Miyir Posted September 22, 2013 Che -Guevara;978821 wrote: Miyir. Let's diminish or deny the crimes committed by these countries. 'They were fighting Al-Shabab' is not a valid argument. You can't mourn the lives lost today while diminishing the suffering of the Somali caused by these countries. This is while saying what one rapist does is okay because other rapists commit the same crime. Somalis cause more deaths and rapes in one day then all these countries did years, alharam is the reason we have them in Somalia now and before.be Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted September 22, 2013 Apo. I already said they have became the menace and need to be eliminated, but that's not excuse to massacre innocent Somalis unless carpet-bombing Xamar or killing geeljires is just dandy. Miyir. Again, nobody denies Somalis did serious damage, but how does excuse what Ethiopians, Ugandans, and Kenyans did? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted September 22, 2013 Che -Guevara;978826 wrote: Miyir. Again, nobody denies Somalis did serious damage, but how does excuse what Ethiopians, Ugandans, and Kenyans did? be objective, you and I know why people are killed in war zone. tell me do you belief these countries kill intentionally innocent people in Somalia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted September 22, 2013 Yes, they do! Bombing an entire city, desecrating mosques, raping women, and massacring nomads! And in the case of Ethiopia, massacring its own Somali population! Mind you, AS wasn't even a problem when Ethiopia invaded the country to overthrow the courts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted September 22, 2013 Che -Guevara;978829 wrote: Yes, they do! Bombing an entire city, desecrating mosques, raping women, and massacring nomads! And in the case of Ethiopia, massacring its own Somali population! che stay on topic please, we can discuss the past or country politics or intentions. spreading alharam cult propaganda for recruiters and sympathizers is not an answer for what we are facing today or these armies are in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted September 22, 2013 Nagada ninyahow, how hard is it for you to admit these countries have blood on their hands? What happen today is horrific and inhumane but that does not absolve their countries of their crimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted September 22, 2013 It seems we have to many fascists on this forum. "Shouldn't we condemn the Mogadishu bombings and any crimes committed by Kenyans/Ethiopians?" "War you're Shabab, al-Qaeda, I'm calling the FBI on you waryaa! Saxib you worship Iblees. You're the reason why Somalia destroyed itself" Calm the F down. Keep the discussion flowing without accusing each other of A or B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted September 22, 2013 Maxaa that mall aan tagay, amaankeedana maxaa sidii garoon diyaaradeed camal loo adkeynaayee. Xataa in la isku sawiro gudaha iyo banaanka meeshaas lama ogaleen. Baabuurta hoostooda xataa waala baari jiray, dadka galaayana security wands ayaa lagu baari jiray. Soomaali badan ayaa tago meesha, more than Kiinyaatiga, except the employees of the mall. Dadka meeshaas tago waxee u badnaayeen caddaanka, Hindida, then Soomaalida. I won't be surprised if dadka dhintay Soomaali ku jiraan. Che, inaa i dhahday aan jeclahay oo aad tagtay meeshaan waagaa Nayroobi aan isla joognay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted September 22, 2013 already is a Soomaali casualty, an injured one. As I said, the dead Soomaali waaka buuxdaa because that mall Soomaali badan ayaa tagi jirtay. Xataa some of the private security men la dagaalamaayo kuwa meesha heysto waa Soomaali with a hand gun, as you can see from some of the media clips. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted September 22, 2013 Witness: "He is not from a Soomaaliya - he is not a Soomaali guy. He is a Carab guy." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uchi Posted September 22, 2013 Che has a valid point & we need to discuss this. Alshabab are winning the hearts of certain types of Somali's and we need to address why & confront it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted September 22, 2013 Suurta gal maahan intaad biyo dab saarto inaad qabow ka raadiso Kenya faraha kala bax soomaaliya oo ugaartiina ilaashada yaa laga waayay,dad aan danbi lahayn in la laayo ayadaa u sabab ah waayo ayaduba shacab bay laysay Soomaalida haday maqlaan qarax baa ka dhacay muqdisho dad badana waa ku dhintay si daciifnama ah bay u yiraahdaan AUN,kalmad kalna ma qoraan, nayroobi markay maqlaana oohin iyo duuf bay isku dari war umadii waa qalashay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted September 22, 2013 Ninkaan Soomaali u egyahay. Waa kuwii u horeeye meesha tagay. Teeda kale sida la sheegaayo wiilkii u horeeye meesha ku geeriyooday ayaa maanta la duugay. Soomaali uu ahaa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted September 22, 2013 Meeshaan waxee kusoo qorooyaan kuwii Barbaarta ahaa waa cajiib. Waa haddee iyaga yihiin. The writings seem like inay iyaga ahayn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maqane Posted September 22, 2013 Somali citizen among 59 killed in attack in Nairobi Mall Somali citizen was among 59 people killed in a terror attack at Westgate Shopping Centre in Nairobi’s Westland District, according to the Somali Embassy in Kenya.Somalia’s Ambassador to Kenya, Mohamed Ali Nur confirmed that Yasin Hersi was among the people dead during the attack.Late Yasin was working with Iida, women’s development organization based in Somalia’s capital Mogadishu.Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud sent his condolences to the families of the victims of the attack in Nairobi.“We in Somalia know only too well the human costs of violence like this, our prayers today are with our brothers and sisters in Kenya. We also send a strong message of solidarity with the Kenyan government, our valued partners in the campaign to bring peace to Somalia,” President Mohamud Said.“These heartless acts against defenseless civilians, including innocent children, are beyond the pale and cannot be tolerated. We stand shoulder to shoulder with Kenya in its time of grief for these lives lost and the many injured.”Kenya government said at least 170 people were wounded in the attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites