Contradicting news, Shabab is defeaten yet Kenya needs reinforcements???

[Mad_Mullah]

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Alshabaab is far from defeated they lost large swats of territory but they are smaller in numbers and territory but they are deadly and still can carry outside attacks inside Somalia and beyond. Ahmed Godane reformed Alshabaab to a smaller and cohesive entity and now they remain one of the greatest threats in East Africa.

[Tallaabo]

Alshabaab is now just a Trojan horse used by the African tyrants to get their mercenaries into Somalia so that whilst the occupiers' salaries are paid by the West, the foreign tyrants also get the benefit of colonising and dominating the Somali people.

[DoctorKenney]

But then Al-Shabaab shot themselves in the foot in September, when they attacked that Shopping Mall in Kenya. This was worldwide news and reinforced the fact that Shabaab is a serious threat.

 

There's no way that the world would allow Shabaab to control Somalia. Not after that stunt in Nairobi. So the Americans, Europeans, Chinese, Japanese etc. are gonna pour in billions of dollars to make sure that Shabaab never gains a stronghold in Somalia. If that means recruiting 30 000 more troops or whatever, then so be it. African Mercenaries are cheap by Western standards anyways, and hiring them to occupy all of Somalia shouldn't cost too much.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Doctor Kenney shabaab is trying the same tactics of Taliban in 2005 Taliban freed themselves from muhajurun Alqaeda affiliates and became a tight control entity and exhausted NATO and forced the great US to the negotiations table to deal with the Taliban. Alshabaab wants to exhaust Amisom, Alshabaab is a threat to Kenya but Alshabab is not a direct threat to Western interests Like Alqaeda and taliban were.

[DoctorKenney]

Xaaji Xunjuf;986480 wrote:

Doctor Kenney shabaab is trying the same tactics of Taliban in 2005 Taliban freed themselves from muhajurun Alqaeda affiliates and became a tight control entity and exhausted NATO and forced the great US to the negotiations table to deal with the Taliban. Alshabaab wants to exhaust Amisom, Alshabaab is a threat to Kenya but Alshabab is not a direct threat to Western interests Like Alqaeda and taliban were.

But the Americans have never brought Al Qaeda to the table. And Al Shabaab is a direct affiliate of Al Qaeda. It's the same thing.

 

You can't compare the Taliban and Shabaab because the Taliban have more local interests (controlling Afghanistan) and aren't focused so much on bombing foreign countries in Europe/America/parts of Asia. Shabaab on the other hand, directly threatens countries like the U.K. and the United States, and they make it clear that they're in a state of war with them.

 

You can manage the Taliban. You can't manage Al Shabaab. Even the Islamic Courts of 2006 were a much better alternative and could have been brought to the negotiating table.

[magicbird]

"And they planned and Allah (also) planned, and Allah is the best of planners".

[Gar_maqaate]

The reason why Kenya wants to increase its troops in somalia has never to do it with al shaabab. Kenya is In somalia for the some reason as all the other African countries In somalia: For MONEY, pure and simple. Somalia is a nice little earner for the mercenaries especially poor Africans. The average kenya infantry soldier in Kenya earns about 200 dollars a month. However, an AMISON soldiers

are paid 1028 dollars a month. Kenya has 4660 soldiers in somalia, that earns Kenya 57,485, 760 million dollars a year. Hefty medical insurances and pensions for its soldiers. Plus especialized equipments like armoured cars, tanks and helicopter. Kenya even tried to gets its navy on AMISON's pay rolll and it went as far claiming reimbursement for damages to its navy hardware during its Initial invasion of somalia. Not being one to miss out on a pay day Ethiopia is in process of adding its force on the payroll. Jabuuti is already enjoying its share of the cake and pretty soon the entire East African forces will in somalia whilst the myopic somalis indulge in their petty politics. Just imagine if somali soldiers were being paid 1028 dollar a month, somalia would be pacified in a month.

[DoctorKenney]

Saaxib, I doubt that if Somali soldiers were being paid 1028 dollars a month, it would change anything.

 

We're not even capable of paying our own troops. Most of the money that's allocated towards our Army "mysteriously" disappears into the pockets of corrupt politicians and generals. There's no way in hell that a Somali soldier would ACTUALLY be paid that kind of money.

 

We've become so unbelievably corrupt that our own politicians worry about the size of their bank accounts instead of the security and well-being of their nation.

 

And Somalia will forever be a wretched nation unless we get rid of these lowlifes from politics