Woman's Got The Power: As Somali Economy Struggles, First Female Bank Governor Yussur Abrar Takes Th

[Haatu]

Hobbesian_Brute;978570 wrote:

..tan networka siin aanan qabanayn ba.

you know it

Fire your Somali teacher. I can't understand what you're trying to say

[Hobbesian_Brute]

its funny you say that, i could school you in somali

[Alpha Blondy]

Marksman;978497 wrote:

Really Haatu? How many women work at Dahabshiil for instance? How many women are district officers in Mogadishu? How come the quota of women in the government wasn't reached? How come women are more illiterate than men in Somalia? Etc. etc. There are more women in Somalia than men. Women are held back there.

 

The poorest and most backward of nations are always those that keep their women from reaching their potential. With this said, Somalia is making great strides in giving women a fair chance. Much more is to be done and this will make the recovery of Somalia even faster.

 

 

i've always been pro-women. that's not to say i believe in adopting human rights concepts, but for women, to re-evaluate their position in society. a woman must define her position....too often women are reliant on the 'man'. they seek validation from men - often changing their physical appearances to meet that standard. women must have their own sense of selves. their own benchmark with which to measure against their successes and failures.

 

Somali women are and have always been the backbone of 'our' society. this new phenomena of emancipation masks a deliberate attempt to change the discourse. too often many of our women buy into these false ideas. what we ought to do....... instead, is to offer our women folk more opportunities to participate in society, to allow them the freedom to voice their concerns, to express themselves, to be more proactive in achieving social change for their betterment. World Bank feminists who consistently complain about the lack of female representation in the workplace and who peddle this sort of nonsense........... by and large represent an engendered and bias viewpoint. why should Somali women be forced to see things through different lens, a lens so removed from her own experiences. unfortunately, there is a perception that all women are the same and suffer from the same injustices be it discrimination, sexual violence, etc. white women in their position of power have done more damage collectively to the women of the world.....and their opinion is no longer valid, i reckon.

 

people of the Global South, join me in condemning the West of its abuses and violation of their women's 'human rights'. they have commodified their women as objects of desire that perverted middle-aged men gratify from. they have destroyed the women's sense of self by making her compete with the a cocaine addled 'man', they have convinced their women to freeze their eggs. the West is experiencing a demographic decline. this is unnatural and indeed dangerous to their very survival. they just don't know it, yet. they have created wicked ideologies like feminism and political correctness to spread their subversive messages.

 

we can see the decadence of the west, the contradictions and the double standards. its rotting from within and very soon, a new world order will emerge, that will right the wrongs of the West. already, we can already see manifestation of this because their women are allowed to work.

[Haatu]

Hobbesian_Brute;978576 wrote:

its funny you say that, i could school you in somali

With that broken Somali even STOIC can whip you.

[Alpha Blondy]

Haatu;978581 wrote:

With that broken Somali even STOIC can whip you.

waat walaanthahay, abti.

[Maqane]

Marksman;978497 wrote:

There are more women in Somalia than men

. Women are held back there.

Abti, could you tell us a little bit about who held back women there!

Are you speaking from personal experience or what you've heard recently about Somalia (baa la yiri!).

 

No one held back women there, in the matter of fact where i lived (Mogadishu) between 90nineties till - 2007 women were the first to stand up, until Al-shabaab came to power and forced their ideology that they have exported from other countries. The only thing i know of some of religious extremists like Al-shabaab and some folks (minority of Somalis that adopted the same ideology) who believe women can't/ should not lead but do the house jobs. Somalis are more cultural and the thing is everything (religion - culture) is mixed up. Maybe you're confusing Somalia with saudi arabia/yemen because it's a Muslim populated country and that's why there is no hope for women.

 

 

 

Marksman;978497 wrote:

How many women work at Dahabshiil for instance?

Btw, Dahabshiil doesn't represent whole Somalia/Somalis so your excuse is not valid!

 

Marksman;978497 wrote:

How many women are district officers in Mogadishu? How come the quota of women in the government wasn't reached?

