Homunculus Posted November 21, 2013 Police in Somalia have arrested a 19-year-old alleged rape victim and a journalist who interviewed her about the attack, a government official told Al Jazeera. Both the victim and Mohamed Bashir, a reporter for Radio Shabelle, were arrested on Wednesday for defamation, according to government spokesman Abdirahman Omar Osman. The owner of Radio Shabelle, Abdi Malik Yusuf, was also arrested, but has been released on “medical grounds,” according to the spokesman. Aljaeera Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nin-Yaaban Posted November 21, 2013 Yea, arrest her. She probably brought it upon herself right. How do they expect future rape victims to come forward when they are being thrown in jail for speaking out? I.diots We need to go back to the day's of just offing people who are accused of certain crimes....Rape being one of 'em. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted November 21, 2013 Again? :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted November 21, 2013 Safferz;987033 wrote: Again? :mad: Why so angry? Perhaps it was a legitimate arrest. Are the Somali police not capable of proper due diligence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorKenney Posted November 21, 2013 ^^You and I know both know that the Somali Police (most of them) are nothing more than thugs in uniform. Man I thought the Kenyan Police were bad, but the Somali cops take it to a whole another level. This type of stuff shouldn't surprise any of us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted November 21, 2013 ^^What makes them 'thugs'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted November 21, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;987034 wrote: Why so angry? Perhaps it was a legitimate arrest. Are the Somali police not capable of proper due diligence? Naga daa SP, I hope you're being sarcastic. How could this possibly be a legitimate arrest? Not only is this a terrible trend for women's rights in Somalia because of how the government has been responding to victims of sexual violence, but also for freedom of the press in the country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted November 21, 2013 Maba isku xishoodaan. How on earth do they justify arresting the poor women. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted November 21, 2013 ^^ Well Haatu if such accusations are true, and thereby she lied of such rape publicaly, does that not warrant an arrest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted November 21, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;987041 wrote: ^^ Well Haatu if such accusations are true, and thereby she lied of such rape publicaly, does that not warrant an arrest? Knowing the society we come from where rape victims are stigmatized, why would she ever consider doing that and risk ruining her social status? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted November 21, 2013 ^ Haatu, circumstances at times can prevail over 'social status'. For instance, many cases of rape, not to undermine the legitimate victims, are often told by refugees in efforts of resettlement. Not to mention, other reasons like 'delegitimizing' the government, compensation of sorts, ect. Safferz;987038 wrote: Naga daa SP, I hope you're being sarcastic. How could this possibly be a legitimate arrest? Not only is this a terrible trend for women's rights in Somalia because of how the government has been responding to victims of sexual violence, but also for freedom of the press in the country. Well Saffy, you have to look at the nuances of the story. Even Al-Jazeera hints at a few subtleties. Snippets of the article: "During the interview, which has been posted on YouTube, the victim alleges that she was attacked by another journalist working for state-owned radio station, Radio Mogadishu. The victim said during the interview that she was raped at gunpoint in Mogadishu and names her alleged attacker" “She admitted to have been pressured to make the video by [bashir],” Omar Osman [Employee of Radio Shabelle] said, adding that police have not arrested the man accused of the rape. Last month government security forces raided Radio Shabelle arresting all journalists at the station forcing it to shut down. All I am saying is I can play the blame game too.. Fitzgerald said "reserving judgement is a matter of infinite hope." Well at least folks shouldn't be quick to make judgement from their electronic devices, when in fact they are very detached from such scene. But such inclinations are expected given our relationship with government over the few years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted November 21, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;987050 wrote: ^ Haatu, circumstances at times can prevail over 'social status'. For instance, many cases of rape, not to undermine the legitimate victims, are often told by refugees in efforts of resettlement. Not to mention, other reasons like 'delegitimizing' the government, compensation of sorts, ect. Well Saffy, you have to look at the nuances of the story. Even Al-Jazeera hints at a few subtleties. Snippets of the article: "During the interview, which has been posted on YouTube, the victim alleges that she was attacked by another journalist working for state-owned radio station, Radio Mogadishu . The victim said during the interview that she was raped at gunpoint in Mogadishu and names her alleged attacker" “She admitted to have been pressured to make the video by [bashir],” Omar Osman [Employee of Radio Shabelle] said, adding that police have not arrested the man accused of the rape. Last month government security forces raided Radio Shabelle arresting all journalists at the station forcing it to shut down. All I am saying is I can play the blame game too.. Fitzgerald said "reserving judgement is a matter of infinite hope." Well at least folks shouldn't be quick to make judgement from their electronic devices, when in fact they are very detached from such scene. But such inclinations are expected given our relationship with government over the few years. Cabdiraxmaan Cumar Cismaan (Yariisoow) is afhayeenka madaxweynaha, not an employee of Shabeelle. He is the one alleging the victim is pressured by warbaahinta Shabeelle. So Cumar Cismaan (Omar Osman) is not a worker of Shabeelle as you mistakenly quoted above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted November 21, 2013 ^^ Oh didn't notice that comma. Well, that doesn't change what i meant. "bashir" is the one who pressured her, an employee of Shabeelle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted November 21, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;987050 wrote: ^ Haatu, circumstances at times can prevail over 'social status'. For instance, many cases of rape, not to undermine the legitimate victims, are often told by refugees in efforts of resettlement. Not to mention, other reasons like 'delegitimizing' the government, compensation of sorts, ect. Well Saffy, you have to look at the nuances of the story. Even Al-Jazeera hints at a few subtleties. Snippets of the article: "During the interview, which has been posted on YouTube, the victim alleges that she was attacked by another journalist working for state-owned radio station, Radio Mogadishu . The victim said during the interview that she was raped at gunpoint in Mogadishu and names her alleged attacker" “She admitted to have been pressured to make the video by [bashir],” Omar Osman [Employee of Radio Shabelle] said, adding that police have not arrested the man accused of the rape. Last month government security forces raided Radio Shabelle arresting all journalists at the station forcing it to shut down. All I am saying is I can play the blame game too.. Fitzgerald said "reserving judgement is a matter of infinite hope." Well at least folks shouldn't be quick to make judgement from their electronic devices, when in fact they are very detached from such scene. But such inclinations are expected given our relationship with government over the few years. SomaliPhilosopher;987055 wrote: ^^ Oh didn't notice that comma. Well, that doesn't change what i meant. "bashir" is the one who pressured her, an employee of Shabeelle. How do you know that? Because a government afhayeen said so? You take as face value whatever an afhayeen of government utters or alleges? Kamoon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted November 21, 2013 DoctorKenney;987035 wrote: ^^You and I know both know that the Somali Police (most of them) are nothing more than thugs in uniform. Man I thought the Kenyan Police were bad, but the Somali cops take it to a whole another level. This type of stuff shouldn't surprise any of us you needn't accuse them of being corrupt and thuggish. the burden of prove lies with the women who've made such allegations their bread and butter. 4 witness, somaha? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites