Mad_Mullah Posted October 19, 2013 Safferz;982032 wrote: That's an excerpt from Richard Burton, isn't it? He was in Somalia in 1856 or so, before the partition of Africa and the establishment of British colonies in East Africa. You're conflating a lot of things here, and Burton's 19th century racist gaze on Somalis isn't any indication of what Somalis thought of themselves or what their relationship to the British was, because at the time of writing there was no relationship. Secondly, regardless of what Brits observed about Somalis, under the colonial state in Somaliland/Somalia, they were classified as "natives" like all other Africans in British colonies were. Somalis in other parts of British East Africa like Kenya and Tanganyika were the ones to organize for Asian status. Read the whole thing: http://archive.org/stream/jstor-1798086/1798086_djvu.txt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 19, 2013 Mad_Mullah;982027 wrote: inferior This here is the right definition of inferiority. You're bound to serve Ethiopian/Kenyan overlords whether it is in the Ocaden desert Ethiopia or Kenya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted October 19, 2013 Saalax;982051 wrote: Why does it matter what some obscure person might have said when there are many other reliable sources? Do you think we will fall in line and cry for the deceased papa Melez (like Iley your cousin) did Lol. You're a joke. Somaliland does not a validating from outsiders, its superiority over many others Somalis is already in display. The most peaceful, the most democratic , the most richest(judging by state revenue) Somali state when you exclude the half Anfar Djibouti. That is why Somalia states including this Puntland you are trying to advertise like to mimic Somaliland. First of all Iley is a traitor and nobody sees him as a representative, mention his name and many will spit at it, unlike Silanyo and co. who arrested old OG WOMEN and handed them over to Ethiopian government knowing that they will be tortured, yet you clap for them. Secondly, Japanese people don't have to come here and mention that they are superior, because we all know, look at their economy, education, media, military etc. they don't need to brag. The people that need to brag like yourself, are unsure whether they're better or not so they feel the need to keep repeating it (without proof) to make a point. I feel sorry for you to be honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 19, 2013 Mad_Mullah;982055 wrote: First of all Iley is a traitor and nobody sees him as a representative False. You might convince that somebody who is clueless about the area but not me. Thousands of your kins support him in Ethiopia, even when Melez died and Iley was saying dhamaan Meles baanu nahay thousands of your kinds were clapping for him. So never again speak about inferiority, lets not even forget building a monument for the man who massacred thousands of the Ocaden people, building a gold monument for him in Jigjiga. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I don't have to improve my superiority to anyone, many Somalians trying to mimic Somaliland in democracy, peace and other fields is enough . " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted October 19, 2013 Saalax;982058 wrote: False. You might convince that somebody who is clueless about the area but not me. Thousands of your kins support him in Ethiopia, even when Melez died and Iley was saying dhamaan Meles baanu nahay thousands of your kinds were clapping for him. So never again speak about inferiority, lets not even forget building a monument for the man who massacred thousands of the Ocaden people, building a gold monument for him in Jigjiga. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Doqonkan arak, who's talking about inferiority? YOU are the one calling others inferior and using your "We're Asians" as proof. At least the people in Ocadenia working for Ethiopia makes sense, just like Landers worked for British and Xamaris worked for Italians. What doesn't make sense is the government of a "sovereign" nation working for Ethiopia. HARGEISA-Somaliland security forces nabbed, extradited and handed over to Ethiopia a fugitive female ONLF member that sneaked into Somaliland. The woman resided in Zone 5 village that lies in east of Hargeisa, Somaliland capital city in which she thought will be a safe haven. Once she learned that Somaliland security forces are behind her heels, she moved into Goljano and worked as a maid for family. Later Somaliland police found, handcuffed and detained her in Hargeisa’s main police station. Somaliland handed over wanted ONLF members who infiltrated into Somaliland to Ethiopia on numerous occasions. The ONLF has been battling Ethiopian government for independence for the last two decades. Somaliland and Ethiopia have closer ties on cooperating on areas of security and trade. Ethiopia and the ONLF tried to reach an agreement but all attempts to find a lasting solution to the two decade gorilla war ended in vain. Shemale army that can give women to be raped and tortured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted October 19, 2013 Saalax;982058 wrote: " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> lol I love this video so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted October 19, 2013 You have seen it somewhere before miya? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted October 19, 2013 I'm against HAG domination, but Mogadishu will always remain the capital and Somalia will always be Somalia with even NFD, Ocadenia and Djibouti being part of it, inshallah one day it will happen. THIS IS THE FUTURE, HATE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted October 19, 2013 SomaliPhilosopher;981970 wrote: And do you realize the Somalilanders inability to productively cooperate with the dar0d given tribal animosity has delayed achieving asiatic status for decades until it was useless and had no benefits, not to metion economically unsound. Plus, when post WW2 Somali nationalism emerged which was more ambitious and sought complete liberation rather than 'elevated status' under a colonial administration, it was unsupported by a faction of the somalilanders (the faction you would probably belong to), remnants of the "asiatic" status campaigners. Instead they continued in their miniscule pursuits under their tribal banner Nonsense. The H@rti Somalilanders were united with the durriyad in the pursuit of 'Asiatic Status'. D-block people have an obsession with revisionist history ma is tidhi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted October 19, 2013 Wadani;982082 wrote: Nonsense. The H@rti Somalilanders were united with the durriyad in the pursuit of 'Asiatic Status'. D-block people have an obsession with revisionist history ma is tidhi. Tbh, that could be true, I've never heard of this Asiatic status, but there's only person on this forum bragging about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawdian Posted October 19, 2013 Mad_Mullah;981966 wrote: I wouldn't say Landers are smarter, it's just that they have more ambition and vision than the southerners. Waarya Sayeed Ileen Marmar baa sheegta Ruunta. Baal iska kuu waad. Sallax And Wadani and Rest Dee Soogale SMPC blog. thanx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted October 20, 2013 Sad topic wallaahi! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted October 20, 2013 Wadani;982082 wrote: Nonsense. The H@rti Somalilanders were united with the durriyad in the pursuit of 'Asiatic Status'. D-block people have an obsession with revisionist history ma is tidhi. utterly false.. do note this was shortly after sayidka so there was already tension between the two groups.. instead of working together these guys were accusing each other of being 'spies'.When the is@q tried to protest an appointment of a new governor in british SL, in pursuit of their quest, the h@rti already sent a congratulatory letter. talk about united huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted October 20, 2013 SP is just regurgitating E.R Turton of University of Zambia paper on I-clan poll tax agitation in Kenya. Nothing new.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliPhilosopher Posted October 20, 2013 Indeed I am Stoic... I find it provides proper context to the likes of Saalax. does it not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites