ElPunto Posted February 13, 2014 ^Are we to believe then the UN Monitoring group is from a specific Somali clan or works for one? This is the problem with Somalis - we've reached a level where we accuse non-Somali organizations of qabyalad when we don't like what they say! Poor Johnny - I see you're still unable to deal with the facts in the report and again resorting to tangents re what I find problematic. You're but a hair away from MMA and his UN qabyalad argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted February 13, 2014 same as Un insistence Somaliland part of Somalia not knowing 2 continents drifted away from each otha. wonder what the rascals upto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted February 14, 2014 My issue with President Hassan isn’t merely that he seems inept. It is that everyone else around him is corrupt, and his entire team in office seems to lack moral filter. Corruption is not something new to Somali politics and we have seen plenty of it in the past, but what is incredible about this account is how openly the perpetrators prey on their valuable targets, slobbering over anything in their way without shame. It is surreal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted February 15, 2014 They are claiming, the government refused to show the monitoring group, the arms they bought from the gulf. Isn't this a state secret? Is this people have to know all Somali state movements?. How can a government that is waging a war of live and death could give arms to their arch enemy. The report did not say any thing positive about the country. Their main target is to impose total embargo, then Somalia will be under the mercy of it's neighbors. Also there were Somalis from diaspora who are campaigning the for total embargo. Lately, for the last four months there were a lot of build up of Somali army and recruits, this will not sit well with Kenya and their guests in Nairobi. If this speed of army build up continues for another year, we may even have a national army. T his monitoring group must be disbanded and all arms embargo must be lifted from Somalia. The government must prepare it's evidence and clarify all these allegations. If they are not true then these members of the Embargo must be replaced. Do you remember a guy by the name of Matt Bryden, he use to write inflammatory reports about Somalia but was replaced by the UN and ICG. We can not accept a couple of bureaucrats sitting big hotels in Nairobi deciding the future of Somalia. It is unacceptable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cadale Posted February 15, 2014 <cite> @galbeedi said:</cite> They are claiming, the government refused to show the monitoring group, the arms they bought from the gulf. Isn't this a state secret? Is this people have to know all Somali state movements?. How can a government that is waging a war of live and death could give arms to their arch enemy. The report did not say any thing positive about the country. Their main target is to impose total embargo, then Somalia will be under the mercy of it's neighbors. Also there were Somalis from diaspora who are campaigning the for total embargo. Lately, for the last four months there were a lot of build up of Somali army and recruits, this will not sit well with Kenya and their guests in Nairobi. If this speed of army build up continues for another year, we may even have a national army. T his monitoring group must be disbanded and all arms embargo must be lifted from Somalia. The government must prepare it's evidence and clarify all these allegations. If they are not true then these members of the Embargo must be replaced. Do you remember a guy by the name of Matt Bryden, he use to write inflammatory reports about Somalia but was replaced by the UN and ICG. We can not accept a couple of bureaucrats sitting big hotels in Nairobi deciding the future of Somalia. It is unacceptable. +1. well said,Galbeedi you seem to be the only realistic person in this thread. Why is ethiopia suddenly part of the Amisom, a country that used to arm two warlords at the same time. Dalkaan in ay degto lama doonayo, yaase fahmaayo some people are blind with qabyaalad and nacayb that they fail to see who their real enemy is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted February 15, 2014 Some serious accusations there. These need to backed up when the time comes. Does some UN people want this government to fail? Who benefits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted February 15, 2014 I do believe somebody in the UN want these government to fail, others want to keep their cozy jobs in Nairobi. This president was almost assassinated by Al-shabaab immediately after he was elected in Hotel Jaziira in 2012, he openly and secretly waged war against Al-shabaab. Do you know how many Afghan army members Kill coalition forces every year in Afghanistan ? Hundreds of American and NATO solders are killed by the so called friendly members of the Afghan Army. Few of that kind of accidents happen in Somalia. You do not see Somali armed forces killing Amnisom Solders. Some of us were criticizing him by not quickening the growth of Somali army. Now that we see the army is gaining strength they want to undermined it by denying them the weapons. This county is fragile, incidents of people undermining the state will happen, yet this country is punished collectively by the so called UN for every opportunity. When a country is stable and peaceful within it's borders, Failure of the government of the day is an option that can be accepted, But the failure of a government of a state trying to rise from the ashes of anarchy is futile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites