GAROODI Posted September 27, 2013 Killinka Shanad is a shared region. I've travelled across it and reer borama, duriyada, hag, og etc all live there. It's not the domain of one sub clan. My own kinsman live across the reserve area that was once part of British somaliland. Dagaxbuur, aware, daroor, gashamo, harta sheick. If that region is to have any future all the Somalis have to work together. Onlf failed because it lacks inclusivity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluelicious Posted September 28, 2013 Hopefully next step will be independence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted September 28, 2013 GAROODI Don't worry those people will be in cooperated as part of Greater Somaliland in the future if things don't work out well in the Somali region or Ethiopia collapses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 28, 2013 Greater Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted September 28, 2013 Mad_Mullah;979782 wrote: Greater Somaliland You know in Ethiopian Somali war. The headquarters of the war was in hargaisa. The only two cities to ever get bombed from the air by Ethiopians was hargaisa and Borama. And the most vicious battalions in the war came from the north. If somaliland was an internationally recognised state I have no doubt it would be the power house of Africa within 20 years. Economically, politically and militarily. In terms of the reserve area. Ethiopia and somaliland have an open border policy. Reer borama, duriyada and even las canod folk who inhabit Ethiopia are also able to be somaliland nationals as wells. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 28, 2013 They are able to become Somaliland citizens because they are from the I-Tribe. Call it a power house is also laughable. A country of 3 million with no resources, no decent ports, airports, or middle class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 28, 2013 Look at Morocco, with their economy, tourism, import/export, military etc. and they're not even close to being a power house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted September 29, 2013 Greater Somaliland is more plausible than a sovereign state being called 0cadenia, sad but true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 29, 2013 Saalax;979807 wrote: Greater Somaliland is more plausible than a sovereign state being called 0cadenia, sad but true. LOL - no it's not. Because that would mean first Somaliland would need to get independence and 2. which is the hardest bit, a part of another country would need to join it which is unheard of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted September 29, 2013 Somaliland Is already a sovereign state with its own institution, army, government and effective control of its territory . It is only lacking de jure recognition but it is independent as much as Taiwan.An Ocadenia state on the other hand doesn't exist on the ground since it is under Ethiopian rule, other than few ONLF militia in the bush. You're on a lower level than when the SNM were in the bush, at least they fought good and liberated several towns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 29, 2013 At least our fighters are in Jannah after being killed by Habashi orthodox Christians, yours are burning in hell for killing Muslims so that they could go back to their original state of being a tribal enclave created by the British. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted September 29, 2013 It was rightful to fight off Siad Bare. Remember Siad Bare government had links to atheists and Marxism, there is even a video where he is saying he would pray to Jesus to get weapons from the west. There is no difference between that former toppled government and the Habesha who kill your people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 29, 2013 You're a good person Saalax. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted September 29, 2013 :D:D like the Mullah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAROODI Posted September 29, 2013 I don't see how somaliland can incorporate the reserve area back into somaliland. Another war is to much for the region what we need to focus on is improving the lives of the people of the somali region, Ethiopia and Somaliland. In reality the land is only technically under Ethiopia the people go back and fourth as they choose. Onlf has been a distaster for the og people, they cant fight, have no objective, no direction and in effect led their people to the slaughter. Said barre also created a lot of damage between somaliland and the somali region by trying to replace the permanent population of somaliland with the eople of the somali region. With that said, the only solution to the problem for the time being is for the people of the somali region to work together regardless of clan and create a unifying identity outside the onlf. To build a co-hesive state within a state. Somaliland should focus on securing a free trade agreement with Ethiopia. A lot of Goods come to Ethiopia via somaliland at present we are not allowed to trade on equal basis. Free trade and open access would mean access to 70 million land locked people who suck on the aid of Christien nations for hundreds of years. The two areas need each other somali region and somaliland and they could become very wealthy together if they play their cards right. I think xabashis are over rated. They say we were never colonised even though they were. The only reason why they were spared the same treatment as other African states and supported is because they were historically Christien and acted as a counter weight in a muslim region. Even till this day they get billions of dollars in aid to feed there people. I don't take xabashis seriously. But we no longer live in age where warfare is the solution. Economic power and military power can be built and used as leverage without war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites