US Iran deal, the Isolation of Israel and the New Shia power

[Classified]

Hezbullah should end it's hostilities against Israel. Since the 1980s, the only Muslims that have shown any resistance against the West and Israel were the Shia, while the Sunnis backstabbed one another and bend down for Imperialist Western governments and demands.

 

Once the Shia-Muslims sign with cease-hostilities pact with Israel and the West, the Shia economies will flourish. This will awaken the Sunni population to rise up against the Sunni-regimes from Morocco to Pakistan to Indonesia, thus a new revival will emerge in Sunni-Islam like the Shia revival in the 1980s. However, the question is, will the Shias support a Sunni-revival and unite Shia Islam and Sunni Islam as ONE?

[burahadeer]

Shias r determined people like orientals,Sunis Prima donnas & see the Shia sect as discrete while the latter see as all muslims

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The sunni elites in the Khaleeji countries Sacuudi qatar kuwait the the UAE the Bahrainies have always tried to use Western support diplomatic and militaristic support, to advance their regional interests in the middle east and Abroad in terms of the economics and religious sub ideology Wahabism and Salafism. Their interest and relations with the west was most of the time parallel with that of the Israelis and the west. But the Khaljeeji Arabs always tried to use western muscle to corner Shia interest in the Middle east whether it was Hezbollah or iran or in Syria or Iraq. The west plays its own form of games playing bot the shia and suni against each other we have seen it in Iraq they tried to remove Sadam according to them he was a treat to western interest particularly US interest, they tried using Ahmed Chalabi the Shia politician but he double crossed them and channeled US secret intelligence back to the Ayatollahs in Tehran. Classified Hezbollah cannot give into western demands aslong as Israel keeps on pushing with in Sovereign Lebanese territories,when ever it wants and Israel occupation of the Golan heights in Syria makes it impossible for Syria alawi regime to normalize relations with Israel. Shia particularly led by the Imams of Iran could easily give into the demands of the west but they choose to protect their honer. There is to much at stake for the Shia it will take new leaders with new visions to bring the shia and the suni closer together, as it currently stands the Saudis want Iran to be bombed which is a problem for the entire region, because the Saudis feel that they are being undermined in the middle east.

[Khadafi]

What's sad in this imperial game is the loss of Egypt with it's former glory within the Arab world. How dwarfed they have become since Nassers time.

[DoctorKenney]

Khadafi;987625 wrote:

What's sad in this imperial game is the loss of Egypt with it's former glory within the Arab world. How dwarfed they have become since Nassers time.

Since Nassers time? You mean when the Israelis single-handedly defeated the Egyptians, Syrians and the Jordanians in SIX DAYS back in 1967? What former glory? The Israelis humiliated the Arabs repeatedly for the past several decades, and it's painful to watch.

 

I firmly believe that the reason why the Egyptians and the rest of the Arabs are in the state they're in.....is because they turned away from their religion and they sought to establish secular states, burying Islam so as to make it irrelevant. You've seen them establish their secular political parties (such as the infamous Ba'ath Party of Iraq and Syria) and look at what these policies have achieved in the region! Nothing but instability, poor economic performance, wars and the like.

 

Men such as Gamal Abdel Nasser, Anwar Sadat, Muammar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Hafez Assad, Hosni Mubarak, Yasser Arafat were all secular Arabs who have achieved nothing noteworthy for their people. Their nations are nothing like Iran and can't even be compared to them. Countries like Egypt are in absolute poverty where the GDP per capita is something like $3000 per year (which is pathetic) and there is nothing good which these leaders have achieved.

 

The Arab nations of today are nothing like the Arabs of 1000 years ago. The Arab nations today are not respected by anyone, they don't produce anything and they have little power. Maybe they can finally get a much needed wake-up call.

[Haatu]

Let me ask you guys a question, has there been a major confrontation between the West and the shiahs in history?

