Mooge Posted October 29, 2013 Ma faroole mise cabdiweli. meetings, meetings, meeting, more meeting, fadhikudirir is packed with hot debates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walaalkis Posted October 29, 2013 These fadhi kudirirka Maxey sameyaan for living ? For one to waste time on Somali politics is equivalent to driving backwards in busy highway. At the end,you will have a collision... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted October 29, 2013 walaakiis, who do you want to lead puntland? if i was holding a gun to your head and i told you to ignore your HAG membership for one minute, who would you vote for labada nin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawdian Posted October 29, 2013 Well let both of them and the rest compete in a free and fair election one man one vote. But will Faroole allow that , he is acting like an arab emir owning the place . Also shouldnt Puntland work with the HAG down south or is puntland a diff .country and ifso on what historical bases . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 29, 2013 Oodweyne. How much of your argument is what you desire vs. what actually is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baashi Posted October 29, 2013 Faroole should stay at the helm provided he wins fair and square. I for one root for the fingerless man. To change horse at this crucial hour may put the state at disadvantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 30, 2013 No better and more pronounced endorsement for Faroole than a separatist's expressed opposition against him. As always Oodweyne is clueless on Puntland politics ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted October 30, 2013 Faroole has no chance of winning this. His main strategy is for the Isims to endorse Some nabadoons from SOOL to handpick The SOOL MPs as the real Garaado have vowed not to sign off any MPs for Puntland parliament. That's why he has been harassing the Isims not to hold any meeting in Qardho but instead his Garaad and main supporter Garaase has announced a rival Isim meeting which is to be held in Garowe. The main agenda on table is to talk about the thorny issue of SOOL MPs and what should be done about them if ultimately the Garaads don't sign off their MPs. Other than that and the fact that he relies heavily on some Sanaag MPs through Ilkajiir, who his support in his region has dwindled Faroole has no real hope of coming back. Most of the regions can't wait to see the back of him. That said, it's ex[expected this time around it will not be a two sided saga rather we will see votes going to different personalities with almost similar number of votes. It might come down to a lot of haggling in the third round to give a clear winner. It will be very interesting one to watch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 30, 2013 Oodweyne, One would not like the scene of a grown up man embarrassing himself by lecturing about a subject he does not know. For me though it is amusing to see the ignorance at work in you The reason Faroole is despised in Mogadishu and Hargeysa is not a reflection of good will from those corners to Puntland community. It is precisely because Faroole, the federalist from the East, has taken your queen and gunning for your king in the chess parlance where shaping Somalia's future is concern. Seldom does irrelevant man (as you claim Faroole is) get the courtesy Mr. Faroole gets in world arenas. The reason is simple , and can be summarized in three : 1. He is the push behind the federalism arrangement, and has the leverage 2. He leads a significant region that holds Somalia together symbolically 3. National seat at this time does not appeal to him, hence others have few, if any, leverage on him About the election, we shall watch and see. Suffice to say, so far, Faroole has no worthy contender in the ring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 30, 2013 Speaking of Uncle Sam and how it views Somalia's political reality, a fact check is in order Please remind the gallery why Puntland features quite prominently in US Secretary's remarks . In you parallel universe, Puntland has been long eliminated from the political game in Somalia . Here you may want to consult with Mintid Farayar (aka Macno Yare) for he has a knack for all things Puntland On election, I say again lets see and watch. I am sure you will be disappointed again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted October 30, 2013 Faroole has changed Puntland into Faroole Inc, even the Garoweans are suprised at his qaroobokiil, but he is also a proven, solid leader that can keep the state together. C/weli is a technician that has many successes from the Roadmap period but is he politically savy enough to be able to contain the competing interests of the Unholy Trinity? My money is on seedigay Faroole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 30, 2013 Oodweyne. In your hasty to declare Puntland nonentity and by extension the larger family, you have ignored some glaring facts that are worth considering. Firstly, there is no elite (there is actually no real elite in anywhere in Somali lands contrary to what we convince ourselves) in Mogadishu with the political acumen to master a strategy that could reduce Puntland or matter any other regional authority including Somaliland to periphery in terms of influence. If there is such elite, please enlighten us. Secondly, you are overplaying how much the international community can do ( Ironically you discount their influence when it comes to Somaliland). There are obstacles least of which is the pledge for new deal. It is one thing to promise something, it is another thing to deliver on those promises as history shows. The cost of financing the SFGis very high, the last thing IC wants to do is corner regions of Somalia that has semblance of normalcy. This is specially true considering the SFG have no legs to stand and it has not the capacity to build institutions including viable defense force. Furthermore, AMISOM has became corrupt to the core as shown by sackings of Ugandan officers by Museveni. The IC is continuing with dual-track despite their pronounced support for Mogadishu. Today, there was a delegation from EU and the World Bank in Garowe discussing the New Deal. Thirdly, when it comes to Jubba issue, people forget one crucial aspect. While Madoobe agreed to come under SFG, it is worthy noting that he was not chosen by them. I don't see the SFG installing their man.They had to make peace with the idea of not choosing who runs Kismayo and by the extension the lucrative seaport. And there is the Kenyan factor and in particular KDF which realized they could make money in Kismayo. The agreement in Addis had unintended consequences, it has galvanized reer Bay/Bakool who are now in the process of setting up their own state. The Speaker has essentially endorsed the initiative by the Malaaqis during his last visit there. It will be very unwise and ineffective for SFG to antagonize another community. Fourthly, "Pashtuns" much like D-Block are not unit that could be united under a common goal. The idea of State from Mudug to the Shabelle is rather appealing, but it's highly unlikely. The residents of Hiiraan who suffered under Osman Atto and reer Mudug will not accept union with Galgaduud and Mudug. I will be very surprised if the internal divisions within the "Pashtuns" and for that D-block can be overcome. SFG agreed to the recent Nairobi meeting, but in the process they managed to piss off ASWH, the only force that ever defeated AS in battle. Your predictions will come true the day the SFG can financially supports itself (an actual tax base) and have viable forces along other institutions, till such day, we are merely entertaining desires and passing them as possible outcomes. I forget to add that the President's alleged connection to Islamists and his debt to those who bought him the presidency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted October 31, 2013 On Puntland Election, Puntland Parliament's term has expired. http://puntlandi.com/xildhibaanada-puntland-iyo-madaxweyne-faroole-oo-is-macasalaameeyey-baarlamaankii-oo-lakala-dire/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites