holds the key to the future of SL despite all your bravado. Don't forget that all these factions in Sool are a little fickle and require constant attention, things changed very quickly in that region before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 19, 2014 ^^ Not really Sool forms absolutely no threat Khatumo sitting in a few villages will never be a threat they are squeezed between Garowe and the giant Somaliland, The past 7 years should be is our witness , Somaliland has gaining and gaining , the Amisom Project in Mogadishu forms no threat and SL and Mogadishu have these days warm relations. The Mogadishu elites are trying consolidate their power in Somalia post 2016. They have no interest to fight other tribes battles. SFG holds not even the future of its own Future, the secret is never put your hopes in other peoples Hands, SFG leaders are hand picked by the international community and interest groups in Arabia and donors and other Damul jadid cliques. Somaliland has forced all the Koonfurians inay dhinac luguahooda iskugu duwan despite their fragmentations and divisions in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted April 19, 2014 <cite> @Homunculus said:</cite> ^^^ i hate to pop your bubble but Somaliland is also a big mess, you like to make fun of Mogadishu but the economy there dwarfs that Somaliland and the SFG holds the key to the future of SL despite all your bravado. Don't forget that all these factions in Sool are a little fickle and require constant attention, things changed very quickly in that region before. <cite> @burahadeer said:</cite> Simply not true, Somaliland is not a big mess,indeed very negligible. No Mogadishu economy dwarfs...Life sustaining billions from abroad all spent in Mogadishu...in some hotels you pay $ 400 a night,think of that in starving Somalia. No SFG holds key : its accepted norm 2 entities agree on first.If Mogadishu disagrees and will always be so,then you think there be a union.Somaliland will reach its goal regardless.Bet Mogadishu will disintergrate again and faster if African forces leave. SooL will always be SL...take my word.Somalia will neva be a power house to change anything in the horn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