 

I'm not surprised with this deal at all. The real enemies for them are the sunnis afterall.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Doctor Kenney ,the sad part is Arabs think they actually won in 1973 war they were equally humiliated than to, they had some early strides but they were beaten back again. The Egyptians are now on the air as superior as the Israelis they posses enough military arsenal for the air brand new F16 mostly us defense aid. Economically the Egyptians are regressing because there is no reform. The Iranians are creative in the cultural sense they're moving forward they capitalize on moments such as today's even their imamite rule is pretty impressive the way power is distributed in their Islamic republic.only 11 percent of the iranians are unemployed , the iranians are moving forward whether its in technology or political its seems their way of politicking is finally paying off.

[DoctorKenney]

It's strange how the Iranians have a superior economy than the Arabs, even with these crippling economic sanctions. The Arabs really do have a lot to learn.

 

Nowadays, they would rather smoke shisha and watch a FIFA Soccer game than actually get up and start building their countries. They don't produce anything at all.

 

Just look at this short video. This Sheikh is blasting and criticizing the people for why the Arab countries are so weak. It's painful to watch:

 

 

 

This video summarizes some of the reasons why the Arabs are so weak nowadays.

[Haatu]

DoctorKenney;987659 wrote:

It's strange how the Iranians have a superior economy than the Arabs, even with these crippling economic sanctions. The Arabs really do have a lot to learn.

 

Nowadays, they would rather smoke shisha and watch a FIFA Soccer game than actually get up and start building their countries. They don't produce

anything

at all.

 

Just look at this short video. This Sheikh is

blasting and criticizing

the people for why the Arab countries are so weak. It's painful to watch:

 

 

 

This video summarizes some of the reasons why the Arabs are so weak nowadays.

Have you ever been to the Arab countries or spoken to someone from there? Those guys don't work at all. They bob into work around 10 then leave at lunchtime and don't return. No surprise the Iranians have a bigger economy, they at least work. I never seen a people as lazy and with a worse work ethic as the Arabs. These guys don't work at all.

[Alpha Blondy]

the loser here is Iran. they have 'allegedly' given up their nuclear stockpile. disappointing, really.

[DoctorKenney]

Haatu;987664 wrote:

Have you ever been to the Arab countries or spoken to someone from there? Those guys don't work at all. They bob into work around 10 then leave at lunchtime and don't return. No surprise the Iranians have a bigger economy, they at least work. I never seen a people as lazy and with a worse work ethic as the Arabs. These guys don't work at all.

I remember going to a few of the Arab countries, and you see nothing but thousands of Arabs sitting down in cafes, smoking on shisha pipes, watching soccer games, reading magazines and gossiping!

 

These people don't work at all! And they wonder why their countries aren't doing well, they wonder why their countries don't manufacture anything and they're not respected. It's just terrible when you think about it. And the same goes for a lot of the Muslims in India and Bangladesh!

 

It's our own fault why we're in the predicament we're in. The Germans work their butts off, so do the Japanese. And look how powerful and prosperous these countries are. Imagine if we were the same way.

[Haatu]

DoctorKenney;987674 wrote:

I remember going to a few of the Arab countries, and you see nothing but thousands of Arabs sitting down in cafes, smoking on shisha pipes, watching soccer games, reading magazines and gossiping!

 

These people don't work at all! And they wonder why their countries aren't doing well, they wonder why their countries don't manufacture anything and they're not respected. It's just terrible when you think about it. And the same goes for a lot of the Muslims in India and Bangladesh!

 

It's our own fault why we're in the predicament we're in. The

Germans

work their butts off, so do the Japanese. And look how powerful and prosperous these countries are. Imagine if we were the same way.

Somalis are a hardworking people if you actually think about it. How many Somalis do you see in the West working menial jobs day in day out? We just need to replicate that hardworking nature back home.

[DoctorKenney]

I meant collectively, all 1.5 billion of us. I didn't mean Somalis.

 

Yes, I've seen many hard-working Somalis. And we have a much stronger work ethic than many communities. We're also a very entrepreneurial people as well.

[Hawdian]

Hoorta shakadan intaad inu billaween hadan naheey somali qof kale amba daal kale fartaa ma ku fiqi karna . Haa mise mayaa.

[Khayr]

The Iranians are level headed negotiators. They needed to make some concessions to gain some things.

 

You know the main reason that embargos came against them is

because they are an Islamic threat to Israel. No one cares what sect you are. The كفار could care less about your "عقيد".