From what i have heard from folks back home, The death threats they receive from the extremist folks has something to do with that, their families would most likely advice their educated woman/girl not to become an officer for the sake of her security or her life being in danger!

 

Marksman;978497 wrote:

The poorest and most backward of nations are always those that keep their women from reaching their potential.

Backward on Human Rights but not the poorest.

 

 

Marksman;978497 wrote:

How come women are more illiterate than men in Somalia? Etc. etc..

Inaar, let me break it down for you, the situation in Somalia, specially in Mogadishu is different from what you think. This has nothing to do with the women being discriminated. Most Somali families back home can't afford to send their children to school because it's too expensive instead they would send their children (in early age till - their 19th birthday until that's when the child mostly becomes dugsi diid) full-time Quran lessons (aka Dugsi Quraan) more cheaper and and the only option that's popular among Somalis.

 

Guess what, when the child (female) leaves the Dugsi, the female gets prepared for household/ forced/arranged marriage so that the parents can benefit from the so called (Sooryo), simply by selling their daughter or she falls in love with a boy from a poor family. Some are arranged for a forced marriage and may end up in divorce and the lucky ones are hijacked by their poor loved ones ( Somali version of qudbasiro or taking the girl on masaafo to escape from the forced marriage).

 

The illiterate girl ends up with marriage and gets a children, if she is not a rich, the story repeats.. starts again from Dugsi and goes on...

 

As for the males from poor families, they start to think about Tahriib, go for Kirishbooynimo or some other options to support their families, the chance is bigger that the males will survive from being illiterate while the female takes care of her children and will probably not get a chance to learn.

[Maqane]

Btw, the Female genital mutilation part, that needs special attention, it's lack of government and proper education. If you ask some (somali) folks why 're they doing this to their daughters they would simply say because other people do (kind of dabdeeysi (copycat)) or our forefathers did it, so it became normal among the society and they 're not aware of it's consequences.

[Maqane]

Congratulations to Yussur Abrar, wish her all the best in helping/rebuilding her country

[Hobbesian_Brute]

the primary role of woman was gathering in the original hunter and gathering societies of our our forefathers. this idea of women sitting at home doing nothing is only specific to sand coons - for their own twisted sexual reasons, Somali women were/are integral part of the workforce in the miyi. your not impressing anyone adeer.

[Safferz]

Hobbesian_Brute;978639 wrote:

the primary role of woman was gathering in the original hunter and gathering societies of our our forefathers. this idea of women sitting at home doing nothing is only specific to sand coons - for their own twisted sexual reasons, Somali women were/are integral part of the workforce in the miyi. your not impressing anyone adeer.

The idea of women in the home is also very European. African women, on the other hand, have always had to work and their labour was and is essential for the household to survive.

[Tallaabo]

Alpha Blondy;978537 wrote:

^ wayooow,

 

these folks are emigrating back to Tanzania, Mozambique and along coastal areas, maha? there's a family reunification mashruuc, taking these folks back to their roots. very similar to Somalis in the west. they must decide where they belong.

 

check this vid.

 

The Somali Bantus were wronged by the ignorant Somali people. I hate the fact that the skinny, useless Somalis think they are more important than the Bantus when it is the Bantus who are actually more civilised, more hardworking, and more tolerant.

[Tallaabo]

Somali women are mostly self-employed but have little role in companies and government departments where the men are given preference. Sad but true.

[Hobbesian_Brute]

imagine if somalis were light skinned, they would the most racist people on this planet, nazis would be pale in comparison. leave alone bantus, just look at how they deal with so called untouchable clans. myself, i have always treated bantu somalis well and never denigrated them as a people.

[Bluelicious]

This is a good step forward 'm happy about that, hopefully many women will follow. Any man who's against women getting educated and getting top positions clearly is feeling intimidated and insecure about their success.

[Che -Guevara]

The time honored tradition of Somali bashing....

 

Every Somali is racist but me, every Somali is ignorant but me....