Classified Posted October 20, 2013 Wadani;982099 wrote: I only asked to confirm whether u mentioning she is from Hargaysa was an innocent obersvation or not...and clearly it wasn't since u don't condone what she did. Waxaad tahay maangaab. What's the point of condoning what she did. I couldn't careless. What does maangaab mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamelia Posted October 20, 2013 Apophis;981804 wrote: Self hating westernised xalimos continue to sink lower and lower. No surprises here. **********EDITED**************** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odey Posted October 20, 2013 Nin-Yaaban;981718 wrote: China has a surplus of men (100 million at last count) than women. And this is due to the One Child policy and the sex selective abortion they have over in their country. This shouldn't surprise anyone, since a lot of Chinese men are also marrying other Africans in Africa. As for Somalis + Chinese, i say that's a good thing. Let 'em do it, who cares. Ilahay baa isku calfay. If this guy is a Muslim then I don't care either, but we all know over 98% if not more of the chinese population are non Muslim therefore this makes the whole marriage null and void!, unless of course the girl in question is no longer a muslim?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted October 20, 2013 I once watched this show and the white american dude was trying to convert so that he could just please the non religious arab girl's parents. It was just a temp. condition that he wanted to meet quickly and in time for their wet and wild wedding. The deen protects lineage and that is something that is deemed very important. Since it is the man that carries that line, a women can not marry a non muslim. For unlike Judiasm, you inherit the deen of the father and not the mother. A women that marries a non muslim would be a fasiqa - at the very least. On a point of wisdom - when we marry, we marry into that family. One family on to another family. Therefor; having commonalities and similarities in ethno- culture and deen are very important. All too often, the newly interracial couple (with one covert spouse) experience alienation from their inlaws because of the nuances in cultural differences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted October 20, 2013 ^^ you don't inherit religion from anyone and certainly not your father, in fact that's one aspect of traditional Arab religion that Islam clearly forbids. Don't try and invent religious justification for ethnocentrism and bigotry, Prophet Muhammad himself was married to women of different ethnic backgrounds (ie. a Jewish woman, an Egyptian Copt) and even encouraged interracial marriages (ie. he asked his cousin Zaynab to marry Zaid ibn Haritha). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classified Posted October 20, 2013 Safferz;982262 wrote: ^^ you don't inherit religion from anyone and certainly not your father, in fact that's one aspect of traditional Arab religion that Islam clearly forbids. Don't try and invent religious justification for ethnocentrism and bigotry, Prophet Muhammad himself was married to women of different ethnic backgrounds (ie. a Jewish woman, an Egyptian Copt) and even encouraged interracial marriages (ie. he asked his cousin Zaynab to marry Zaid ibn Haritha). Can a Muslim woman marry a Non-Muslim man? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted October 20, 2013 Classified;982264 wrote: Can a Muslim woman marry a Non-Muslim man? Of course they *can,* whether they *should* is something that's been up for debate for centuries and positions vary amongst scholars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classified Posted October 20, 2013 Safferz;982268 wrote: Of course they *can,* whether they *should* is something that's been up for debate for centuries and positions vary amongst scholars. Of course they can, as it's their choice to do as they please; but the 'can' I asked refers to from Islamic perspective. Does Islam allow Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men? Also, if you don't mind, what is your position on the matter Islamically? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haatu Posted October 20, 2013 Islamically a women cannot marry a non-muslim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classified Posted October 20, 2013 Haatu;982273 wrote: Islamically a women cannot marry a non-muslim. I didn't ask you. But, thank for your input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted October 20, 2013 Classified;982270 wrote: Of course they can, as it's their choice to do as they please; but the 'can' I asked refers to from Islamic perspective. Does Islam allow Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men? Also, if you don't mind, what is your position on the matter Islamically? I answered your question, there is no such thing as "the Islamic perspective" because there is no one perspective for a matter that's been debated over centuries and has no scholarly consensus. Someone like Hassan al-Turabi has said it's permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian or Jew. I don't care either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classified Posted October 20, 2013 Safferz;982284 wrote: I answered your question, there is no such thing as "the Islamic perspective" because there is no one perspective for a matter that's been debated over centuries and has no scholarly consensus. Someone like Hassan al-Turabi has said it's permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian or Jew. I don't care either way. Interesting. So, the Ahlu Kitab position goes for both genders and isn't exclusive to only men marrying from the "people of the book". Who's Hassan Al-Turabi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted October 20, 2013 Classified;982288 wrote: Who's Hassan Al-Turabi? Turabi a Sudanese politician. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classified Posted October 20, 2013 Mooge;982292 wrote: Turabi a Sudanese politician. Did she just referred to a Sudanese politician as an Isamic scholar? *scratching his head* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Safferz Posted October 20, 2013 Classified;982288 wrote: Interesting. So, the Ahlu Kitab position goes for both genders and isn't exclusive to only men marrying from the "people of the book". Who's Hassan Al-Turabi? Like I said, there's no scholarly consensus so some may say it goes both ways, others say it does not. Hassan Al-Turabi is a well known Sudanese sheikh and political figure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites